First Gaming Mouse

I am a complete noob when it comes to gaming mice. I am looking for a wired one. It doesn't need to be extremely compliacted. Something less than $100? I really do not know what to look for so that is why I am here.

I will be gaming on my laptop so I don't think it needs a lot of DPI. Right?

I have been reading a lot of bad things about razer so no razers please.

Tell me what to buy haha.


Edit: SO, I have come to the conclusion that I will be buying a G9x. My next question is:

Does anyone know a good gaming mouse pad that is relatively cheap?

 

Logitech G500 or G9x depending if you are a palm or a claw-gripper.

I would say the Razer DeathAdder is the one of the top palm-gripping wired mice out there but...

 

thanks for the suggestions. any reason on why I should buy one of those?

double edit: looking at a video I think I might be palm. bahaha i am such a noob

 

I own a G9x, it has customizable weights and shell. 5600 dpi. The shells allow you to use a claw and a palm grip. The weights are 4g and 7g 4 of ea. The maximum weight would be 28g. scroll wheel can be running free or click to click. On the fly dpi change and interchangable profiles.

I assume the same thing for the G700 without the weights and shell, but more buttons on the mouse. Also the g700 is wired and wireless which is a bonus. the g9x is only wired

 

There's nothing wrong with Razer; just the people who don't like them have a habit of trying to make you believe all their products are crap and will break after a month. The fact is, they're not really any better or worse than Logitech, Saitek, Steelseries, or any other major manufacturer. It's all about preference.

I second Star Forge's recommendation of the DeathAdder. It's an extremely comfortable mouse, and well suited for large hands. It's lightweight and button placement is perfect. It's got 3,500 DPI, which is more than enough, and 1ms response like any gaming mouse. It also has an optical sensor, which is generally better than laser for gaming; no Z-axis tracking, and it will work on pretty much anything but glass. It sounds right up your alley: wired, not complicated, not an insane DPI, and well under $100 ($45 on Amazon).

They also have a new "Black Edition" DeathAdder that has a different textured surface, but the same 3,500 DPI optical sensor. I haven't used that one so I can't comment on it, but I've heard good things.

I have an original 2007 DeathAdder (1,800 DPI) and a 2009 re-release (the current 3,500 DPI model), and they're both working and looking like the day they were bought.

Regular DeathAdder:



Black Edition:

 

Yep, pretty sure the OP said no Razer's.

Well, the nice thing about the Logitech G9x (and the G9 for that matter) is that it comes with removable mouse grips which you can slip on and off according to your taste in ergonomics. This can make the mouse much more "fun" to use because there's nothing that sucks worse than buying an expensive mouse that's uncomfortable after a couple hours of use.

SteelSeries also make pretty decent mice, although I'd stay away from their World of Warcraft and other PC game themed mice. Link to their mice is HERE.

 

If you are a claw gripper, i would definately go for the G9x or the G9. They come with interchangeable grips and allows for weight adding. The mouse is naturally on the small side which suits more of a claw grip but you could use a palm grip too if you have smaller than usual hands (like me).

I use an Alienware Tactx which is a G9 varient that is slightly prettier but does not allow for customization (no grips or weights). And i have to say i really like it, no problems whatsoever, solidly built. I do however palm grip that, although many would say its more of a claw grip mouse.

If you are willing to spend, the G9x would be the best of the 3 i described, it comes with a more precise and higher DPI sensor and it also eliminated the scroll wheel issue(hard to press down) that plagues the G9 and Tactx.

 

thanks for all the inputs guys! I appreciate it. I am way too much of a scrub at this stuff

 

The G500 is also the Palm-Grip equivalent of it. It is also good to note that Logitech has one of the best warranties out there and with standard a 3-Year to boot!

 

Well i read he prefered claw-grip, then he change his mind and said he prefered Palm-grip.... facepalms.

 

He said no Razers because he's read bad things about them, probably half of them coming from you and Kent.

 

yeah really sorry about that I really didn't know what classified what. like i said i am a noob

 

thanks for the SS link, everyone seems to be pushing logitech.

I did say no razers, but just because I said that doesn't mean I can't be convinced out of it.

 

Would anyone recommend me something that has a lot of buttons on it? Would I need it for any other game besides MMOs?

