Logitech v400 news (get in here Cori)

Well, I returned the V400 to Staples, but my second V400 from eBay arrived today. I gotta say, this eBay one is much, much better at tracking - it's like night and day. The eBay V400 is orange/grey as was the Staples one. This one didn't come with packaging though (so I don't know about the tuned sticker dealio). I still think this V400 is not as sensitive as say my Microsoft Wireless Notebook Mouse was, but it's close enough that I'll try and use it 'cause it's "acceptable". I've been using it off and on for a few hours. and although it takes some getting used to, it's "OK".

However, hardly a great mouse and I would definately not reccomend it based on my own miss/hit experience. If this eBay V400 is the "best" of the V400s at trackin', then it feels more like a step back than forward in mouse technology.

Still boo logitech!

Edit: Spelling

 

it works okay on my bed, definitely not something I could game with. doesn't want to work at all on any black surface. why couldn't they have just put the G5 laser in there?

 

Anyone got V450? does it track better than V400???

 

I don't think it's released yet. It looks strangely like the MS Wireless Laser 6000....

 

bought it yesterday its pretty darn nice, its like the smaller version of the g5s but with less features
so for no complaints but ive only used it for like an hour.

 

Where did you buy it? Amazon site said "Not yet released" yesterday...

 

I just bought a "tuned" V400 from Circut City about 30 minutes ago. Its tracking is amazing compared to my Microsoft Wireless Optical Blue mouse. It feels very solid, rugged, tough just like advertised. Ive been using this thing for about 10 minutes now and I dont think I will ever be able to go back to an optical mouse, let alone a ball mouse.

This is my first mouse to have more than the standar 2 buttons and wheel. I love the side buttons, forward and back at my finger tips is great. I would definitly recommend this thing.

Some of you are asking about the V450, they had that at circut city as well, and it was on a test display. I think the 400 feels better personally, plus the 2 extra buttons are a big selling point to me, along with the USB dongle storage bay.

The only thing that I think could be better is the wheel. It rolls fine, along with the sideways wheel buttons, but it takes alot more force to click the wheel down then I expected. Almost to a point where I wouldnt want to put that much pressure on it in the fear of breaking the button on other mice. It feels solid, and its not like I feel like im breaking it by pushing it on this mouse. Its just takes more force then expected to push. Other than that minor detail, the thing is amazing.

[EDIT] I just tested it on a veriety of different surfaces to see how it tracked. Mousepad is good, obviously. Wood, as in coffee table/desk, great. Top of Black TV, seemless. Couch coushin/bed, great. It was spotty on our extreamly fluffy carpet, I mean the carped is about 3/4 and inch thick, and very very fluffy, so I didnt expect it to work at all, but it did a little. It tracked well on the screen of my LCD. Polished metal of desk lamp was good to go. Paper of multiple colors is fine. It also tracked well on the palm of my hand, on my shirt, and on my cargo shorts. The only place I couldnt get it to work was on the side of a half empty clear plastic water bottle. I know some of those were a little out of left field, but I wanted to give this thing a through testing on a variety of surfaces.

 

The V400 is the hardest mouse to find (from a brick and mortar standpoint). Must be a brand new model. Geesus! I live in the San Francisco Bay Area where there are electronics stores up the *ss. Since I bought my lappie, I have been to: Compusa, Circuit City, Fry's, Office Depot, Staples, Officemax, Best Buys, and NOBODY has the V400!!! Only one store even CARRIED the V400 and that was Circuit City and as of this writing (7/27) they were sold out. This must be the hottest mouse going around. I'll take another trip down to Fry's electronics today to try my luck. Don't really wanna pay $50 but I'm willing to take a gamble for a quality product. Gunning for the orange with the little sticker, wish me luck!

Steven

 

One big reason I'm buying Logitech that nobody has brought up is when you press the middle button you see a little picture of a circle with two small arrows inside, one pointing up, one pointing down. As you move your mouse up or down, the screen will scroll accordingly.

