If you want a desktop mouse good for claw-gripping, check out the Razer Abyssus, if you don't mind the lack of side buttons. If you need more buttons, the Lachesis is also a good choice. Slightly bigger than the Abyssus, but its shape is definitely optimized for claw-gripping. You may also like the Logitech G9/G9x, as they are quite claw-friendly with the Precision grip attachment. Unfortunately, none of these are wireless.
Perhaps the new R.A.T. 9 might suit you; it looks like it will work quite nicely for a claw grip, and it's wireless.
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Yeah, after going to my bluetooth mouse, I now have a profound dislike for wired mice. I just... hate the feel of the tug of the wire when moving really quickly. I have relatively small hands too. I was looking to get a slightly larger than mid size mouse (something between medium and large..., closer to the large) that was wireless and had one or two extra buttons.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the RAT is the one pictured a few posts earlier, with the terminator-esque design? -
I went from wired to wireless but then i went back to wired for two reasons
- batteries always die at night when there is no shop open, your in the middle of an exiting fight and you have no spares around
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(two in the mouse, two in the socket).
As for Bluetooth, I'm not really noticing any delay on my V470. Only if I let it go asleep after about six or seven seconds. The resume from sleep is under a second, and it autoadjusts where the cursor should be, as if the mouse had never gone to sleep at all. So, pretty nifty I thought, and saves a USB slot. Eh.
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As a former twitch player (high sens) i've never noticed any kind of problems with this. Trying to get used to low sens but probably not as low as the true low sensitivity players.
Then again, my mousemat is as large as my 22" screen so i rarely (if ever) need to lift my mouse.
I wouldn't say it's wrong to lift your mouse but i'd imagine it adds to the distraction, which is something i wouldn't want when in a pro gaming situation.
Hadn't seen this thread since it's been revived from the grave but read the first post (but not all in it though, so this is probably mentioned) and i believe it should be taken with a grain of salt.
All of the "info" that's being spouted is merely subjective views.
You're not more accurate if you're opting for a claw style rather than palm style. You're not more accurate using low sensitivity (but for most people they probably are).
It's almost like the original post tells us that;
A) Low sens is pro.
B) Claw style is pro.
C) Optical is pro.
If having all three, you're ready for the championship.
Which is of course not at the least true.
I suppose it's common sense but for some people that so called information would be the truth and nothing else.
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Reading some i noticed that OP keeps thinking Razer were some "new brand". IIRC Razer was one of the first companies to market gaming mice.
They marketed the boomslang which i thought was amazing at the time (back in 2001). Maybe it wasn't as widely spread though.
The Lachesis was my final product buying from them though. While the Razer ones always served me well (with questionable quality though, see lachesis) i forgot about those times i actually did use logitech that they never failed. Hell, the one i sold to my friend back in like 2003 is still working. Went for a new swedish brand called Qpad first which was a good mouse but support and software was horrible. Decided to go with the g9x and will probably never switch it (unless it would break of course). The only issue i've got is that mouse 3 button is too hard to press, but it's fixed by just binding mouse right scroll button to mouse button 3.
The fact that you can switch to "normal scrolling", like when you have a resistance and how it's usually is in every other mouse to "non stop scrolling" is amazing.
And of course the grips, and the weight, and the profile manager and macro and bind options.
While i haven't read up that much on the subject, i'm seeing people spouting out DPI here and there.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/peripherals/9461-sensitivity-vs-dpi.html
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As far as picking up a mouse being a distraction, I don't find that to be the case unless I'm sweating to the point I can't hold it. Which is why my next mouse will likely be a design similar to the Razer Imperator or Logitech G500/G5/MX518.
What mousemat do you have? I'm still in the market to replace my ball mousemat.
The middle mouse button on my G9x drove me crazy for a while as well. Then I changed it so leaning the wheel either way is the same as the middle mouse button, and now I'm all set.
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Well i've gone through most mouse mats, starting out with the early razer ones. hade the ice mat for the longest time but switched it out for the razer pro mat. I think it's similar to the exact mat, but i could be wrong.
I decided to buy this and so far i'm happy with it:
QPAD Products - Corporate-QPAD®|HeatoN™ ProGaming mousepad - Shop - News
I hate the god damn heaton branding though. It has a soft rubber bottom with hard plastic fitted on it. It's as large as a 22" screen as said
Couple with the g9x i think it's amazing but your mileage may vary.
If your current mousemat is a soft regular mat that's the most common you need to exchange it asap.
Image for the interested (notice the "small" razer tarantula). It's an old pic and the mouse is the Qpad 5K. It's available at the link above.
The mouse has two dpi settings button below the scroll and two side buttons. The software provided does not support macro or binding of the buttons (main reason i bought the g9x). The software supposedly can change lift distance. It's also rated at 5600 dpi iirc. It's large, too large for my hands. But once i got used to it, it was actually very comfortable. I don't know if you can see on my picture but it has indentions (if that's the right word) where you can rest your pinky and ring finger.
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I hadn't tried out the razer pro mat with g9x but it actually feels better than my large qpad mat. Might be because i used the razer pro mat for almost 3 years and just started using the qpad mat. It's alot smaller though (about half the size).
When moving the mouse on the razer it gives better/harder resistance. Moving it takes a little more force and it doesn't glide quite as much as on the qpad. I think this is mostly related to how the mouse gliders responds to the surface. Might go back to my razer mat.
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my mice tend to wear very quickly varying from 6 months to 1.5 yr and they always get the same problem, the left mouse button starts double clicking when I just single click (microswitch wear), so far the G9 is holding out.
Luckily most mice come with a two year warranty; so i almost never have to pay for a replacement
just bought a logitech MX anywhere darkfield for my notebook which seems good as well, although the side buttons are in a pretty awkward place -
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no word for Roccat Kone? i dont blame you for this. i think its mainly sold in EU.
