Introducing the EUROCOM 780W Notebook AC Adapter (Clevo & MSI Ready)

If you have been around high performance notebooks for a while, then you are no stranger to the classic 330W AC adapter that has been used for a long time by Clevo, Alienware, and more recently, MSI. If you are among the crazy dual-GPU monsterbook lovers, you have even been using two of those for a while now. Using a dual 330W AC adapter has always been kind of cool because it is unique and carries a shock value to it. The first-time looks on the faces of the uninitiated has always been priceless.

After a while, the awesomeness starts to wear off and you use that dual adapter setup just because you have to. You need the power to get the job done. Some of you know from personal experience exactly what I am talking about. The bulk and clutter is unaesthetic on a desk. If you are a frequent traveler, carrying two of those 330W bricks and the converter box to join them is not going to win any prizes for convenience in spite of the excellent functionality.

Thankfully, there is a company out there that actually listens, cares, and shares our view as enthusiasts, and they have been paying attention.

A little more than a year ago, I heard that Eurocom was developing a single-brick AC adapter more powerful than the famous Clevo dual 330W setup and I was instantly excited about that. For as long as I have known the team at Eurocom, they have been at the forefront of innovation. In a niche where high performance notebook enthusiasts are frequently screwed by mediocre offerings and end up having to settle for something less than satisfying in a notebook, Eurocom is always there as our advocate with Intel and NVIDIA and Clevo. Their contempt for wimpy turdbooks is a shared value that is unmatched among their peer group. And, for good reason. They cater to a demanding clientele that expects something better than the status quo trash.

Well, fast-forward… That day has finally come and it is with great pleasure that I have the honor of showing you Eurocom’s latest creation. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, feast your eyes on the most powerful AC adapter on the planet.

Those of you that saw my unboxing and initial review video on the EUROCOM Tornado F5 already caught a glimpse of this bad boy. I was as excited to see this AC adapter as I was the awesome little 15-inch beast notebook.

You may be asking yourself why I am so excited, so let me stop the wall of text now and show you.

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As you can see from the video, the pre-production unit I have uses a hard-wired output cable. In case you did not hear it in the video, this product supports all Clevo and MSI notebooks that use the four-conductor DIN-type connector. With plans to offer a variety of removable cords with different connections at the laptop end, this product has potential to become an item of interest for all high performance notebook owners.The production unit also uses different firmware for the LCD, which spaces out the text in a slightly neater format.

So, what's the bottom line, Mr. Fox? Here's my take...

The 780W AC adapter brings an unprecedented level of convenience to owners of large desktop replacement notebooks that would normally require two 330W AC adapters. Whether the customer is a traveler that benefits by having one less item to lug around in their backpack or briefcase—two less items if you count the AC-100 adapter—or a customer that uses their laptop in the same place every day, the reduction in clutter and weight are things that are easy to appreciate.

For those that care about all the gory details, below are the specs as published on Eurocom's web site.

Physical Characteristics

• 12.8” / 325mm Length
• 4.3” / 110mm Width
• 1.5” / 40mm Height
• 72.9” / 1854mm Cable Length
• Total weight: 3.05 lbs / 1.38 kg

Vital Specifications

• Rated Output Power:780 Watts

Input Voltage & Frequency

• The range of input voltage is from 90Vac to 264Vac.
• Input Frequency 63Hz 50/60 Hz 47Hz

Input Current

• The maximum input current is 10A at AC Input 100Vac/60Hz.

Inrush Current

• The inrush current will not exceed 100A at 230Vac/63Hz AC input for a cold start at 25℃.

Power Factor

• The Power supply power factor at full load operation shall be more than 0.9 at 230V ac input.

Efficiency

• The efficiency (watts out / watts in) higher than 90% typically while measuring at nominal line and maximum load.

Output Requirements - Static Load

• Output Voltage: 20Vdc
• Minimum Load: 0A
• Maximum Load: 39A
• Peak Load 45A (duration Time 25ms)
• Line Regulation 2%
• Load Regulation: ±5%
• Voltage Accuracy: Min 19V Max 21V
• Ripple & Noise(*) 200mVp-p

If you enjoy wasting paper and printer ink and want a brochure you can print out, or a PDF you can look at offline, you can download that from this link.

If you have seen enough and want to order one, you can do so at the link below.

Order: EUROCOM 780W AC Adapter

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@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Phoenix @Prema @Papusan @TBoneSan @bloodhawk @GTVEVO @ssj92 @D2 Ultima @Ted@HIDevolution @Donald@HIDevolution @Eurocom Support @Zoltan@HIDevolution @thattechgirl_viv @Trafficante @Swick1981

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Oooo. This is gonna be good.

 

Price?

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Nooo. Now i want one.

 

Ordered mine a few months ago, can't wait. What's the highest power draw you've gotten out of it?

 

About the most I have seen from the P870DM3 is in the neighborhood of 575W, with a few random spikes of +600W. Once the @Prema vBIOS is released, I think that will probably go up by 100W-125W, maybe even more.

