3820TG Owner's Lounge - Part Two

I see, and also gathered after reading up a bit more on hybrid-HDs that they're not quite the good alternative I first thought (esp considering the even shorter lifespan than a conventional HDD).

My first question still remains, considering battery life, how much difference you 3820TG owners have experienced after swapping for an SSD.

Those disks probably wont come down to reasonable prices for another 2-3 years though... too bad!

 

My 3820Tg seems to be overheating when i play games (Hon) for a couple of hours and my fps starts dropping.. Is this a common problem? Is there any sollution?

Any app to see GPU temp and manually set GPU fan speed? I assume its the gpu thats overheating. I have been able to see my CPU temp and its around 80 when playing games.. Does this sound normal?

 

Maybe I'm coming across as super picky, but the company name is AUO, not AOU or AUI. You guys are mixing up the vowels!

 

If you guys were me would you??

A. Buy the 3820TG

B. Wait for something newer better to come out?

Thanks.

 

I would wait to see a few benchmarks on the Sony S series. Amazing build but a lower clocked graphics card and only one fan. They manage to squeeze in a dvd drive too! Check here for details Sony - Power in Motion: boost your productivity with new VAIO S Series : : News : Sony Europe Press Centre They're available in Europe at the moment....though I should say the models priced around the 3820 are with the 6470m

 

Typing on my new laptop! Took a while to reformat and install drivers and such, but I think everythings good now.

One question though: do people still undervolt their laptops? People used to do it with core 2 duos, but I've been out of the scene too long.

 

Core i can't undervolt for now..

 

Its not just a warning, it denies downloading by Windows Update at all. There is an official Microsoft KB article that it is not installing till the old driver is used.

On lowest brightness setting with wifi off, my laptop uses 5.9 W with a HDD. It means 11 hours on the 6 cell! What else do you want to underclock??? Just use the modded BIOS and the newest official drivers.

 

sorry for double post

 

I only remember seeing it in the Windows 7 SP1 knowledge base article that SP1 cannot be installed on systems with switchable graphics. No additional details were given. You should have noticed that if you have switchable graphics, SP1 does not appear in Windows Update.

 

Pfft computer died. Cannot boot into Windows because it says that the file /boot/BCD is missing with an error code of 0xc000000f, problem description being that "An error occurred while attempting to read boot configuration data." If I run Repair from my installation disk and in System Recovery Options, it says that it has detected problems and asks if I want to repair it. The items it wants to repair are: "

The following startup option will be repaired:
Name: {bootmgr}
Identifier: {9DEA862C-5CDD-4E70-ACC1-F32B344D4795}

The following startup options will be added:
Name: Windows 7 Ultimate (recovered)
Path: Windows
Windows Device: Partition=C: (476938MB)

Name: Windows Recovery Environment (recovered)
Path: Recovery\9426aa67-30ff-11e0-a348-506313b5e718\Winre.wim
Windows Device: Partition=C: (476938MB)

A copy of the current boot configuration data will be saved as C:\Boot\BCD.Backup.0002
"
If I click yes, it says that it cannot save the current settings for the BCD and refuses to continue. When I choose Startup Repair, it attempts to fix the problem but fails. The problem details are:

Root cause found:
No OS files found on disk.
Repair action: Partition table repair
Result: Failed. Error code: 0x3bc3

I think that this is because Startup Repair is trying to fix the thumbdrive that I keep my Windows 7 install files in. I am overseas now and as my computer does not have an internal optical disk drive and my external drive is back home, thus using my thumbdrive is the only way to access the repair console.

I tried running a few commands, namely:
bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot
bootrec /rebuildbcd

Fixmbr and fixboot work, but when I run RebuildBCD, it detects C:\Windows as having a Windows installation, but if I type Y(yes) or A(all), it says that the requested system device cannot be found.

Totally out of ideas. Just happened yesterday, turned off my computer without problems and when I turned it on, this happened. Somebody help

 

Your best bet would be:
1. take the hard drive out of the computer and look at it in an USB caddy with an other computer. save all the data from it, delete all the partitions and reinstall windows 7
2. reinstall windows 7 as it is now.

 

I'm overseas now and lack the tools to open it up
Also, it appears that C:\boot is totally missing from my computer, someone or something erased the entire boot configuration data store, so all the commands that fix the bcd will not work, apparently. I can verify that it is not a hard disk problem, chkdsk works fine.

 

It doesn't need to be in C:\, I'm almost sure its in the hidden "System Reserved" partition.

 

It should be in C, because the commands direct bcdedit to the c drive, and my hard disk is formatted into 1 partition, there are no system reserved partitions.

I am going to reinstall Windows since my computer has to be usable by Monday, seeing my important files being copied via a batch file loaded in cmd is kind of nostalgic, all the verbose text scrolling upwards

Thanks for your help zsero.

 

If you have booted by a recovery disk, you can copy Total Commander to a flash drive and start it from there. Thats what I use all the time, its simply just amazing. All of Total Commander's functionality works perfectly on a Win 7 Recovery disk.