I bought a Microsoft 4000 wireless optical notebook mouse and they have completely removed this function. I also tried using the software for the 3000 and the 5000, thinking it was a software issue, but it's all the same. I refuse to use a mouse that can't allow me to scroll up and down like this. There is an option for an "autoscroll" which I assigned to the middle button, but it looks like Microsoft is resigned to forcing users to have the button arrangement that *they* best see fit.

I hope the Logitech V400 will continue to allow me to press the middle button to scroll through documents. If not, I'll just have to go with something else.

Steven

 

no idea, my MX1000 does not do that. what is wrong with using the wheel?

 

"What is wrong with using the wheel?"

I'm assuming you were referring to my post. If not, I'll go ahead an respond anyways. When I open up Firefox and the page is longer than the screen is long, the first thing I do is click on the middle mouse button and then move the mouse in a slightly downward motion. This causes the screen to slowwwwly scroll downward and I can see the rest of the page. I don't have to do any other mouse movements! The page will continue to scroll down by itself. This function works across other apps. For example, in Microsoft Word, if you click the middle button and move the mouse down, the page will scroll downward.

Why would I want to continually scroll the wheel when this is a step that is completely unnecessary? Besides, the wheel can be herky jerky and unpredictable depending on your mouse (see Microsoft Wireless Notebook Mouse 3000). If you simply press the middle mouse button, the screen will scroll smoothly guaranteed. The only question is whether it scrolls fast or slow, but it does either one smoooothly!

Steven

 

How long does the batery life last on this mice and is it hard to click on the back and forward buttons? Thanks

 

The battery life is rated at 6 months.

Steven

 

hey guys, considering getting this mouse since it's on sale at bestbuy and i'm in dire need of a good laptop mouse. just wondering how well the mouse would work on the surface of a blanket or a sofa?

thx

 

ah, OK. I personally don't like having stuff moving when I'm trying to read/look at it.

Anyway, as I said, my MX1000 defaults to middle button press being zoom. It can be assigned to either AutoScroll or Universal scroll, dunno if either of those are what you want. I would guess the V400 has the same options in Setpoint.

 

Well, I went to Frys after work to look for the V400 but they didn't have it and I bought the V450.

 

Hallelujah my prayers have been answered!!!! After driving to Dublin's Compusa and Circuit City, and coming up empty (yet again), I finally scored a Logitech V400 at the Fremont Circuit City. If you are like meh, and you want to make sure you get the V400 with the "Optimized Tuned" sticker by buying it brick and mortar, there is still one left! Supposedly there is also one near the Danville Circuit City, and one more in another Circuit City. That's a total of 3 that I count for the entire San Francisco Bay Area. Microcenter doesn't have it and neither does Silicon Valley Compucycle, nor does Fry's have it. I've been to 3 Compusa stores and none of them even carried it but I digress...on with the review!

Plugged it in and it took a few seconds, but Win XP recognized it. Didn't bother with the Setpoint drivers cause I use Firefox and some said it didn't work well with it.

The wheel works very well. It has the detents (indentations) which makes it significantly more accurate than smooth scrollers (see Microsoft Wireless Notebook Mouse 4000) when scrolling up and down pages. It isn't just a soft detent which you can barely feel which is characteristic of many of the newer logitech's but a fairly firm one (but not as firm as my MX510).

The body's design is cool, but not nearly as comfortable as my MX510. I like the Hummer inspired design (wish I had the orange). My thumb fits just underneath where the rubber rises (on the left side) but my fingers are on top of the rubber (on the right side). Not a big deal.

This mouse is supposed to be built rugged, but it is small, light, thin, and it's made of plastic. Doesn't feel any tougher than my Logitech MX510. The body is flat, and small. Haven't used it for any significant length of time. The fingers feel a lot more fatigued because I have to hold my hand in an arch to press the buttons.

Tracking: to answer oxi's question above, yes this mouse will track on unconventional surfaces. I just tested it out on the comforter on my bed. It works as well as could be expected for an irregular surface. I just checked the range which worked fine at 10+ feet. Any farther is pointless because I can't see my 12" laptop screen.

Many reviewers here have complained of the tracking saying that it is "so-so" or "ok". I feel the same. I will say one good thing about the tracking though.