 

All seriousness though, the build quality looks sturdy.

 

Nice! Let's embed that.


Yeah, it's a really awesome product. Eurocom did an amazing job on this.

 

Holy moly, this adapter alone is more capacious and massive than some complete notebooks... More power to the people (literally in this case), I suppose

Now, if only they'd miniaturise some of their components into the nice SFX form factor. This is quite a bit bigger than SFX, and I'm sure they can shave off some 20-30% of volume and weight.

 

Good lord, the most I ever did was 301w with 780m sli and 4700qm. 2HDs and 2 msata SSD with screen at full brightness.

 

Wow that thing is monstrous . Although, I guess when I think about it, any notebook that requires this much power will likely be fairly large, so I guess it's only proper to have an appropriately sized power supply... Don't want a monster truck with little dinky wheel you know

 

When I was testing the 180W 980 SLI in the EUROCOM Sky X9 with @Prema we were pulling over 700W from that bad boy.

 

Good lord again, I hit my record with a Clevo p370sm3, I have since upgraded that to 970m sli and the power dropped to 270-280w. I now have the Eurocom F5 and draw less than 210w, I'm guessing.

 

What advantages does this have over the standard 330W adapter?

 

i don't understand your question? Do you mean in comparing a single brick 330 watt power supply vs the 780 watt power brick from Eurocom? There isn't a comparison. If you only have needs for a single power supply, then you probably wouldn't need to consider this unit... Maybe for the cool LCD display?LOL

No. This unit would be used in laptops (SLI or extreme over clocked units) where they draw more than 330watts of juice. Before this solution, the only way to generate that 1.21 'jiggawatts' was to buy a second unit + adapter and run the two in parallel.

 

I don't know about that... it's barely bigger than the standard 330W brick, and I've never seen a notebook at that size. Taller, bulkier? Maybe.

 

I was talking about the entire volume and the mass. Given @Mr. Fox's specs, the adapter occupies 1430 cm^3 (more than a litre) and weighs 1.38kg, which is certainly more space than, say, a MacBook Pro 13" (962 cm^3, 1.37 kg).

 

I suppose, though considering its similar size to the 330W brick I don't see how it's THAT bad. It's most certainly well under the size/weight of the double brick solution.

 

I've never actually seen a power adapter larger than 180 W, so I've no idea what that would look like. Cable and box spaghetti, probably. As I said, I have an SFX power supply for my home server (Corsair's SF450 and 600 series have had raving reviews on JohnnyGuru), and it's tiny, even more so when compared to a full-fledged ATX PSU. Admittedly they deliver less power than this bigarse thing, but this notebook adapter literally only needs, at the barest minimum, to function as three things, in this order: a step-down transformer, a full-wave rectifier, and a filter to smooth the rectified current.

Obviously there's a lot of extra circuitry and electronics going into temperature/current monitoring, fine ripple smoothing, the various electrical safety protection mechanisms, and the LCD display, of course. But on a PC PSU, there are lots more outputs, a lot more variables to account for. On the notebook, we can be sure that the power outlet will always dispense a certain, fixed voltage, with a varying amount of current only, also up to a certain limit. Hence I think this can be made smaller and lighter.

 

Even a remote resemblance to a MacBook in any fashion would be undesirable. It, and anything else in a similar form factor, is the antithesis of high performance computing. It was not designed for performance. A Peterbilt is larger than a Mazda Miata, but there is no connection between them. Unless the Peterbilt is hauling a half dozen of them, but that association is only temporary.

 

780W being under double the size of the 180W is rather impressive to me. I can realistically see 500W+ being used for some gaming scenarios by users of the P870DM3-class notebooks, so 600W+ is indeed required. 780W just allows for excess overclocking and such to happen, as well as being a safety net for spikes, which I'm more than happy with.

If the functionality would be compromised by making the thing smaller, I wouldn't want it to be smaller.

 

Niceeeeee I want one.

 

WTF IS THIS TIME TO BUY

 

I just that I feel a power supply with more than a litre capacity is really pushing it, especially for a notebook.

Honestly speaking, if they could stuff all that performance into a more-reasonably-sized power adapter, wouldn't you buy it?

As you're probably aware, I generally like small, efficient electronics rather than big, loud and less efficient ones.

shrug

 

When I switch to clevo I'm sure I will buy one 780W

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A dream come true for my Panther 5 ....gotta have one of these....

 

If they COULD shove it (without losing function) into a smaller capacity, I think they would have. As it stands though, it's slightly bigger than one of the bricks we normally need to use two of, AND provides more power. So I think we're pretty good with what we have. Of course for the majority of notebooks this won't be necessary. But for where it is... hehehe.

 

The only thing that would have been possible is to reduce the height. But this would come at the expense of the fans and less cooling. The design of this new 780w psu is close up to perfect The length can be reduced, but at the expense of bigger height. A good Desktop PSU is shorter but higher. This is also not wanted

Edit: One question. Is this magnificent PSU made by a reputable manufacturer? I don't ask here about the name, as this is a corporate secret.