BTW, having the system partition separate and hidden is not a bad idea, for reasons exactly like this.

 

Hi Guys,

I just registered to tell you my thanks for all the awesome posts regarding the 3820tg.

I bought mine 2 month ago and I'm still very impressed about it.

I thought i should also contribute something to this forum:

For all who have problem with the standard ALPS touchpad driver in firefox 4; here is a quick registry fix:
1) Open registry with regedit
2) Search for following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Alps\Apoint
3) Set ScrMethod to 1
4) Reboot

After that scrolling in FF4 should be possible.

PS: I heard that this option stresses the CPU a little bit more, but its fine for me.

 

That's sad, cause I even double checked before I made that post lol

That's a sexy notebook, but I wonder how much one would cost with a better GPU.

 

Don't worry. I'm in contact with Acer for a new AMD/Intel driver package for SP1.

Please open service tickets on the Acer site.

 

Ticket opened!

 

OK, I have rebuilt my system with a Vertex 2 and Win 7 SP1. The good news is that there is not a single driver we have to use now from the Acer's repository (you see my opinion about the VGA drivers in my signature).

I have collected some hard to find drivers and uploaded the important parts to to ifile.it. The others are really easy to find, like the Synaptics which you could download from the official site.

OK, the most important, the newest Launch Manager 4.0.18:
request download ticket | ifile.it

Atheros Wifi 9.2.0.310
request download ticket | ifile.it

Atheros Ethernet 1.0.0.36
request download ticket | ifile.it

Atheros Bluetooth 7.2.0.60
request download ticket | ifile.it

Soundcard, Webcam, Intel Turbo Boost:
included in the Win7 SP1 installer

Intel SATA driver:
download RST 9.6.0.1014 from Intel

Intel INF utility:
download latest from Intel

Synaptics:
download latest from Synaptics

These were all my drivers, everything else worked out of the box on Win7 SP1. Sorry, I cannot help with ALPS and Broadcom drivers, I only searched for the ones I have in my computer.

 

In one word....expensive! Its 1699 euro! If you sort by sony and 13-14 inch laptops here you get an idea Notebook > Notebooks

 

Which functions are new at the Launch Manager?

 

Just wanted to put this info here if it hasn't already been posted.

I'm sure I'm not the only one getting ticked off by the Play/Pause and Next/Previous Track buttons with LaunchManager installed. Before installing LM they worked like they're supposed to, i.e., didn't shuffle through playlists unless the media player was set to do so, but without LM it's difficult to enable/disable WiFi/BT. To get back the normal function of the media keys you just have to delete a few lines in "MMKEYBD.CFG".

1. Go to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Launch Manager" (or wherever you chose to install it).

2. Make a backup of "MMKEYBD.CFG".

3. Open "MMKEYBD.CFG" with notepad.

4. Delete the following lines:

Key #6 = 1,B3,22,1,1,F5F8,Play/Pause
Key #7 = 1,B2,24,1,1,F5F9,Stop
Key #8 = 1,B1,10,1,1,F5F6,Previous
Key #9 = 1,B0,19,1,1,F5F7,Next Track

The following lines might be missing unless you're running LM 4.0.18. But if you have them you should delete them.
Key #17 = 1,B3,00,0,0,F5F8,Play/Pause(RC)
Key #18 = 1,B2,00,0,0,F5F9,Stop(RC)
Key #19 = 1,B1,00,0,0,F5F6,Previous(RC)
Key #20 = 1,B0,00,0,0,F5F7,Next Track(RC)

5. I'm not sure if this step is necessary (didn't bother to find out), but set the proper "Key #" for the remaining lines, e.g., Key #10 will now be Key #6, Key #11 -> Key #7 etc. Also set the proper Key Count number (13 in my case).

6. Close and save "MMKEYBD.CFG".

7. Kill the ""LManager.exe" and "LMworker.exe" processes in task manager and then relaunch "LManager.exe" from the install directory.

The keys should now work properly.

 

if i play games on Akku with ATI overclocked to 700/900 and set powerplay to max performance my 3820tg goes into hibernate because of "Akku" but the akku is at 90%

doesnt provide the akku not enough power ????

 

Just wondering, how do you know which wlan driver to install? There were like 4 on the site. Does it matter? I think I ended up installing the broadcom one.

 

Can you use the 3820TG on your lap when on intel graphics or is too hot? If I get one I want to be able to use on my lap and I've seen some laptops too hot for that.

 

@ zsero

Where did you find all those updated drivers?

I usually go to LaptopVideo2Go Forums for Atheros WLAN and Synaptics Touchpad latest driver but the ones you have are even newer than those found on LaptopVideo2Go?

I also always check X-Drivers.com for latest drivers, i haven't checked there yet cause I don't have the laptop yet but I'm still trying hard to decide to get the 5820TG or wait for the 5750G (Sandy/GT 540m) or 5830TG (Probably too long of a wait in Canada for TimelineX Refresh).

 

Doesnt get very hot at all IMO
it is well known for its good cooling, Most of the time in general use my fan doesnt even turn on.