If you lift your mouse about 3 millimeters above the surface of your mousepad. It will still track. In an ideal world, this isn't supposed to happen. When I lift my mouse above the pad (which I do frequently because my mousepad is VERY small) I don't want the cursor to keep tracking. There IS a reason I pick my mouse up. From this perspective, I really like the v400 (the mouse does continue to track when I lift it about 1-2mm above the mousepad, but it's still better than any other mouse I've used).

After using this mouse for 2 days now I feel differently than day 1. The size and shape really need improvement. I actually had a thought of returning it in favor of the original Microsoft Notebook wireless (slate color). This Microsoft Mouse is so darned ergonomic and comfortable you can use it as your regular desktop mouse (despite it's small size). In fact, my brother does just that! And he uses it to game too!

The original Microsoft Notebook mouse doesn't have the bells and whistles of the v400 which is why I'm still keeping my v400. Not to mention the fact that I practically broke my back trying to find one here in the SF Bay area.

Conclusion:

The Good:
- cool (hummer like) design
- left and right mouse clicks are responsive, light, and audible
- wheel has detents as well as left and right scrolling (good for Powerpoint users)
- laser tracking is so-so, but does work on unconventional surfaces
- range is outstanding at 10+ feet (supposed to work up to 30' which is good for presentations)
- unit is small and light using only 1 "AA" battery
- USB dongle is very slim and small, and well hidden/protected

Needs Improvement:
- poor ergonomics, lots of hand fatigue
- middle button doesn't make the "click" sound that the left and right mouse click buttons do sometimes leaving me wondering if it has been activated or not
- pricey
- thin plastic feel

Overall Opinion: this mouse is ok. Not the best. I think the original Microsoft Notebook wireless works the best in terms of basic performance. Unfortunately if I go that route, basic performance is all I will get. I still have time to return this thing so I'll be using it for the next couple weeks and doing further assessments.

Steven

 

If you have the smooth scroll on, you can read easily as the screen is scrolling downward. I do it all the time. I tried the Autoscroll feature and it did absolutely nothing in Firefox. Then I tried the Universal Scroll and it did what I tried to describe above in my review.

The Universal Scroll is new. It doesn't move the screen in a predetermined direction like the old middle button scroll command. When you activate the Universal scroll you see 4 little arrows: up, down, left, and right. When you move the mouse down, the page will move down accordingly. But it will stop when you stop moving your mouse. You have to keep moving your mouse if you want the page to keep scrolling. The movements are very herky jerky. The software needs refinement.

Steven

 

Mine lasts about 4-5 weeks, and I only use this mouse for 3-4 hours a day. I think the name brand batteries (like DuraCell) last a little longer, but didn't do any kind of scientific survery. It is only one battery, though, so I don't feel like it's draining a hole in my pocket quite that fast.

Forward/back buttons - interesting you should bring this up. They respond well and are very easy to locate by feel, but IMO the design is not optimal. They have a straight edge that can sometimes almost feel as if it is cutting into your finger. Most of the time it's unnoticeable. But sometimes my fingertips can get hypersensitive - probably poor circulation because of bad wrist position while typing - and then I find myself actually flinching when I press the forward/back buttons. At those times, the sharp edges are noticeable. Not sure why they are designed this way instead of with a rounded edge.

But this is a very minor issue and probably only someone with repetitive stress injury issues would even understand what I am describing. It would certainly not prevent me from recommending this mouse.

 

It will work on fabric but not so well when the fabric is on a soft base - i.e., pillow, quilt, etc. Works fine when it is on a fabric that is pulled tight and covering a firm base - tucked-in sheet, upholstery (couch or chair).

 

Hi guys,

I don't know about all of you. But I've come here to warn you about buying this mouse.

I own the Logitech V500 which I was hoping to replace with the V400.

The V400 is one of the best notebook mouse ever designed...on paper at least.

But it turned out to be the biggest joke.

As my country doesn't support returns, I'm stuck with this lemon.

The tracking is unacceptable. The mouse is clearly worse than older LED tracking.