 

yes, that's what I thought about it.

 

I watched the video from Mr Fox, a bit of clarification to explain a difference in numbers on wattage.

The UPS is indicating the total AC power being drawn from the power supply and laptop combined.

The display on the power supply is the total DC power being drawn from the laptop.

The power supply is of a design known as a "switching supply". They convert the incoming AC voltage directly in to DC voltage and then use an oscillator running at a high frequency and a step-down transformer to convert that to a much lower level. Then a bridge rectifier (diodes) and capacitors with a few inductors convert that low voltage DC back in to around 20 volts DC.

Switching supplies are very efficient (high 95-99%) and less power is lost due to heat than a linear supply (that can be as low as 30% efficient). Still, the watts in will not match the watts out.

Do not worry too much if the UPS reports 510 watts and the power supply reports 470 watts. That is pretty normal and if you divide the numbers against each other you will find that the efficiency % is very high. Those watts difference are actually lost as heat and RF noise in the switching supply.

Really, that is just about the ony disadvantage of a switching power supply, they do generate high frequency RFI and EMI (radio frequency and electromagnetic interference). If you look at the ripple voltage I recall that it was somewhere around 200 millivolts. In a design with more capacitors and inductors that number could be lowered (down to 20-50 mV) but it would make the supply physically bigger and require a higher peak inrush current when the supply starts up.

Those lumpy knots on the power cord are actually ferrite inductors that oppose the passage of high frequency noise to the laptop. They are not perfect but better than just a straight piece of wire.

 

If it had been possible(I don't say this is impossible) so could the psu display also read/show max power pulled from the wall. @Mr. Fox, me and some others enjoy highest possible numbers in all ways Bigger the better, said...

 

Nice brick! Any ETA and pricing? Just saw it. Well, I wont be getting it anytime soon. Amazing work none the less!

BTW (IMO) It would've been better if the LCD is on the top, since i put my bricks on the floor. I understand that it would ruin the clean look, but hey - function over form

 

I was thinking the same thing, most of the time I'm looking down at an adapter if I'm looking at it at all.

 

Based on how I use my AC adapters, the front panel is better. I would not like having it on top as much because I would not be able to read it most of the time.

Added new video to opening post/review.

 

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Same. Having a display there would definitely get my attention from time to time. That's like the whole point of shelling 500 bucks... well not really

It's using ribbon cable, so it wont be hard to move it. As an added bonus it would improve the airflow. Of course that's IF I get one. Let's get the hell out of the VooDoo 350W first

 

Awesome video, thanks for making it, that's a really slick power supply.

Do you think you could test against other laptops, like the MSI 16L13 and if you have access a GT73VR / GT83VR / etc ?

It would be fun to see how much more power they can / will draw vs. their stock PSU's

 

$10.00 bucks says @Mr. Fox will use 2 of these to power the next generation of video cards, 1180s or 1280 ti or what ever they're called. He had 4 of the 330's tied together to power a Beast him and @Prema were working on not long ago.

 

I'm SERIOUSLY not being a smart ass, and mean absolutely zero disrespect, but I thought it was hilarious that this was posted on a @Mr. Fox thread. I nearly fell over laughing. Long live the bulky power hungry DTR

 

If AW ceo Mr. Azor had seen this nice powerful 780W psu, he would certainly be reminded that it was he himself, who has the primary responsibility for crippling last decent model from the AW history. Aka the famous power cap for AW18.

 

Unless you are rocking an unrestricted BIOS, I doubt that there would be any change.

 

Thanks for posting that!

 

@Eurocom Support @EurocomTechspert - send one of these to Jonnyguru if you really want to call it "high quality"

 

As funny as this sounds, I hope the next revision of this thing has a Kensington lock. Also, Re-settable Switch/Fuse & 80 Plus Titanium certification/design would be awesome!

 

Eurocom Launches 780W AC/DC Adapter For High Performance Laptops
"Strong laptops need powerful power bricks, and Eurocom's new AC/DC adapter is able to offer up to 780W of power, which will be enough for every laptop out there"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/eurocom-launches-780w-laptop-adapter,33615.html

 

We can only hope, but in that form factor, I'd say we're going to get baby steps first.

 

I'd say don't be an early adopter.

 

That too. Always hold off until gen 2 of anything.

 

IDK, I've had some pretty awesome experiences with Gen 1 hardware of many types.

Sometimes Gen 2 and beyond get "optimized", detuned, and become "cost efficient" while the price goes up.

It's can be a tough call, but this power supply looks pretty darned bullet proof, like a solid scientific lab bench supply.

 

Well, knowing Eurocom I really hope that they don't do that.



Though I have exactly 0 interest whatsoever in this PSU or a even possibly a Gen 2 if Jonnyguru doesn't get a review sample.