*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Well, after a pause, it happened again this morning after a 2days PC uptime (with multiple sleep mode session)

Note that AHCI is disabled in bios setup

My 51m configuration is a standard 512 ssd + 1tb SSHD, no raid things

edit: windows does not boot in AHCI mode

 

You can (should) switch to AHCI from RAID on easy, just Google it, and it is recommended. No need to re-install Windows. Yes, the laptop will not start up if you only change to AHCI in Bios. I also had RAID on when I received the laptop. Switched to AHCI, because only then I can use e.g. Samsung SSD driver and I also think that power options work (better) with AHCI on.

After switching to AHCI I would check for proprietory driver for the SSHD, then power options should see it/have influence on it

 

There are apparently some ways to change that setting on a "live" OS, but they involve going into Safe Mode, mucking around with the registry or Device Manager, etc.
Anyway it seems that RAID is required for systems with Intel Optane SSHD device :/

Should I play with HIPM/DIPM optons? (others than "active")

 

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Should I play with HIPM/DIPM optons? (others than "active")[/QUOTE]

Anything other than 'active' will make the drive to try to save power when not under load = higher latency, in your case noise when switching HD rotation on/off. Do you have IRST (software suite) installed? I think there is an option to keep drive always run full performance.

 

Yep, it was activated. Now deactivated

 

The VRMs for the memory modules are at the GPU side, not the ones at the back of the card. Playing with memory overclock won't burn the VRMs.

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Strange thing I noticed - HWInfo shows my battery with a wear level 0f 6.8% out of the box... is this a calibration issue? I believe the unit was built around mid-September, appears never used (got it from Microcenter) and I picked it up on Black Friday. I don't do much if ever off power, but curious....

 

Mine is 6,6% since new. This appears to be normal.

Maybe, Dell doesn't want to fully utilize the capacity of the batteries to avoid issues (apparently they had several laptops catching fire and they got sued for that)

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Was it that low when you bought it? I mean mine is like barely 2 weeks old...

 

Mine was around 5% from the first minute of switching it on.

 

It was and continues to be 6,6%. And I use this thing on battery with some frecuency.

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What are the chips being cooled by the passive heat sink then? Those are the ones that I see pictures of burning out.

Anyway... this is all folly, I won’t OC my video memory, it literally provides negligible performance gains in games.

 

From just reading the last few posts it still seems everyone is having QC issues. Is it even worth it to buy this laptop? Has it gotton better since it first went on sale?

 

I just don't see how they are supposed to be doing this within the usual $399 to $499 of a video game console.

I mean the 5700 XT was ~9TF and was a $350 GPU. A 12TF GPU that hasn't even been released to market? How can this be in a video game console?

My main confusion is, if this is true, how can AMD pack that into a console without completely devaluing their upcoming desktop products?

 

Now hard drive wont go off after a 20h uptime (many sleep mode in/out)
It click around every 20s on idle

edit: he just went off one time and restarted immediatly

edit2: after a reboot, the drive again perform as intended, going off after a couple of minutes, no clicks.

 

Pretty sure most consoles up to and including the PS3 were stronger than PCs, so I cant see why it cant happen again.

 

Hi guys whats the best stable Nvidia driver Version atm for GTX 2080 ? i'm still using old drivers from 6 months ago or so.

 

Yes it seems so and again it's quite normal given the fact that people are mainly here to solve problems.
I have mine for 6 months now and without any issues (i9 9900K 2080 bios 1.5.0), just spent some time finding a sweet spot with GPU undervolting for more perf and less heat.

 

I like 441.08 I might update if I end up playing games that are apart of the game ready driver
But last time I updated it made my clocks all odd on the gpu.

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The core vrm is what was burning up in the we things :3 ND you pushed core already soo mean. Memory time!

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I hope it works for ya. I, too, need to change back for battery longevity, but am hesitant. Guess I gotta do it sooner or later.

I'll be looking for your report.

 

I have had it since day 1 and not a single issue. I haven't heard about new units burning up alot so it seems to have gotten better.
Also since dell has the best warranty service if you have a issue it's easy to get it replaced.

At this point i would wait until rev2 to be honest.

 

Hey !
Unfortunately, I have the latest ChiMei G-Sync montior, so 1.5.0 isn't an option for me. I'm running 1.6.2 + 180W vBIOS with the same configuration.
Could you share your undervolting settings, I'm curious to see what your 2080 is capable of.

+ Are you an the 200W or 180W vBIOS ?

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Hi,

I recently switched from RAID to AHCI because I wanted to use Samsung Magician along with their NVMe drivers.

Here is a quick recap on how to switch between the two modes without reinstalling Windows :

- Open Admin command prompt:
bcdedit /set {current} safeboot minimal

- Restart to BIOS and set to AHCI

- Restart. Windows will boot into safe mode and will update the driver.

- Open Admin command prompt:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot

- Restart to boot Windows Normally.

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my friend if it works I love you!

 

Remember, always backup up your important data.
I did this operation without any data loss, but I can't know if something wrong could happen.

However, it should work without any trouble.

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I'm now approaching you guys because I'm encountering a new issue with my 1650x wireless card.
For now several weeks, I'm getting strange freezes in-game (but also when browsing) along with wireless card disconnections (the Wi-Fi logo is replaced by the earth with a ban sign).
I'm wondering what it is?
Since I'm running Windows on an NVMe SSD I saw that switching to AHCI operation could improve lowering these freezes. However, I'm still getting some freezes and these wireless card disconnections...