I have tested the V400 against the V500 and Microsoft's notebook mouse 6000.

They all performed better on all surfaces.
I am very sensitive to mice tracking so I was quite excited about the marketing ploy by Logitech with regards to the dual lasers. I set all my mice to maximum sensitivity. (Basically, if I have to lift my hand up because one motion doesn't bring my cursor from one end of the screen to the other, it's not acceptible.)

Looking at the forums, I've seen that there may be some "tuned" ones for sale...but in any case, I'd like to share the problems with this mouse with you before anyone takes the plunge.

1) The dual lasers eat batteries. You will be piling through you batteries wondering why you never had such problems with your previous cordless mice. (I have 6 different cordless mice. This is the only one with such issues.
For your reference, they are listed
- Microsoft Desktop Cordless Mouse
- Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer Cordless
- Logitech Desktop Cordless MX700
- Logitech Mediaplay Cordless Mouse
- Logitech V500 Notebook Cordless Mouse
- Logitech V400 Notebook Cordless Mouse

2) The mouse goes into this ridiculous hibernation mode which SWITCHES OFF the whole mouse. What that means is you will have mouse clicks which do not register. (What is that kind of design?) Logitech's answer is that they had to do it because the lasers eat the batteries, but what has that got to do with switching the whole mouse off?

3) The tracking is by far the most ridiculous...The whole selling point of this mouse was based on the dual laser technology. But it turned out to be the biggest disaster Logitech ever created. As noted above, it performs horribly on all surfaces compared to other notebook cordless mice. What do you mean by horribly? The tracking skips some readings and the distance I need to move the cursor changes everytime. (I do not use mouse acceleration or 'pointer precision'. When I move the mouse 1 centimeter, I expect the cursor to move the same distance all the time.)

Logitech support suggests using a good mouse pad. (WHAT THE??? ISN'T THE WHOLE POINT OF ME BUYING THIS COOL DUAL LASER MOUSE TO GET RID OF THE MOUSE PAD?) Early generations of cordless mice (Yeah, I'm very much into mice and other peripherals. I went into cordless mice when they first appeared and toyed with optical mice in as early as 1990 when they still needed special optical pads to work.) had issues with lag. This is worse than the lag I experienced.

I would advise that you do not just trust my words.
Please take a look at several others who have been ripped off at Logitech's own official forums:

http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com...std_alp.php?p_new_search=1&p_search_text=v400

(Searches all V400 issues at Logitech forums)

I hope that none of you get ripped off. (Especially those from countres with no return policies...)

 

Just got this mouse a couple days ago at BestBuy for CAD$40 and I'm loving it.

I doubt this version is tuned but I still find the tracking to be great, given I'm not a pro-gamer and don't care about pin-point accuracy, but it's as good as any other mouse I've ever used. Still not sure about the battery, but it's been about 4 days and the battery still works. It's a bit smaller than normal mice and that may get annoying for some, but I'm used to a much smaller mouse so this is a significant improvement. The one place I found where it doesn't track is the leather sofa, tried using it on my bed and it works well (not good enough if your playing a FPS game though).

Definitely recommend this to anybody who needs a mouse on-the-go, but if you don't need the compact size, ability to track on different surfaces and the ability to store the receiver up it's rear then go for a bigger mouse.

 

whwtan could have made things easier for us if he could have told us if the V400 he purchased had a "tuned' sticker on it but oh well.

I've been suggesting to people to buy the V400 with the "Tuned...Optimized" sticker on the front. This sticker is on the very front of the packaging to the right of the words "V400 Laser Cordess". It is a reflective sticker, which emits kind of a multicolored rainbow hue.

whwtan's complaint is a BIG BIG reason why I refuse to purchase this mouse online. You see, if I purchase this mouse brick and mortar, then I can GUARANTEE that I will have the "tuned...optimized" sticker on the package. If you make your purchase online, god only knows what you're gonna get.

As far as your other complaints go, I already addressed them in my mini-review. The hibernation mode is not a big deal, buy the "tuned" version. It is much better.

