All you need to know about GAMING mouse

Bump for Lordvader who needs to know a little more about Gaming mouse.

 

That was a really informative read, and I agree with everything you say, except that I ignore all that common sense in my mice selection.

I use to play a lot of CS 1.6 and CS:S, and lately, TF2. I suppose I fall somewhere between casual and more serious gaming. I've always used wireless mice, and more laser mice than optical mice.

I'm currently on a MX Revolution, and loving every second of it.

 

I like this cos it gives me a option of both
& I wish more companys came out with this Idea

Would be nice to have a gaming mouse this kind

http://www.radtech.us/Products/BT600.aspx

 

seems like i ll have to add information about Razer Mamba.


the first wireless gaming mouse with 1 ms response time.

 

I just want to say this guide is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (+rep)
Great job man, looks like a lot of work, and you recently updated it

I was thinking of buying my first gaming mouse, and a search of notebook review brought me here

After reading,and looking around at shops locally, it came to the Diamondback 3G and MX518

I went with MX518 as it was less expensive and I'm getting it soon

Thanks for the guide, looking forward to the headphone guide

 

No Roccat love?

 

Thank you for all the information on mouse, I want to buy one and it'll be really useful for me while buying, I prefer logitech.

 

great products ..but problem is they only sell in European countries.

and NBR members are from US and around the world in Asia also.

personally i have heard about them but havent tried them.


the mice i listed in the guide are all the ones i have tried and used...except Mamba..which i have only seen but not used for Gaming.

 

Logitech mice are great in terms of performance, pricing and innovations such as weight cartridge but they are not very durable imo.

i bought an MX518 1800 DPI model for my bro few months back..and already it has developed wear n tear.

whereas my deathadder is in perfect shape and its more than a year old..and having been brutally used for competitions..matches...8 hour gaming sessions.

so i think i wud like to give Razer a credit for their build quality...expensive but durable

 

Man, you've gone through alot of mice

 

I've been using logitech mouse for 8-9 months, so this really mean they are durable even I play a lot of games like CS 1.6 and CS:S.

 

I got the Roccat Kone gaming mouse
Nice mouse Good looks

but no support for Vista 64 bit
Drivers dont work
very bad

 

So what did you do now?

 

from microsoft
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/Review/139430,microsoft-sidewinder-x8-wireless-gaming-mouse.aspx

is it as good as it looks? i would like a wireless mouse to replace my old faithfull logitech MX510
edit: hmm doesnt work on standard bluetooth :-( i am trying to cut down on wires -
so... can anyone recommend a gaming mouse (not hardcore) that works on standard bluetooth?

 

I just ordered the deathadder today!

 

You have a fantastic review of the main mouses. I am hoping if you can also review the by Gigabyte GM-M8000. It has a good review in the UK and was wondering if you can review it.

I have a criteria which I like your advice on. As most peple, i been through loads of keybaords macro programmable ones. Of recent I realised that the technology incorporated into the programmable mouse has moved into the state where macros are permissible to be added into the mouse hardware. I call it the Clever Mouse, learns all the tricks and performs to spec. It is great until you realise that not all manufacturers have recognise the important of a gaming mouse with good macro learning facilities. I dont mean complicated macros with nesting factilities, just simple multi keys sequence such as Alt+Ctril+F1, Alt+Ctrl+F2, .... up to 6 perhaps.

I run games from a laptop and having this Clever Mouse will improving gaming, in fact I am thinking of desktop with standard keyboards and letting the mouse do all the work will be great.

I have Razer Lachesis mouse sadly I have to conclude that macro facility is very poor. I am looking for advise in how to maximise that facility from Razer and they reply no support go to forum. I came across a review in the Custom PC Magazine on the Gigabyte GM-M8000 mouse and indicated a good macro system as well as other comparable features that is expected in a gaming mouse. However I am no expert on gaming mouse.

I did purchase the Gigabyte GM-M8000 with some reservations but compare to buying the Mamba I think it was a lesser risk. After a few minutes of experimenting the macro facitlites that came with the mouse, it does exactly what I wanted. I just wonder how logitech and MS fare at this.

 

wireless mice are garbage for gaming. google mouse objective benchmarks, some of the expensive mice are the worse and cheap mice the best. You need a low res mouse for fps. some of the best mice are basic ones like mx518.\

razers are also garbage.

don't take my word, look at the benchmarks.

 

My logitech G7 plays just fine. All that stuff about lag is overblown just like everything on the internet.

