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    2.1 speaker system (bass most important part)

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by cumbaya19, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. houstoned

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    regular headphone jack just like most 2.1 systems.
     
  2. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Certainly. I do it all the time. ^_^.

    The Z-2300 has a standard 3.5mm audio plug. Just plug it into the headphone jack of your laptop. It also works with iPods, portable CD players...anything with a standard 3.5mm audio port.

    Also, it includes an adapter to allow compatibility with red and white RCA audio cables. It's useful for things like DVD players, TV's and game consoles.
     
  3. cumbaya19

    cumbaya19 Notebook Evangelist

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    My speakers came yesterday. Set up was a breeze. Then started the dark knight and all I can say is WOW! The Bass is perfect! The speakers are loud and don't take up too much room. YOu can hear them everywhere. Thanks so much for your help!
     
  4. rageman

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    HELL YES!!!

    I just got the Z-2300's and from upgrading from the Z4's all I can say is WOW TOO!!!!

    Great to hear you are happy. Perfect fit it sounds like and w/o the hassle of the 5.1!!!

    ROCK ON!!!!!!! :D

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  5. cumbaya19

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    haha turned o a millie and the bass is ridiculous in a good way
     
  6. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Awesome to hear you got your Z-4's, dude. And A Milli is definitely a good song to test your bass with. :p
     
  7. OpenFace

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    Wow. :)

    The Z-2300 must be an outstanding system. There is a ton of love for them here. Out of curiosity, I looked them up on some other sites and the verdict seems to be the same. I'll be keeping these at the top of the list when I look to replace the dirt cheap Altec Lansing set I picked up at Walmart last summer.
     
  8. rageman

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    It would be WELL advised my friend. I love them! :D
     
  9. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    We sing their praises with good reason. If they weren't the best 2.1 system you can buy for around $100, then we wouldn't be nearly so excited about them, would we? :p
    For damn sure. There is nothing like treating yourself to some real good quality audio equipment. These babies bring your music to life and put you right in the middle of your movies and games.
     
  10. OpenFace

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    Awesome. :)

    I had a chance to check this system out at Best Buy yesterday. Unfortunately, the demo was playing some country song and it didn't have the bass that I was expecting. Maybe next time I'll bring my Zune and a cable with me to see if I can demo it with that. ;)

    Has anyone else heard these at Best Buy and been put off? If I hadn't read so many comments on the system before going to the store and hearing them, I would dismiss them immediately after seeing the $170 price tag. From the way it sounds on the forum and just about every other site that mentions this system, they are exceptional. The HP price is definitely an appealing offer.

    They're still at the top of my list, and I'm becoming more and more interested in picking them up. I am thinking that they'd come in handy over the summer. I'll be moving back home until August so this would allow me to set up some quality sound in my room without rewiring my Onkyo 7.1 (though I'd only wire up 5.1). I'd take thundering cinematic bass over the little nuances offered by surround sound, especially if it's easier to set up and more easily transported. ;)

    ---

    I just watched a video on YouTube of a guy running two Z2300 systems and walking through his house, still able to hear it completely. He even put a water bottle on the ground to demonstrate the vibrations. :eek: I'm not looking to run two of them, but it got me wondering how one would rig that up. I'm not sure if such a cable would provide the expected results, but could something like this be used to split one remote's signal and send it to both subs for control?

    [​IMG]

    (or reverse the male and female ends, I don't know how the remote is connected)

    The Logitech Z2300s are insane! I'm ordering mine right now.

    I'm sure it'll be delivered before my Vaio so I'll have it in time for that happy day. :D
     
  11. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I was just in Best Buy a few days ago, and I played around with their speaker demos, including the Z-2300. But they were playing some sort of hip-hop song, nice and bass-heavy, so you could really feel it. :D
    When I ordered mine, I had never actually heard the things before. I was actually blown away; I was not expecting nearly as much power and volume as they gave me.

    And that HP price is fantastic. I ended up getting mine from Amazon for around $100 plus $20 or so shipping.
    Thundering cinematic bass is damn right. I've been watching my Band of Brothers DVD box set all week with my Z-2300's plugged in. I'd rather have this sub alone than a cheaper 7.1 set any day.

    Although I don't know about "more easily transported". :p The subwoofer is pretty big and requires some serious packaging to take anywhere.
    That's an interesting idea. I suppose if you got a sufficiently long cable like the one you posted, it's possible to control two speaker setups at once.

    You're gonna enjoy the hell out of them when they arrive. :D
     
  12. OpenFace

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    Haha, I hear what you're saying about the transport part. While they don't look portable by any reasonable means, I'd rather lug the sub and two small satellites over my Onkyo setup. ;) I don't plan on moving the Z2300 often; probably between home and college three times a year (moving down, winter recess, and then summer).

    I am really excited to hear the system in person. It did sound good in the store but it was hard to gauge the bass and speaker quality with a country song like that. I have absolute faith that the Z2300 will satisfy all of my expectations. :)

    Cheers to everyone that suggested them. I sure I'll be as happy with them as you all seem to be. ;)
     
  13. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    One caveat: be very careful with all the wires. The wired remote, and the speaker wires. If any of these break, Logitech does not replace these individual parts, but instead will have you send back the entire Z-2300 system for replacement. It's a real pain in the butt, from what I hear. The Logitech forums are full of complaints about this rather unnecessary policy.

