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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by ssj92, Jan 8, 2019.

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    On a 2070 + 9700K base clocks I got about 117W max if that helps.
     
  2. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    I still think it's a crime they shipped 51M gimped with 2400Mhz ram. And only gave secret sauce bios to a pro overclocker as a PR stunt. Meanwhile, we see 3600-3700Mhz on our end of the pond.
     
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    Max load?
    Then why does the laptop have a 510W PSU?
    I was just wondering, as a 510W PSU is also supplied with the higher spec configurations (9900K + 2080), could I get away with just using the 330W PSU with the 8700 + 2070 most of the time? As there are only a few games that push both the CPU and GPU.
     
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    Is it normal for the fans in awcc to just ramp up abit more on their own regardless of manual curve set? While I'm playing wow the temp on gpu hits 65c and fans just push up to a higher speed even though I have them set at 40% manual they go to 70% on their own then back down after temp is like under 60? Why...

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    Dell don’t let you utilize full power from a single 330w psu. Dell’s engineering’s as it’s best. 330w psu with 85% efficiency means 412w from the wall. Dell give you 265w.
     
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    Manual settings for fans don't do anything on AWCC, it's a useless feature.

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    Thank you for letting me know I thought I was loosing my mind.

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    I checked it during TimeSpy Extreme Stress Test btw if that helps.
     
  9. Vingard

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    I recently took delivery of an Area 51M (9700k/2070/144Hz g-sync). I immediately noticed an issue with the panel - equally spaced, static horizontal lines running across the screen. Pics below. Any thoughts on what might be causing this?

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    Agreed - while I can't see throttling on a 9700k+2070 on any fan profile except Quiet, its absurd to do a PR stunt, then in turn create so Draconian a threshold as 78' C. I mean even 84' C is more reasonable by far. You might have _some_ systems which still have a problem, but man up and repair them. I just cannot see how given the sort of testing that these big OEMs are known for, especially with the resources Dell has that something like this ever happened. I'd love to know how testing went that this problem ever happened.

    That's pretty zoomed in - but even zooming in on mine (same model specs) I don't see anything remotely like that. Sounds like a defective panel tbh.
     
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    I installed BIOS 1.8.1. Seem to work quite ok. No issues. Actually, my system's been quite stable since I ditched UV. Go figure.
     
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    Ok, so my machine is meant to have G-Sync functionality, but for some reason this has never been the case.

    I originally had the LG model LCD and Dell has recently sent a technitian out to replace the LCD hoping this was the cause of the G-Sync issue. The LCD has now been replaced (this one is now a AUO model) however still no G-Sync.

    I have already tried a clean install of Windows before the technican replaced the LCD. The machine has the latest BIOS, VBIOS and Drivers installed.

    Does anyone have any idea what the issue could be?

    The technician has now requested a replacement Motherboard and GPU.

    Thanks
     
  13. Biker Gremling

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    I think G-Sync had to be activated by the factory when the laptop is built, guess yours didn't have the firmware switch activated.

    A motherboard replacement should solve the problem.

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    So is my chi panel gsync with 1.5.0 fixable with a board swap to? o_O

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    I'd imagine its a panel you need, one of the older ones as your MB will already have G-Sync.

    Its the panel thats not recognised by the BIOS
     
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    Don’t expect they will validate panel for old firmware. + this ain’t cheap.
     
  17. Biker Gremling

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    No, your board is already activated for G-Sync. The issue is that the Chi-Mei panel is supported with BIOS 1.5.4 onwards.

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    Hey folks, who of you is running an overclock on the 9900K as a daily driver?

    If you are, at what frequency? What voltage offset? (If any)

    Using AWCC or ThrottleStop or XTU?

    Some context: I seem to be unable to have my CPU do more than 50x on all cores in ThrottleStop. If I put in 51x or 52x and benchmark, it simply runs at 50x, ignoring my setting.

    Please share!
     
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    Just out of curiosity, for those that have upgraded to 1.8.1 how many are experiencing the power drain issues when the system is off and disconnected from power. I want to gather some numbers to give to Alienware to try and get it fixed.
     
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    It only happened to me on the first boot after upgrading, after being shutdown for 36 hours, showed 0% charge. No problems since. Battery settings in BIOS was set to custom 60%-90% (may have had something to do w/ it?). Decided to charge it to 100% and went with the 'Primary AC' setting for the time being. Will change it back to 'Custom' setting soon.
     
  21. Sup3rKillaX

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    Bios 1.5.4 has the throttling thing on gpu?

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    Thanks.

    So this is most likely a Motherboard issue, rather than the GPU?

    It’s a shame they have to replace the whole board and can’t just apply a firmware patch.

    I would have assumed the issue was the GPU.
     
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    Yes, it's also pretty bad.
    Make sure that throttlestop has been turned on by pressing the "turn on" button.

    Additionally verify that the "overclock" checkbox has been activated.

    Make sure that you launch throttlestop at least 30 seconds after login in.

    You might have to delete the throttlestop.ini file if anything doesn't work.

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    @Virale I'm sure there is another setting within the TPL (could be wrong on naming) tab that needs to be changed. Yours is likely sitting at 50 as the top value. I had a similar issue with the 9700k and @unclewebb recommended setting the higher value to 255 to allow frequencies greater than x50 to be set.

