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no the whole heatsink wih the fans. and i dont have the ax200 yet, im getting it tomorrow.

 

Ah ok nightmare? Did you have an issue then? I must have missed that. Hope you get it sorted ASAP, but yeah if the heatsinks not going to be around until after Christmas, are they going to compensate you or replace the whole machine? If its unusable?

 

Yes, the cpu fan makes weird noise and cause higher temperature. Then another problem appeared last night in one of the charging socket which makes 1 charger unrecognized. Very bad luck

 

If someone can do me a favour and revive this post...


https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware/GPU-Throttling-Area-51m/m-p/7422671#M25148

Thanks!

 

It's time :3

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So we'll 9900ks isn't my fav cpu in here so far, it has this severe power limit throttle crap happening and I'm not to sure why, I do have both power adapters plugged in and all but I get pl2 and abunch of edp crap when I try to push it max watts it pulled was 130w my 9700k pulled 160w >< also the default turbo speeds for 1 core start at 4.9 and go as low as 4.6ghz on all 8 core with throttle stop default. maybe its because cpu isn't supported on microcode? And it's being crazy due to it? I may switch to a 9900k...Unless I can get help, I saw one 3d mark score of the KS with the 51m on timespy and it was a rather horrible 9100 points.. Compared to other 51m getting 12000 cpu score on 9900k any suggestions on what can be going on?

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Killer 1650x vs ax200

 

Have you tried undervolting? Maybe -100mV

 

When I undervolt it runs better, and dosent have the tdp crap happen but I just feel like I kinda am wasting $150 going to a cpu that should be 5ghz out of the box but instead runs like a 9700k in terms of clock speeds, and idk if the chip really is binned better, or if it's just a 9900k that can push higher. Which I guess in theory means better bin quality but still... The temp difference with undervolting and underclocking this cpu should be not much different than a 9900k @4.7-4.8ghz I wish I can go higher but if I do it just power limits all over. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9461594 that was my 3d mark and it feels so crappy for a 9900k variant. @4.8ghz

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4.8Ghz https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7167290
5.0 https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6633398

This is with a 9900K that came with my laptop.

Which BIOS are you on? Might need latest 1.7.3 for max performance.

 

Hmm maybe you are right.. I'm on bios 1.5.0 but I'm scared to update knowing the 2080 will be performance broken I think..

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Take a bullet for the Area community. Worst that can happen is a brick during flash. Double flashing needed if you prefer to roll back afterwards. But you have warranty and there is still some days before the Christmas holidays( if you need new MB and if they are empty) it's still time

 

I don't think updating to 1.7.3 will make a difference.. Micro code isn't in there for this cpu I believe

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You could try latest IMEI driver.

If Dell only offer the DCH variant for Area-51m. Use this one... Intel MEI Drivers & Software Consumer DCH v1932.12.0.1298

Edit. It seems Dell already have released latest... Version 1932.12.0.1298, A03

 

1.7.3 might support it. You can always downgrade back to 1.5.0

9900KF is supported so I suspect 9900KS might be too on the latest BIOS

 

Sadly updating to 1.7.3 made the power limit thing even worse x.X now pl1 is 100000 and pl2 still 131000

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Really would love to know from you guys what I should do, oviously the 9900KS is having issues with power limiting issues due to the 127w tdp the onky way I can have it run at about 4.8ghz max is if I undervolt to -125 on both the core and the cache then it will stay under the tdp limit of 130w the 51m is letting it go to max, this laptop was never probably intended by dell to have a limited edition cpu on it anyway unless they make support for it but I don't see that happening, so should I get the 9900k save $150 and just if it runs to hot at 5ghz if it even gets there.. Just undervolt it 4.8ghz and I see that being able to happen with Temps not to much different, I mean today when I was gaming abit 9900ks cpu was like under 60c at 4.7ghz which I thought was amazing and using 34w lol.. But if you guys think the KS is actually *special* and should in theory run at lower voltages 4.8ghz vs 9900k 4.8ghz then I'll keep this one.

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I thought the KF wasn’t supported since the integrated gpu was needed for some things on the laptop? Like the thunderbolt port. Interesting. . .

 

Can you change power and current limits in XTU? Disable Dell’s bloatware while testing either in Services or Autoruns. As well try ThrottleStop.

But 9900KS should show up as 50x on all cores in bios.

 

Throttle stop isn't letting me change anything and I thought xtu wasn't good to use? Should I give it a try? And I thought if the bios has a certain limit nothing can change that above it.