Steven

 

Yeah I got the tuned version and have had none of these problems that people are stating. If its tuned, its a great, great mouse.

 

Hi Steven,

I thought my post implied that mine wasn't tuned. (As I noted that there were some people with "tuned" stickers...)

I'm going back to the store again to ask about getting a tuned one.
There are online shops which honour returns...it just doesn't really happen in Singapore.

This mouse is selling like hotcakes at the store.
The real problem is that most of the people who bought it aren't high precision mouse users so they wouldn't find out that the mouse performance contradicts the selling point of the mouse.

If they had sold the mouse telling me that it has lousier mouse tracking, (As opposed to the Philip Dual Laser "Better than ever" branding) I'd be responsible for shooting myself.

In any case, I still do not see how it has become the consumer's responsibility when Logitech was the one who created such a bad product.

A real shame...this mouse would have been the best notebook wireless mouse ever created. It has turned out to be such a disaster I've actually resorted to advising people to turn to Microsoft mice for now...

 

Hi Sheff,

I've called the shop again and asked them about the "tuned version".

They'll be calling Logitech in Singapore to find out about it.

I'll be updating it here in the future for other users who may want to buy or have bought the "un-tuned" version and do not know what to do about it.

 

I picked up an orange V400 in the second week it was available at Futureshop (Ontario, Canada). It was purchased specifically for DJing with a Gateway laptop.

So far, it has been very good. Still has the first battery in use.

Last weekend, I was at a marina near Pfefferlaw, and offered to play a bit of music for some line dance friends, using whatever sound system they had up there. Turned out to be an older Panasonic boombox, with a mic in. Plugged a cable into the mic in, turned down the level on my laptop, and it worked well.

The boom box was on top of a fridge. There were no tables, so I ended up setting my laptop on top of the fridge as well, in front of the boombox, and using the mouse on the SIDE of the fridge! Worked well. This was an old, white fridge, and the V400 worked just fine.

I did not get one with the "optimized" sticker. Anyone know where to find details as to exactly what is different?

The only issue I have is the shut off. Is it possible to control this at all? It is really an annoyance, not a problem, but it is distracting to have to move the mouse for a bit and watch for the pointer to appear, when you have other things you need to remain focused on.

Even if I drain a battery in an evening, that would be acceptable, since it becomes part of the expense of providing a serice, which can be built into your rates, and expenses. Besides, one battery (when purchased in bulk) is not a horrible expense. One battery a day at home would be totally unacceptable, but this is a different situation.

 

Sorry, but I have to disagree with this.

There are limitations and quirks to my orange V400, which did NOT have an Optimized sticker. However, it is not a ripoff or a bad product.

The power off is annoying, not a problem, as far as I can see.

Tracking is....interesting. It actually works better on desktops than on my mouse pad! I have some surfaces where it works better than the V510 it replaced (I used both for a couple of weeks for comparison), and others where the V510 works but the V400 is blind. Accuracy is acceptable, as long as it is on a surface it likes.

Battery life is not something I can comment on - it spends most of it's life with the dongle plugged into the mouse, since it is used for DJing. I still have the first battery. Not a fair comparison to what most people do....but this is sold as a laptop mouse. Keep that in mind.

Ergonomics is the science of fitting products to people. People vary. What works for one hand may be horrible for another. That does not make it a bad product.

All in all, I am very happy with my mouse. I am looking at getting a second one, for my girlfriend, since her corded mouse is constantly having stuff piled onto the cord and annoying her. The size of the V400 should fit her hand well, and getting a cordless mouse might be easier than trying to get her to change her work habbits. <smile>

 

is this ambidextrous? Hows the size?

 

Logitech V400 Laser Cordless Notebook Mouse - $4.98 AR AC @ Staples, Starts 8/20 check out the deal at Notebook & Tech Bargains

 

stevenq

What do you think of the mouse now that you've had a couple weeks to use it? I'm planning to get the v400 to replace the regular desktop mouse mx610. I think the mx610 is just too heavy for me, making it heavy to pick up and move around precisely. Really makes my hand tired. The ergonomics of the mouse is only ok, as it wasn't the same exact shape as my old corded Mouseman Wheel Optical, which had a much better ergonomical design imo (but was starting to have some serious tracking/usb issues).