 

If you ask me, the standard 5-button layout (left click, right click, wheel, two thumb buttons) is enough for just about any game. At least, I've never found myself wanting any more than that.

 

just wanted to know if it would be useful in games like starcraft 2.


so far I am really like the G9x. it's pretty sweet.

 

I've never played SC2, but if it has a lot of binds and macros, more buttons might not be a bad idea.

I used to have the G9, predecessor to the G9x. Good mouse, although none of the grips were really good for me and the free-spinning scroll wheel sucked in games.

 

You do realise there's a button at the bottom of the mouse for switching the scroll wheel from free-scrolling to ratchet style?

 

For sc2 a mouse with more macro buttons would be a lot better, i just use the defualt hotkeys though.

 

logitech g700 is, by general consensus, a fantastic mouse. I'm personally a razer guy, but even I have to admit the g700 is really awesome mouse. I believe it has 7 buttons? Should fit your needs well, and it isn't too expensive, 56$ on sale atm

 

The G700 has 13 buttons. Logitech products have always served me well, and I would say that if you like the hand ergonomics and button layout then you can't go wrong with the G700. I wouldn't disregard Razer just because some people have gotten lemons though. The company definitely has its fair share of happy customers, too. The value of finding the perfect mouse is more than the price of buying a Razer anyways, even if for some reason the company screws up and doesn't refund/replace the mouse if it breaks.

 

And in click-scrolling mode it would usually either not register every notch, or register twice per notch.

 

if the G700 is anything like my G500, but with more buttons then it should be a great mouse. i've been debating if i should pull the trigger on this deal or not, myself...

i just got my G500, and it's been great to me, but i just started getting more serious into Rift PvP/instances and those extra buttons would be really handy.

 

I'm afraid that you give us far too much credit, insinuating that we have the ability to easily influence other NBR forum members. Although if that is the case, it's nice to know that people are getting the message when it comes to steering clear of (most) Razer products.

Anyway, in an attempt to demonstrate that I'm the sporting kind, Kent and I are not just the "only ones" who unfavorably critique Razer products. MaximumPC had a nice little write up not too long ago on Starcraft II themed Razer peripherals, perhaps you've seen the following thread about it?

Truth that licensed Razer products = Epic Fail

To the OP, why not head over to a local electronics store and try getting a feel for the type of mouse you like best? If that is not possible, you might try reading reviews on mice on the 'net, perhaps that will give you a better idea of what's available out there instead of the usual fare.

 

I have been doing some looking around on videos and such. I am not sure that my local stores have them, but I be sure to double check.

So far, from what I have heard/seen: (This list isn't in any order)

Logitech G9x
Razer DeathAdder
Razer Naga (Had this recommend by irl friends)
Logitech G700

I am for sure btw a palm gripper, I know I thought I claw but I palm in claw style I guess? haha.

 

If you dont play MMO games i wouldnt pick a Razer Naga for sure, way too overkill, too many buttons.

Would you be travelling alot? if no, i wouldnt recommend a wireless mouse as well. Switching the battery can be a hassel.

Take a look at some Steelseries mouse, they are way better than what Razer offer imo. The Ikari Laser is my first choice gaming mouse thats suited for Palm-gripper.

 

I wouldn't be using the wireless that much, not a fan of wireless in general when it comes to headphones, keyboards, mice etc. But I will be using this in college.

Ill take a look thanks.

 

So I am pretty sure I am going to get the G9x. I really like it, the deathadder didn't really have much to include and I love the 3 year warranty.

 

Excellent choice, its a top notch mouse, i am sure you will like it.

 

Thanks for all your help guys!

 

New question in OP. Does anyone know a good gaming mouse pad that is relatively cheap?

 

There are two main types of gaming mouse pad.
1. Hard pads - Hard like the table but gives a smoother glide
2. Soft pads - Like most generic mouse mat that is spongy but surface is usually smoother for gaming purposes but still less glide than a hard gaming pad.

Different gamers prefer different mats, there is no better or worse, you have to try it out for yourself. I prefer the less friction glide of a hard mouse mat, i use a Razer eXactmat, i have been loving it since i bought it the first day.

 

The mats I have had are not really gaming pads, the one at school I use is spongy and doesn't glide much, but I feel like a spongy pad would be easier to travel around with (but then again so could a hard one). I use a hard pad at home so I have no clue what I should be looking for.