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You can’t find out without testing. And XTU won’t pop out and bite you

 

This won't change

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Have you tried a BIOS re-flash? Sometimes I have experienced some features not working properly until a 2nd or 3rd re-flash.

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I flashed the bios to 1.7.3 then back to 1.5.0 still same power limit, 1.7.3 made the limit even lower >< but I do notice this cpu runs cooler than even my 9700k but then again the power limits are preventing over 130w but this cpu is at 4.7ghz atm and my 9700k would get hotter for sure. I'm learning to work with it but I will test putting my 9700k back in, in afew hours and see what happens and if power limit goes back up to 210000 in bios then I know something is up with proper compatibility.

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What about going with something like a 9700k from silicon lottery? Possibly one tested to 5.1 or 5.2 ghz? That way you'd at least expect it to hit 5.0 all cores within the 51m?

 

Well I definitely see gains with this i9 and I guess I really Wana keep it because I know they will be gone after December January and price will be 1000 all over the place... Just like the 8086k is 450-600... $ and if I ever get a desktop... Or at this point considering a clevo I'll actualy be able to use the bios my way and not be crippled. But maybe I'll make it aware that this is happening with 9900ks in a video and see what dell can do.

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Someone knows where I can find my laptop serial number? Thanks!

 

On bottom there should a service tag near the rear vent middle.

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The Service Tag is the Serial Number?

 

I believe it can be used similarly, what are you using it for, like dell support stuff?

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Nope, to take out an insurance haha

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Hmm I know near service tag there is another number

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So I put my 9700k back in and what do you know it goes to 210000 easy.. On both power limit so definitely a compatibility issue for now unless dell adds it later but idk if that will happen, so the most I can get stable is 4.7ghz on all cores without throttling by power, soo.. Stock 9900k speeds, should I take it back and get the 9900k? Or do you guys think 9900ks will be added for support at some point and just keep it?

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Everything is wired to dGPU except TB3. You will lose TB3 and Intel QuickSync.

Somewhere here is running 9900KF and I think there was another member here running 9900KS.

@EepoSaurus had similar issues with his 8700K.

Maybe he can chime in

 

I dont think the KS is going to work at all.. At least not now, thinning best to return it... Unless you advise against it.. Idk what to do

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You're most likely hitting VR current limit and not power limit. Do you have access to VR limits? If not, undervolting should help you push the ceiling higher.

 

It is a VR thing I'm pretty sure, but bios shows 131000 as max limit

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Good to know. Not a huge lose if you don’t need thunderbolt.

 

When you set Core IccMax to 255 amps, does it persist after a reboot?

 

I think the important question here is what is your goal with a 9900K/9900KS?

9700K already performs well in games and runs cooler than 9900K.

What is your purpose for going 9900K/KS?

 

Actualy the KS was running cooler @4.7ghz and because why not I guess? I wasn't trying to pay arm and leg for 9900k at dell checkout

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Depends on how much you tinker with that 9900k

 

I've seen some people hit 5.1-5.3Ghz on the 9700K in this laptop

I can do 5.3Ghz CPU-Z validation and 5.1Ghz bench max.

But I run at stock for everyday usage.

I remember paying +$450 from 8700 at dell checkout when I bought mine.

Considering the price of these CPUs at retail I didn't think it was that bad.

 

I run 5Ghz daily on the 9900k, it took a few mods to get the temps under control.

Spoiler

 

I only do it for benching purposes. I find 4.7Ghz vs 5.0Ghz not much vs. the amount of heat generated. Then again I haven't done any cooling mods.

Spoiler

 

I posted all the benchmarks with hwinfo64 temperatures, to show that it's doable to get 5Ghz at reasonable temperatures, albeit it takes effort.

Even for 4.7 lapping would do wonders

 

Yes, with Dell products the service tag is their 'serial' number...they just wanted to be different and they ended up confusing people.

 

Anddd back to normal we go, hope this is a good chip and hope the aw works well with it >< if things get to hot well I guess I'll settle on the special edition and return this run it at 4.7ghz call it a day. But I just couldn't see myself sticking with KS and not at least trying to see what I can do with the K to reach something higher than 4.7ghz

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Hey, new to the forum but was wondering if anyone could help me. I have a bricked Area51m where i get the two blue lights and one red light (BIOS Corrupt). I have a bios chip programmer but was wondering if anyone has a Hex or Rom / Bin bios of a working area51m i could use to program it? Or would anyone know the best way of going about getting one?

 

Remember to clear CMOS when changing CPU's.