    But if you take care of them and don't chew through your cables, then you should be just fine. :D
     
  14. OpenFace

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    Oh, good call on that. That's some valuable advice for all owners to be aware of. It would be quite a task to send the system in for repair.

    On an unrelated note, I just got the email confirming that my Vaio is being built! I'll have to grab some Blurays to watch and demo the Z2300s. They'll be delivered to my home in Decorah this week, so I'll be going back. I won't have the Vaio at that point, but that won't stand in the way of testing out the system. ;)

    This is all so exciting!
     
  15. rageman

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    I know what you mean man!

    I ordered my HP HDX18t around the same time as the Z-2300's. Got the Z-2300's a week before my HDX, but now I have both and I am in HEAVEN!!!!! :D

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  16. CuriousN

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    would I need a sound card for the z2300, or will the standard laptop headphone jack work fine?
     
  17. rageman

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    The laptop headphone jack will work.

    For future reference, if you have headphone jacks that means you have a sound card. It's what sends the audio signal out whatever source you use as well as your laptop speakers themselves. :)
     
  18. rageman

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    Just like if your laptop has a monitor. That means you have a video card.

    Same w/ the sound card issue.
     
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    i mean would an external usb sound card make the sound any better?
     
  20. rageman

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    It could I guess. You'd have to read reviews on the sound card itself.

    On a laptop, I wouldn't bother.
     
  21. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    External laptop sound cards aren't going to make a hell of a difference either way. I use my Z-2300's on my Studio 1535's standard headphone jack, and it sounds great.
     
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    Mastershroom wat

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    It looks like that's very similar to the Z-5500, which is 5.1. It has the same 188W subwoofer, too.

    According to every review I've ever read, the Z-2300 and Z-5500 are on par with each other (and by extension, I assume, the Z-560 you linked.)
     
  24. wearetheborg

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    I think the Z-5500 has a bigger subwoofer then the Z560
     
  25. Mastershroom

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    That would be because it's a newer model. :p

    Either way, they have the same wattage, so you can expect comparable performance.
     
  26. OpenFace

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    My Z2300 will be delivered today, but it's going to Decorah. I'll have to wait until tomorrow evening to get there and try them out. I've already started crafting a playlist of songs to demo the system with. There isn't much on it yet. Anyone have any suggestions?
     
  27. Mastershroom

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    Anything bass heavy. I'm not normally a huge fan of rap/hip-hop, but try "A Milli" by Lil Wayne. If nothing else, it's excellent for showing off that bass.
     
  28. OpenFace

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    I'll check that one out. I've seen quite a few videos on YouTube of people testing these with that song. It must be pretty good. ;) I just checked and I don't have it so I may have to stream it from Songza or something.

    Here's what I have on the list that I'm most excited to experience:

    Kanye West - Flashing Lights
    Lil Jon - Get Low, Da Blow
    The Lonely Island - Jizz In My Pants, I'm On A Boat, Boombox
    Mogwai - Burn Girl Prom Queen, Cody
    Owl City - Fuzzy Blue Lights, The Saltwater Room
    Rob Martino - One Cloud
    Snoop Dogg - Sexual Eruption
    Three 6 Mafia - Late Night Tip (this song is always brought up when people are looking for bass heavy songs to test car subs; it does sound really cool)
    Tupac - Hail Mary


    One of the heaviest bass songs I've listened to in my car was Play by David Banner. It is a filthy song, but the bass had my passengers in the back tickled silly.
     
  29. rageman

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    Bullet in the head! RATM

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    Throw some techno at it....

    If you want to blow your socks off------> Cosmic Gate- Fire Wire

    Borrow it off a friend on Limewire ( ;)) ....

    It starts off slow.... but that's because it becomes insane starting at around the 50 second mark.... from there... well, hold on.

    The single greatest song (imo) to listen to on these speakers is------> Tiesto- Adagio for Strings
    It just hits every part of the spectrum man.... it's incredible on these speakers. It's a MUST listen...
     
  32. OpenFace

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    I'll have to find those songs and demo the system with 'em. I don't have very much techno so it could be a welcomed addition to the library. ;)

    So, I got home at about 9 PM and went to set these up. I plugged everything in but it wouldn't turn on. For the better part of ten minutes, I was unplugging the remote and retrying. It just would not turn on. Come to find out, there is a power switch on the back of the sub that I completely overlooked.

    It powers up perfectly. I haven't tried them out yet. I can't believe I've managed to hold of for this long. I'm perfecting the playlist to test them out with. I'm really excited! I'll be trying them out shortly.
     
  33. rageman

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    Keep in mind they will sound better in time.

    I've only had mine for just over a week, but I can tell that the sub is getting broken in. I hear way more bass then when I first got them. It's lower bass it sounds like!

    Also, gotta love how the don't distort on full volume!
     