Anyway, would anybody who've used the mouse for about a month recommended getting this mouse to replace a desktop mouse? I'd been eyein this mouse since...well about since when this thread was started, and now that it's out, it's gotten some lackluster reviews, so I'm not too sure about it now...

As somebody mentioned before, I would get the original microsoft cordless optical, since I use it for my laptop and it's just so **** comfortable, battery life is very good, and tracking is good when on a desktop, but....I think I just need a couple more buttons for me to use it as a normal desktop mouse lol

 

Personally I would get the V450 as a desktop replacement mouse. It is much more comfortable than the V400, has rubber side grips, and has 1 year battery life. These attributes are very useful.

I would never use the V400 as my desktop replacement. To be honest I can't stand it. The profile/body is too low. When I compare the comfort of grip with my Logitech MV510 it's no contest. Also, many many people have complained of poor battery life with the V400.

As for the reason many people say "Oh, it's a Laser mouse, it must be the laser that is sucking up all the battery." I can't say for sure whether or not it's the Laser. I do know that in addition to the Laser, the Logitech V400 has an operation range of 30+ feet. Just think for one second here, don't you think it would require a lot of energy to be transmitting a signal 30+ feet continuously? For christ sakes, I just bought (and returned!) a Microsoft 4000 Laser Notebook mouse which had a range of about 3 feet. Most wireless notebook mice only transmit a short distance. I think this is where the V400's batteries are going, I don't think it has anything to do with the laser whatsoever.

There is one way to confirm my hypothesis. Logitech's V450 also has a Laser mechanism. If this mouse also has battery life problems, then you might be able to say, it is the Laser.

Steven

 

Yes your post implied that yours wasn't tuned, but you could also infer that perhaps you just didn't know whether yours was tuned or not. Many people have stated that they have no idea if their V400's were tuned or not because they don't know what to look for. I am the only person who had the nads to spell out what the "Tuned" sticker looks like and where to find it on the packaging. It only took 1 year and 90+ pages of messages before *I* finally described what the "Tuned" sticker looks like.

Steven

 

Agree with the poor tracking. My V400 does jump sometimes, annoying. However I will strongly disagree with your assessment of the forward and back buttons. If you measure the forward/back button with a ruler (the button to the left of the left mouse button) and I *have* measured it, you'll see that it measures out to 1 3/16". In other words, it's well over an inch long. How you wind up clicking both forward and back simulaneously I have no idea unless you're just intentionally clicking near the middle.

If you make even a half hearted effort to click the very top of the forward button, you will find that it is nowhere near, nowhere NEAR!...the back button. You have over 1/2" an inch of clearance between the top of the forward button and the very middle. That's plenty of space. And, VERY few people have complained of accidentally hitting the back button when pressing the forward button or vice versa.

Steven

 

Hi Steven,

The V450 doesn't use the Philips Dual Laser heavily advertised by Logitech for the V400.

Either way, I would agree with you that the laser sucking up the battery is quite a load of crap considering how they made the whole mouse power down instead of simply the laser. (I suffer from the "clicks don't register after idling a while" syndrome.)

Simply put...I had some people who aren't even picky about using their mice use the V400 for a while and they actually started complaining to me that "the mouse feels weird, it seems to respond in a funny manner"! (And I had them use the mouse without even telling them about the flaws I have noticed.)

Logitech's official reply to me in this country is to download the latest drivers. (They called it "new firmware".)

Wow...that's tech support for you.

I have officially wound up with a lemon.

After going to Logitech's official forums and asking their local tech support, that is the conclusion I have come to. (Can't they even replace our screwed up mice with the "tuned" ones? It's clearly a product fault and we paid our good money for it and had to spend so much time to find out that it's their problem.)

It is the prettiest mouse I have owned though...

 

Steven,

I wouldn't be surprised how many people wouldn't know about the "tuned" status.