Any recommendations for both?

 

In my experience hard and soft mouse mats give fairly standard performance across the board. Hard mats tend to glide a bit better, but soft mats and textured mats provide slightly more precision. Just pick a size you are comfortable using; Razer and Steelseries each offer a lot of choices.

Buy Razer Mouse Mats - Gaming Mouse Mats | Official Razer? Store
SteelSeries – Surfaces

 

i have the g500 and i really like it,lots of extra buttons to set hotkeys, adjustable weights, and best of all i like the size and claw grip

 

The G500 is not a claw grip mouse... It is a palm grip. The G9x is a true claw grip...

 

When it comes to mouse mats, I will always use hard pads. They are much easier to clean, and the mouse moves much more freely. Just be sure to clean the teflon feet of your mouse occasionally with a pencil eraser from time to time.

Cloth mouse pads, or pads that are made from a synthetic cloth-like material I really don't like. They tend to add un-neccessary thickness to the mouse pad itself which doesn't bode well as far as ergonomics are concerned. Cloth pads also wear poorly, as you will replace a cloth pad far more frequently than a hard pad.

In any event, I would recommend taking a look at what Func Industries has to offer. I've been using their pads for years and never had a single problem with them. I'm currently using an Archetype and absolutely love it.

Check them out: Func Industries

And +rep for a great question!

 

If you're travelling, a Razer Kabuto might be the way to go. It's a soft mat, rolls up easily and is a decent size. Also relatively cheap too.

 

In more ways than one.

 

But the G9x can also be palm correct?

 

yes relatively cheap mouse pad are what I am looking for. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

Not very effectively; that's one of the reasons I replaced my G9. None of the grips were very natural for my palm grip; even the wide-load grip was too short to effectively palm it. The ID grip was better, but then again that's a $20 extra that is not included with the mouse itself.

Check out the Vespula; it's lightweight, but rigid plastic, so you'll have a consistent surface everywhere you go, unlike the Kabuto, which relies on the flatness of the surface you lay it on. It's also got two sides, a smooth Speed side and a more heavily textured Control side.

 

Yes, but the grips aren't as comfortable for a true palm-grip than the G500 and the G700... (I owned and used all three so I know! )

 

well I don't know, I finally decided to tell you guys what mouse I am currently using.

Optical Mouse USB

this doesn't have any grips on it and I palm it. I saw the G500 and G700 at best buy and it is really bulky, so idk its hard for me to throw away the G9x

 

You should go with what feels comfortable to you, if you find the G500 and G700 bulky, then maybe the g9x would suit you, i bought the alienware tactx knowing its for claw grip, and i had a 50% discount on it, but i have been palming it ever since and find it extremely comfortable and smaller mouse gives that perfect balance of control and speed. Unless you have really large hands, your fingertips going over the left and right click then you probably cant palm the g9x. But i can safely assume 80% of people can palm it (no stats, just guesstimation).

The g9x performance specs and little amount of reported problems totally destroys most Razer mice you can get. Dont bother getting a ambidexterous mouse, they are the most uncomfortable you can get (especially razers). I really like the deathadder though, one razer mouse i do have respect for, i use it all the time when my mates and I go for lan parties.

 

thanks a lot for this, + rep

my hands are large but instead of my fingers falling to the back, my wrist kinda just sits there.

 

Find a piece of marble. Wrap it in wax paper. Tape the ends. And there you go, a perfectly working mouse pad.

If you want something cooler though, I would suggest that you look up problems with your mouse on mousepads. I'm not sure what mouse you are using, but quite a few of them have strange problems, like not being able to be used on a black mousepad. You should just make sure you don't have any of these problems.

 

g700 power!

As being a palmer.. ughhh man, can't say any more. Best mouse I've ever used in my life. Whole hand just rests on it, fits perfectly on your hand. Four side buttons to set binds in. Tracking, amazing. Overall? Amazing.

g9x if the g700 is truely "too big" to use :rolleyes2:

I've had the orochi for a couple months last summer before it died and got the g700. That's an ambidextrous mouse, it's also tiny. Very small platform. It makes the g700 and mamba look like a monster.

Up to you though. If you absolutely can not use the g700 because of it's size, the g9x would be an ideal next choice.

 

thanks

everyone is different mr rollyeyes

 

hahaha awesome