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    Oh no doubt. I'm looking forward to hearing them over time. :D
     
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    Do be careful when you're using them at very high volumes. If I turn the volume knob past 3/4 with my laptop volume on full, I can smell burning, presumably the fuse getting hot, and the heatsink on the back of the sub gets pretty hot to the touch.
     
  36. OpenFace

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    Thanks for the advice. I'm not playing them very loud while I break them in. I'll keep an eye out for that in the future though.

    These sound great and they're just sitting on the floor next to me. I'm going to set them up in a better spot later.

    :D
     
  37. Mastershroom

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    Very nice. I've currently got the satellite speakers on either side of my laptop on my desk, and the subwoofer is off to the right. Surprisingly, though, it doesn't make the sound very right-heavy at all. The sub just kind of fills the room from all directions at once; it's very well balanced.
     
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    Do you guys get a hum from the subwoofer even when the volume module is off (but power is still going to subwoofer from mains) ?
     
  39. Mastershroom

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    I don't. Does it disappear if you kill the power switch on the back of the subwoofer?

    It could be radio interference, but if that's true, then it's very unusual. The Z-2300's cables are all very well shielded, and I've never had any interference with mine.
     
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    I don't wearetheborg.
     
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    Actually mine are Z560's. The hum does disappear if I disconnect it from the main power. I've had two Z560's. The hum was barely there on the first one, more proounced on the second one. But the first one had some major crackling issues when I adjusted the volume knob. I hope these power issues have been fixed in the Z2300's
     
  42. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Ah, that probably explains it. It's an older model, and I'm willing to bet that the cables aren't very well shielded.

    I've never heard any humming from my Z-2300. The only sounds it makes are the ones I play through it. :p
     
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    So is it a better idea to get a pair of z-2300 or a pair of used klipsch promedia? I actually listened to z-2300 at a local store, but the base was not really appealed to me since they are not too deep, nor too clear. I was comparing it with a Bose 3, and the Bose 3 did have a clearer and deeper base, but the price for Bose isn't in my range. I am thinking of z-2300 or Klipsch promedia 2.1. Should I give z 2300 a try, although I tried it in store?
     
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    creative inspire 2.1,that`s what i have,i like it,and it`s cheap ;)
     
  45. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Never mind the fact that he made his decision and bought them weeks ago.
     
  46. OpenFace

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    I had a very similar experience. I tried the Z2300 in a Best Buy store and it did not impress me as much as I would have liked. I had already ordered them through HP so I was trying to not let it get to me. I didn't test any other systems because I was in a hurry, but my experiences were similar to yours; the bass wasn't as deep as I was expecting and the entire system just didn't sound right.

    I finally had a chance to demo the system in my home environment. The improvement was unbelievable. It sounded so much better in person. The bass filled the room, it was well defined, and made the songs a joy to listen to. My only complaint is that the high range and mid range frequencies weren't as distinguished. I don't want to pass any final judgments because it was all set up in a little pile on the floor next to the recliner I was sitting in. I still have to set it up in a more formal arrangement before worrying about that.

    I cannot vouch for the Klipsch Promedia 2.1 setup. My experience with Klipsch has been neither horrible nor mind-blowing. My dad had a 5.1 setup that sounded fine, but the bass was lacking. However, he got another 5.1 setup and the bass was fantastic. I would consider it to be very close to the Z2300. The Klipsch sets definitely did cost a lot more.

    Again, my experiences are only based on two sets of Klipsch computer speakers. I have never tried the Pro Media 2.1. Those do get good feedback, but so do the Z2300s. I love the bass on the Z2300s; it is definitely more substantial than you'd gather from an in-store assessment.

    If you have a way of getting the Z2300s with a good return policy, you could give them a shot. Unfortunately, any retail store will charge close to $170 for these, as opposed to the $120 through HP. You could get them from Best Buy, try them out to decide if you like them, and return them so you could buy them through HP and save some money. I'm not sure of how ethical that is, though. It's not fraudulent activity (as far as I know; I'm not a lawyer), but I'd still have reservations.

    Good luck with your decision. The Z2300s are a great system!
     
  47. Mastershroom

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    Unfortunately, Best Buy is not a great acoustic environment for testing these speakers. The whole building is one giant room, so sound just kind of travels away until it fades completely. In a smaller room, like a living room or bedroom, it's much better, because it's small enough for the speakers to completely fill the room with sound.
     
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    Fully agree. The room makes a huge difference. I'm a bassophile and the bass from these (actually Z560s which are inferior) is plenty. If you place the subwoofer close to a wall, you'll get an even better oomph.
    Sub $200, I dont think there are better speakers. If you are willing to spend $400 for dedicated subwoofers + extra for speakers + amplifiers =$700+, then yes, you can get better speakers.

    I've never felt that the bass was not deep enough with this subwoofer; and I keep the bass level at 30% :)
     
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    Try some Yung Joc out on these! Holy hell does it pound!
     
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    I see a lot of people saying that they keep their bass level's below the 100% mark! Not me, I have it full when listening to music! :D

    If I am listening to sports radio/talk radio, I set the bass to 50%.

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