    Let me check and come back to you with the facts.

    EDIT: The post below describes exactly what I was talking about. On the speedshift limits, set the right-hand value (MAX) to 51 or 52, or 255. I set mine to 255 despite only using a x50 multiplier on all cores.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-1052#post-10954090
     
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  25. Sup3rKillaX

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    Bump. I'll have to make my own thread about this.

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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Try turning off cpu features that you don't use, such as AES/Virtualization/Intel TVB etc. Turning these off can result in a higher undervolt.
    I went from -190mV at 4.8Ghz to -185mV at 5Ghz.
     
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    I can't turn those things off in bios :/ locked as f..

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    Ok, so the dell technician has been today and replaced the motherboard and GPU. (The LCD was replaced yesterday). The machine has the latest BIOS and Graphics Driver but still no G-Sync option.

    Any ideas anyone?

    Thanks
     
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    Dumb question....how do you know there is no GSync option.
     
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    Yeah! It’s on haha... I know how to use it, but I had never tried to push 51x or 52x until now. This is the highest clocking chip I’ve ever owned hah... question is specifically for going above 50x.

    I’ve been running stock clocks with a good undervolt, but I’m experimenting with an overclock and seeing how much I can undervolt (if at all), to see if I run it like that as a daily driver.

    I’ve got TS running as start up with Task Scheduler.

    Thank you!
     
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    The option is omitted from the Nvidia Control Panel.
     
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  32. Virale

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    Perfect! I’ll give it a shot. I read a ThrottleStop guide in Tech Power Up that was very vague... I should have trusted the one you’ve linked and read it more throughly.

    Thanks!
     
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    Send it back. This is way too odd.

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    Thats really odd... when I get home I'll check mine.
     
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    So, I've tried enabling CPU performance mode and increased the multiplier on all cores to 52 in BIOS. ThrottleStop Speed Shift settings under TPL are 1 and 52, but the Range still shows 1..50 and is greyed out.

    So, I can’t set an OC over 5.0 GHz. Anyone come across this?

    I’m using ThrottleStop. Maybe someone has done it with XTU?

    Edit: Found it. I had to tick the “Overclock” box in FIVR. LOL!

    Thanks peeps
     
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    Are you actualy hitting 5.2ghz? Without cpu overheating? Can do a benchmark on timespy? I'm just curious

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    I was barely tinkering with it to see what performance and heat this gives. So far, short TS Bench tests have dissuaded me from pursuing more... this is a really hot chip at 5.0 GHz already LOL!

    In short, temps are bad. This is with Kryonaut and Fujipoly Ultra Extreme (that’s like $200 worth of thermal pads and paste LOL!)

    I’m keeping this bad boy running between 4.7-4.9 for its lifetime most likely...

    Gaming on stock clocks and 1980 MHz at 925 mV on the 2080 work really well! No OC on VRAM.
     
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    I saw that at one point, but never tried it. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I ended up reinstalling factory image. All seem good, now.

    I wish I could help, but my problem occured before I installed the new BIOS. Fixed after reinstalling factory image.

    Interesting. Now that you mention it, I have mine on Primarily AC, now, and having no issues. It was custom before, when it was draining. I'm thinking I'll leave it as is. Now I don't know if the fix was reinstalling factory image or changing BIOS setting away from custom.
     
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    So you were draining battery prior to 1.8.1 while powered off?
     
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    Only way to tell is by changing it back to Custom, which I will do soon, just not today :)
     
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    Correct.

    At an average of 0.3-0.4% per hour, consistently.
     
  42. Sup3rKillaX

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    You should be able to pull off +600mhz in memory with gpu. And how hot is your cpu getting?

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    So if I had 2666 memory can it work or was that whole thing a bios that person had to make that work? Something about switching the ram in different slots to make it go to 2666?

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    Nice! I’ve done +500 MHz, but saw negligible benefit in gaming, so I’m running VRAM clocks stock. How much benefit did you see?

    My games already run @144 FPS so why bother lol!
     
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    I mean why not? Ouo lol

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    Hahaha touché! Less wear on the memory modules? I guess?

    Also, I have a launch 51m and don’t want to test my luck with the VRMs, as I have the inferior ones.

    What about you?
     
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    Just replace the pad heatsink on 2080 with fujipoly 1.5mm pad and your good, I got mine like a month ago, upgraded from 9700k to 9900ks and 32gb ram. 4.8ghz on cpu with under 90c on TS bench full fan speed.

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    I did replace that pad when I upgraded pads and compound! Hehe, same!

    It’s not a temps thing honestly. I’m running my 51m on BIOS 1.5.0 and the 200W VBIOS. It’s more cautionary because I didn’t see a benefit to OC the VRAM.
     
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    I promise you will be okay :3 but your cal

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    Doen't work with the Area-51. The reason... Read your own words in post #17188


    Area-51m, RAM works at 2400MHz instead of 2667MHz
    Latest post on ‎12-10-2019 12:39 PM by RufflesBR

    By the way... Can you disable SGX in bios?
     
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    This is what I have in NVIDIA control panel. I would insist on a new unit. 15762090784152584048734448991489.jpg
     
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