Which country did you buy your mouse from? (I bought mine in Singapore)
I have asked Logitech over here. They don't even know what "Tuned V400" means.

I really appreciate your help in describing the sticker...If you didn't even help us by informing me about the sticker, I wouldn't even have any information to begin asking for solutions to my problems.

Logitech has provided the most ridiculous solutions so far.
- Use a different mouse pad. (The box itself claims that the mouse is far more compatible than any other previous mouse for different surfaces.)
- Use a stronger battery. (The same battery lasts forever on the V500)

 

A bit off here now, but has anybody tried the logitech LX7 mouse? It's got a similar feel to the microsoft cordless optical for notebooks, just a little bit more elongated, with 5 buttons. I checked it out today at Staples while also lookin at the v400 (which btw I'd have to agree with some people is a rather uncomfortable). I'm wondering if the two back/forward buttons behind the scroll wheel can be programmable, because after trying it out for a short while, I find that it's extremely comfortable. Only thing I'm concerned about is the weight of the two batteries and how it'll affect my mousing. That and if the back/forward buttons can be programmed to something else.

I didn't see the v450 on display in the store, but after looking at some pics it sure looks like it has the shape of the microsoft notebook mouse, which is a good thing. But unfortunately I don't know if I can live with just three buttons for my desktop mouse now that I've gotten so used to having at least 4 lol. Thanks for the suggestion though. Maybe if my notebook mouse died I could check that mouse out. That or just get the "hi-def" version of the same ms mouse.


My thoughts on the v400 just to keep this on topic lol:
- Profile is too low
- The back/forward buttons are actually kinda hard to get to for me
- Although symmetry is kept in the design, the rubber indentation for grip on the right side is way out of place for me, making it very uncomfortable for me to pick up (not just the positioning, but also the shape of the indentation). It's fine on the left side, but since there's no change on the right side, my ring/pinky fingers would no doubt get cramps from having to accomodate for the position of the grip all the time.

I also don't understand what Logitech's deal is with using the smooth rubber "gripping" material that they use on a lot of their latest mice. To me I find that it slips under my fingers rather easily and is not grippy at all. I noticed that the LX7 has a more grippy material similar to the ms mouse. Using a barely gripping position with my hands, I can lift the ms mouse with absolutely no slippage. However when I try to lift the MX610 all I get is smooth sliding. Given that the MX610 is also a bit heavier, but even when placing my wristpad on top of the ms mouse (which makes it slightly heavier than the MX610), I can still lift it with minimal slippage (it does slip slightly but is still a hell of a lot grippier than the MX610).


ok bet you're all tired of me talking about the ms mouse now but let's face it, the cordless microsoft optical is simply an awesome mouse lol. However, I don't like any of Microsoft's other mice.

 

Well I thought I've revive this thread....

Looks like logitech have released a new mouse, the VX Revolution

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/p...crid=2676,contentid=12140&ad=revolution_vxupp

some who have tried it made no mention of poor tracking, only to say it uses some new single laser sensor, and works very well for games.


Droolzz... Guess I'll be getting one of these when they come out.



insane

 

logitech removed the v400 off of their site..
This product ended up being a fiasco.
Later,

TSR

 

Well, at least it has very worthy successors - the v450 and the VX revolution are both excellent.
I have a VX revolution myself, and heartily recommend it with absolutely no reservations whatsoever to anyone looking for a notebook mouse.

 

I agree, I am doing a review of the VX Revolution, it will be up soon, but, it is a fantastic mouse.

 

Hopefully that'll teach them about involving themselves with "Let's Make Things Crappy" -Philips in the future.

Still, I've seen quite a few less than happy comments about VX too, and I'd be rather wary about getting one after this catastrophe without testing it first.

V450 on the other hand looks nice - at least if one can believe reviews, but V400 looked nice in reviews too. I wonder if the people writing about 'em actually ever use them, or does Logitech send them hand-picked cherries...

 

Just like Stewart Little this mouse broke my heart!

 

I still do enjoy the v400, the tracking is bad in some areas, but so far everywhere's I've gone it either works great or I just get a quick temporary fix, a piece of white paper and some tape.