 

Great informative thread.

Now, could a Mod please unban Nocturnal???
Thanks

 

roccat kone is like a prototype and is full of design flaws like for instance the infamous scrollwheel problem.
In short it looks cool, it feels great, durability is crap.

 

Thats BULL
im useing Roccat Kone & have no Issues
only when i got it last year it did not support Vista 64bit
now it has updated drivers & works fine

 

Oh ok it's bull? yeah uhuh my mouse broke down within 2 weeks so.... yeah the roccat kone is the first attempt of roccat to make the ultimate gaming mouse and it is as long as it works, a lot of people have the same issue with it the scroll wheel is a weak spot of the mouse.
When i returned it to the store I bought it in they said they experienced a lot of returns with this mouse.
It's a prototype it's weak, i didnt smash my scroll wheel with a hammer I used it mostly while reading stuff on the internet so not much wear and tear there.
You can say it's bull but a lot of people have had problems with this mouse so I call bull back on you, sir.
I did keep the 1337 card which was included with this gimmicky mouse when I returned it cause well it shows that im leet ofc.
It's an impotent mouse in a slick package, maybe you got lucky and got the viagra-enhanced version which didnt have a limp scrollwheel lucky you.

 

"i didnt smash my scroll wheel with a hammer I used it mostly while reading stuff on the internet"
You must have MONSTER hands :laugh: hahaha

I use my mouse everyday for GAMING
no Issues at all

 

Guys, lets not buy in to marketing here. if you really want ot know aobut good gaming mice look at the sniper and fps guide written by competitive gamers.

Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. All good fps require good mice = optical.

here's the mouse objective benchmarks. 28 pages of enlightening info. The best mice were some of the cheapest ones (not avail ne more)
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=22

heres one example of competitive setups. The guys has over 450 hours as sniper class alone
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=693677

Razer made the deathadder after the mouse benchmark article in which they switched back to optical (for some reason). They marketed as "1800 dpi 3G infrared sensor" LASER suck, optical has always been better and is absolutely proven in no uncertain terms for FPS gaming.

Here's a video of a highly skilled shooter with a proper mouse setup.
http://www.vimeo.com/927749

 

I am going to have to agree with LordVader. I am getting a Roccat Kone and I live in states. I straight up asked and said I am not going to buy it if the thing just breaks and their is no support. They replied something along the lines of they weren't going to BS me that they have had some "minor" problems with the scroll wheel but they eased my fears when they said it was a very small percent of users that had this issue. So with that said I will be getting my Roccat Kone with my Tusko bag in about a month! Woot!

 

mamba might have the highest dpi but it seems MS x8 has a higher refreshing rate, that might help on accelerations

but this is a great article

 

How can you agree with lordvader when you don't have even have (had) the mouse lol.
You don't have hands on experience with that item.
But anyways good luck with the mouse I hope it doesnt break on you.
As for saying what I say is bs the company itself even says they have a problem lol.
this is a bit of a necro but yeah i was on holidays.

 

Hi Guys!

I have some problems. I used to have made in china mouse and it always breaks down after a few months. ? I play RTS and RPG a lot. I read lots of reviews about MX518 and G5 but I can't decide which one to pick since I don't play FPS much. I did read too about DeathAdder but most users said it wasn't durable so I don't wanna pick it. Can you guys suggest me a durable mouse? I want it to be extremely durable and last for several years. Thanks

Cheers!

 

Logitech and Razer mice come with a 2 year warranty. While I haven't had any experience with Razer customer service, Logitech has been very good at replacing any problems I've had with minimum amount of fuss.

 

So what would you choose? MX518 or G5 or even Mini Optical Mouse Plus? I heard it's good for RTS but I don't know about its durability.

 

Not sure where you heard about the DeathAdder having durability issues...I have an original 1,800 DPI model DeathAdder from 2007 that still works (and looks) like new. The new 3,500 DPI model is top notch as well. And if anything should ever go wrong, Razer service is top-notch.

If it has to be between the MX518 or G5, I would go with the MX518. I prefer optical sensors to lasers, as they generally have a significantly higher perfect control speed with almost the same DPI. It's cheaper, and a superior mouse in my opinion. The only thing I prefer about the G5 is the grip material.