 

I don't think the Intel GPU's heat-spreader is connected to the main fan(s), only the ATI GPU and Intel CPU is connected to the fan via heat-pipe. This is on 4820TG/5820TG motherboards with ATI GPU, I'm not sure if this applies to the 3820TG cause it has two fans.

 

^Intel GPU is on the Intel CPU...

 

Oo. I thought the Sandy's were the ones with Integrated my bad. First Core i anything, so I'm still learning. I use Phenom X6 on my desktop.

What's the difference between GMA HD and Sandy's HD 3000?

 

I don't know it just works like before.

The way to find out all unknown drivers (in any computer) is to look for Hardware Ids in Device manager of the given device (it's under the Details tab). When you have the code, just Google the VID and PID part.

Its really not warm at all. It uses between 6 - 10 W on Intel, it cannot be hot. The hot gaming notebooks use up to 130 W, there is a huge difference here.

Of course Station Drivers. But the Launch Manager was the hardest one, it is from a newer Acer laptop.

 

Just tried. Works fine.

Thank you!

PS: Step 5 was necessary.

 

Is there any way of controlling what the P button does? Right now its program to switchable graphics but can i change to anything else? I have Launch Manager 4.0.18 installed. thx

 

Hi everybody!

Yesterday, I had the bad idea to test the battery life at max performance + GPU OC.
The battery lasted about 1 hour then the laptop shutted down without any notification.
Bad surprise, the battery doesn't work anymore. Windows says there is a battery, but not charging and it stays at 6%. The laptop won't start without AC power, so I suggest y'all not to try that lol.
I just hope, this is only the baterry that is broken and not the power controller that burnt.
If anybody has any tip, to figure out if it is the battery or how to fix that, that would be great, but I have no hope about that. I already ordered the 9-cell battery today.

Cheers

 

What's the best way to overclock the i5 450m? I have not done it before.

 

i have just ordered this laptop.

i was going to wait for the asus n43sn but its going to cost 50-100% more for 10-25% better cpu performance, and possibly only 5-10% better gpu performance. Not to mention its heavier, less mobile, probably will run hotter, and will probably have a louder fan. i don't even do anything cpu intensive, and if i overclock the 3820tg those limitations will become even less of an issue, perhaps even giving the 3820tg the advantage.

this silent but deadly acer will keep me very happy.

i did note asus are releasing a g53 at the end of the year with no glasses required 3d if it stays cool and quiet ( a big big thing for me) i will be looking to purchase one, perhaps in the next processor upgrade after sandy bridge.

or even better - if asus release a g33

 

Get setfsb from here SetFSB_HomePage and try the Asus G73JH clock gen. Click Get FSB. Im not sure how much of it will work in the freeware version. You have to get the shareware version by donating...its only small €5 or something. Thats the clock gen that works with mine but you may need a different one. If you contact the guy he will help you out.

 

Most of the 450s used the shareware SetFSB and OC'd quite well. If you are going to donate Abo san will email you and ask for a PLL diagnosis screenshot in SetFSB and a .txt printout from CPUz.

What is the mfg date of your 3820tg?

Bronsky

 

To the user who had a system crash and can't boot:
Sounds like you got a virus to me.

To the user who installed launch manager:
Whats new in the latest version?

 

Intel X25-M 120GB is on sale at CanadaComputers for $189.99. Is that a good price, or should I wait for something cheaper?

Anybody have any experiences with the Intel X25 drives? I've heard it's one of the top performing? Or should I stick with a vertex 2?

Does anybody know where I can get either for cheaper?

edit: my boot times are back to fluctuating, ranging from 60-140, to a few outliers in the 200's. -_- hoping an SSD can cure me of this nuisance.

 

Take the Intel.

The 200s seems to be with an update of any software or windows was creating a new bootlog for the boot optimization.

Sometimes the outlinings are based on attached hardware or an attached lan cable.

 

Yeah I'm thinking of taking the Intel - $189 seems like a lot, but I guess it's an SSD. You'd say that's a pretty fair price (mail-in rebate -_-)?

Also, I never have anything connected to my laptop. Literally, nothing.

 

I'm a german and I'm think, that is useless if we compares the prices

The Intel one is a good one.

 

Hey guys, just purchased a 3820TG-3022.

It's the i5-430M/ATI 5470 version and I believe it was one purchased from a Canadian Staples.

My question is that is the 4gb a single 4gb stick or two 2gb sticks? Thanks

 

It will be two 2GB sticks.

 

So apparently my scorpio black has a bad sector, chkdsk hangs at file verification stage, it should not take 12 hours to process one file. Have to wait 2 weeks before I go back to my home country to replace the drive, have to use my original drive for now

 

Hi,

or try the WD Inplace Replacement.

 

Just got Acers answer:

I checked it already but there is only a INTEL driver 8.15.10.2202 with upload-date: 2011/03/23
I guess that the AMD/Intel package with upload date: 2011/01/17 is not the right one.

Should i install the Intel only driver or will that disable the switch-functionality?