 

When announced, but by the time they actually hit market no...

 

No. Instead of worrying about the small subset of folks with issues (or reading other brands horror story's or seeing all the posts from happy users.) Just save yourself the trouble and buy a Clevo. Its better in every way.....heck. it also makes your genitals bigger.

I read it so somewhere on the internet, so it must be true...

 

When on batt I sometimes get a momentary freeze. Never when plugged in.

That wireless logo though.....have not seen that..how are connecting? Could it be a custom network icon?

 

There are issues with all laptops, but if you do want the A51m I'd hold off until January/
February. I think the 2nd revision is on the way and will hopefully be better in many ways although I've had no issues other than 1 dead pixel, which was sorted immediately.

 

Do you use the Killer software? I think this is an issue that sometimes raises its ugly head when using it. You can uninstall the software and only use the drivers, which might help.

 

Nope, since day one, I got no Killer Software.
But now, I'm thinking of installing all of them.
I'm actually getting this issue every hour !!!
It's not possible, I can't play anymore.

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Ill try dis if clicks show up again

 

Have you double checked its definitely not been installed by Windows? I'd install the latest driver only package from Killer, then uninstall everything Killer using something like Revo. Then install the driver only package you downloaded and test it for a bit. I've got an AX200 card waiting to be installed to try and eliminate the Killer software and potential issues, this way we only have the ethernet to worry about.

 

So I am curious:

How often is the thermal limit on the 9900K + 2080 kicking in for folks on a BIOS that enforces it? I ask because even running TimeSpy Extreme Stress Test on a 9700K + 2070 I am not hitting it unless I run on Quiet mode which I would never do. Are folks on the 9900K + 2080 frequently throttling on Balanced or Performance mode?

 

The thermal limit of 75c was introduced on BIOS 1.5.4, I think its more severe on the 200w vBIOS.

I ran a few tests on performance and full speed fans using the 180w and 200w vBIOS. The 200w vBIOS caused quite aggressive throttling for a considerable time, however, using the 180w version the throttling didn't seem anywhere near as bad and the scores were better using the 180w vBIOS. It'll come down to the type of games or apps you use etc. @Biker Gremling has made a good guide to undervolting the 2080 to keep the temps in check.

 

Thanks for the reference. I am still in a window that I could theoretically return my unit up through the first week or so of January, so I am on the fence. I like the unit, I like the Gsync screen, I like the storage capacity, the _only_ real issue is this question of throttling... is the heat on the 2080 just substantially more than the 2070? I mean its more power, ergo more heat, but I have yet to find a good breakdown on the temperature difference on average between the 2070 and the 2080 in an Area 51m R1... anyone know of one? Wish we had a detail on an R2 version, but if I know Dell there might be a teaser on it then not one for another 3-6 months.

 

I throttled constantly on world of Warcraft at setting 10. Within a few minutes the FPS dropped substantially and it didn't unthrottle for a long time. Not as much, if at all on the 3dmark benchmarks. I think the gaps between the phases of the benchmarks have enough time to cool a bit. Stress test it would kick in just about and it would fail the tests

Performance, or balanced it didn't matter

9700 plus 2070 is a totally different thing.

I also did try ubdervolting and I couldnt get it not throttling. But I am not sure if did it right

 

I dont throttle on wow? And I'm using setting 10 and 200% resolution scale in 2080 :0

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Well, I did. 2080 and i9-9900. No over lock, performance fan and cooling pad. Hit 75deg within 5 mins and throttled consistently

Could be any reasons why I lost the silicon lottery for temperatures

 

I use 9900KS and you Wana make sure you are on bios 1.5.0 there is a downgrade guide or u can help u if u want

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The RTX 2070 does 115W vs the 180W+ of the RTX 2080. This is a substantial difference.

You need to rise the temperature limit on Alienware Command Center. Check out the Area 51m undevor and overclock guide.

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So I went to use the machine for the first time properly since the technician replaced the MB and GPU on Thursday and the GPU appears to have died. Green horizontal lines all over the display, the machine then falls back on using the intel chip and then reboots.
The machine is from the Dell Outlet store so a new replacement won’t be an option.
I guess I will be on the lookout for something else, maybe the HP Omen.

 

Were you on the later BIOS 1.5.4+ and using the 200w vBIOS?

 

I think @DaMafiaGamer went down the same route and has been having a good time with his, as well as carrying out some decent mods.

 

Yes And no

 

U don't have warranty? It's just that's it?...

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Yeah this looks really odd man... admittedly, I’m on a 9900K with a 2080 on bios 1.5.0 so my temp headroom is higher, but even on BFV on ultra, running at 120-144 FPS do I rarely touch 80°. I can’t imagine a simple game like WoW reaching 78 or whatever the throttle point is... you need to repaste and replace pads if you haven’t IMHO.

Repasted with Kryonaut and Fujipoly Ultra Extreme pads. I run games on performance fan profile, no cooling pad...

Stock clocks on 9900K, -104.5 mV UV. OC 2080 to 1980 MHz at 925 mV max voltage.

Also, if I remember correctly, at least a few people had their 51m's come with one or more thermal pad missing!

 

Thanks. The Omen does appear to be most reasonably priced alternative.

1 year warranty, but they still can’t fix the g-sync issue either - that was the reason for the new MB and GPU - so I will be seeking a refund instead.