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As of now i am using the Razer Mamba and it truly is the best-of-the-best. -
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I can expect something like that from their low grade mice (as with most companies), but lachesis was expensive and featured new tech as well. It was a great mouse, when it worked. I had issues with it stopping tracking as well and that's something that should not happen when playing FPS's.
Logitech always swap out their products if they fail. I talked to a friend who's in retail and he said that logitech is by far one of the best companies to deal with.
Interesting that your mice only lasts about 6 months -1,5 years. I usually game in general about 12 hours a day and still haven't broken a single mouse.
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Is the sidewinder X5 any good? I found it for like 25 bucks on Amazon and wanted to know if it;s a good deal.
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as of today the cloth around the wire of my g9 started to let loose at the point where it goes into the mouse, theres also a small crack in the plastic of the cable and i can see some exposed wire
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If you're still under warranty, that should be covered.
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but i bought the G9 on sale for 69. the G9 is discontinued and replaced by the G9x, which goes for 99. If a product is discontinued they don't swap it, but give store credit, so i'll end up with 69 store credit and no mouse unless i pay another 30 bucks to get the G9x, and that's something i dont want ( I can buy a lot of sales games on steam for that money) -
Talk directly to Logitech rather than the store you bought it from. If I'm not mistaken, all their gaming mice are covered for 2 years from the date of purchase. All you need is the serial number, which is on the mouse itself, and a scan of your receipt (or a screenshot if it was an online order).
I know a few people who have RMA'd their G9's in the past year and gotten a G9x in return. But even if you get a new G9 back, you're still in better shape than you were before. -
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heyyy! somebody please help me =( I've had a Razer Copperhead for an astounding 5 years LOL still works actually, just a bit of a double click issue which apparently is fixable...anyways I've been thinking of purchasing something new, I have a "fingertip" playing style as defined by razers website which is claw like...but not as extreme and uses only the five contact points of each of the fingers primarily...anyways...i was all mamba psyched till i found it its more palm friendly than otherwise...I'm wondering if I should repurchase my copperhead before they're all gone (or perhaps 2, lol)...or go for the r.a.t. 9 which im blown away by actually...any opinions on that one?? or...yeah...i dno...i dont mind spending money on em, I'm a tad biased against logitech for some reason, lol...any advice would be greatly appreciated =) I also heard that razer is kinda friendly about replacing mice, lol? is that only during warranty or is there a possiblity of me getting a replacement for mine, haha? jst an ignorant question ill throw out there
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If you like the Copperhead, you may just want to get another one, or perhaps the Diamondback 3G. The Lachesis is a very claw-oriented mouse, and the Salmosa is more fingertip-grip friendly, so you may like either of those.
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i liked the shape of the copperhead primiarly, thats the only thing that has me attached still...its better than the diamond back 3g from all the reviews i saw?
hey the lachesis vs the deathadder ryt...lachesis is 3g at 4000 dpi where as the deathadder is 3.5 at 3500...that .5 is what? which is superior? i would imagine lachesis to be good for me for cs cuz of its ambidextrous nature...but curious about the diff. of 3, and 3.5 cuz the naga has 3.5 as well...
and for dota..ive been tihnking of the naga, is it possible to claw/finger grip that mouse? palm area looks very large...thing is, ill be using it for some fps games as well (mainly css)...and i play medium to higher sense as opposed to low, so i dont do any crazy hand movements...and ive never needed to lift my mouse to experience the laser problem...so any advice? naga im pretty into now more for dota...n could use it i guess for css? but not if i have to palm it =_= will appreciate a quick reply! as im checking them out soon! lyk today or tmrw, haha.... -
lachesis i think would fit well in my hand (more fps oriented)...but the naga would be awesome if configured for dota...but i would really lyk a rat 7/9 if im trying to focus on css...u think a naga n rat would be a good combo? cuz compared to the lachesis, i believe the r.a.t. dominates lol?
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With regards to the Copperhead vs. Diamondback 3G, I would personally go for the Diamondback. The main difference between them is the sensor; the Diamondback uses an optical sensor while the Copperhead uses a laser. In general, I prefer optical mice, because I play with low sensitivity.
I wouldn't recommend the DeathAdder to you because it is definitely a palm-grip mouse. The 3G and 3.5G just refer to different generations of sensor.
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Im debating between the Logitech Anywhere MX and the Microsoft Mobile 4000, i plan on doing some gaming on my laptop mainly SC2 and like WoW and whatnot, any suggestions? Im leaning towards the Logitech just cuz it's logitech and i imagine has some kind of hidden edge over the Microsoft one when it comes to gaming.
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Neither of those are going to have any real advantage over the other in gaming. They're both pretty average DPI/high response time normal-use mice.
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well jst got the naga, its very palmy, still manages to be comfortable though for dota...im definitely not as good at cs with this though, haha.... anyways...infrared seems to be a step up to standard optical, i may look into the abyssus...seems like the non palm equivalent of the deathadder =) or do u think maybe the diamondback is better for fps? (since im used to the diamond back shape)
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wanted to ask .... wonder how is gigabyte M6980 and M6900 ? did u guys used before?
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After checking out the specs, I would probably choose the M6900 over the 6980. 3,200 DPI vs. 2,000, and I personally prefer optical over laser, AND it's cheaper for some reason.
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M6980 has 2000 dpi laser while M6900 has 3200dpi optical sensor...
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guys..
thinking of investing in a wireless mouse which is portable as well as good for gaming
now i heard they have issues but this article is quite old.
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hey guys, what do you think of cyborg R.A.T.?
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They're very customizable, but I've heard they have sensor pixel skipping issues. I've never owned one so I can't confirm or deny that, just passing the word along.
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