 

Thanks for your advice, I will consider it. About DeathAdder`s durability issue I heard some guys DeathAdder`s broke down in 3 month or something but still, most of the people said it was very good indeed. But I read more positive feedback on MX518 even it was cheap. So maybe I`ll buy MX518 for better value for money and durabillity. Thanks again maybe I`ll change my mind after reading more positive feedback about DA

 

Honestly every company has some that arrive dead or die quickly. Ive had friends hold logitech g5s and mx518 for years but my g5 had trouble after 6 months. For the past couple years my Razer Deathadder has had no issues.

In the end simply which mouse you prefer, unless there are recalls or a HUGE HUGE HUGE amount of complaints its not an issue

 

OCZ Eclipse lol.

 

Totally agree with you

 

If you can, go to Best Buy; they generally have some gaming mice on display that anyone can feel. This usually includes a Razer DeathAdder and a Logitech MX518 or G5, so you can get an idea of what you like.

 

Unfortunately, there are no Best Buy here . There are lots of store like Best Buy but they don't offer display mice because most of people here are not gamers or anything like that they just need a Made In China mouse for updating their facebook and twitter status

 

Not to take anything away from your argument, but I agree. Mechanically speaking, the DeathAdder is a well built product and can last for years with proper care. However, my main point of contention with Razer mice products is the durability of the finish they use on their mice. The finish wears off quickly, exposing the clear plastic shell and makes the Razer snake logo look sloppy when the LED shines through it.

Agreed! The MX518 is the best bang for the buck gaming mouse on the market. It's an older mouse, having been released in the 1Q of 2005 and for a five year old mouse, it still has plenty of chops. The price point is very attractive as well, and its ergonomics is first rate.

 

Do you sweat acid, like the Aliens from AvP? I mean, my palms get pretty sweaty, but aside from the cables, I literally cannot tell my 2007 DeathAdder from my new 3,500 model.

For sure. Definitely the go-to choice for ultra low-budget gaming.

 

I'll go for it then. Thanks for your feedbacks! Now I can make up my mind.

 

This IS a well written guide but I would like to dispute the fact that optical is better than laser for gaming. You talk about the lift-off sensivity being a problem, however the whole idea is that when gaming, you DON'T lift your mouse off the mousemat. Ever. If you're lifting the mouse off the mousemat you need a bigger mousemat and/or a better mouse. Yes, you might do this if you game at low sensivity but especially for the likes of FPS gaming it is NOT good if you're lifting the mouse off at all.

I just find lasers to be better at tracking (or rather, more precise at tracking).

Plus, I do wonder who came up with his DPI estimates. He calls 1000DPI high sensivity gaming? I'd consider that low; I game at 3200DPI all the time, all while being extremely accurate.

 

Hey guys, is Logitech's Mini Optical and Mini Optical Plus the same? If not, could you tell me the difference?

 

there's an error in the guide, the G9 is more claw grip, then palm rest.
being a high sensitivity claw grip player myself i own a G9
The creative fatality mouse (now discontinued) was a great claw grip mouse too, but it was rubbish in quality, I broke 3 in two years time ...
there aren't many good claw grip gaming mice out there unfortunatly ...

 

The new Cyborg R.A.T. 7 and 9 look like they definitely cater to claw-grippers (or at least they can, what with all the adjustments). The Razer Lachesis is also a claw mouse, as is the Logitech G9/G9x with the smaller Precision grip.

 

wow, those cyborg mice do look like they came straight out of a Borg ship, interesting looks, as for Razer, i'm not really fond of them
I am really happy with my G9

 

First of all, lifting your mouse during gameplay doesn't mean you're doing something wrong. Observe videos of professional gamers; they do lift their mice. Also, this lift off sensitivity is a legitimate problem. I notice it on my G9x up to aproximately half a centimeter. My next mouse will be an optical assuming they are availible with high enough DPI.

 

It all depends on personal taste i guess. I would agree with EvilCorsair though
I don't think lifting is good, and i also game at 3200 DPI, makin' headshots with no problem at all.
But everyone has a different style of playing, and no style is better or worse, its all personal taste, same goes for mice, thats why we have so many different flavours, if one technology would be superior, it would be the only one on the market...

 

Anyone able to comment on how large the Sidewinder X8 is? Was thinking of getting it, since the Mamba is too large for my hand, and I'm looking for a wireless gaming mouse.

 

Check out this picture.

 

Ah, so.... huge. I use a claw grip on my current Logitech V470 Bluetooth, so I've looked at the Orochi, but my desktop won't have bluetooth, and using it with a wire would defeat the purpose of the Orochi.