*5920G 8600m GT w/256 DDR3 Upgrade Question..

Has anyone installed the ASUS 256mb "DDR3" 8600m GT yet... The first link seems to have an accurate photo of it.. The other links seem to just have a generic photo. I wonder if it would work as is, or require a bios flash?? It looks like that the heat sink should line up just fine with the DDR3 memory chips.



http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=90-C1CIZA-HXBN00Z

http://www.interproshop.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=13943&czuid=1191436168818

http://www.directron.com/90c1cizahxbn0.html

 

Some claim it only work with C90 ,but i think V-BIOS Flash will work

BTW i really appreciate if someone can send C90 V-BIOS(8600M GT DDR2 & DDR3) copy to me

 

Glad to hear your thinking the same..

Perhaps our current VGA BIOS could just be flashed into it.. I know that older MXM type-II (non-directx-10) notebooks have no hope, as MXM-upgrade already tried it. But our ACER 5920G is pretty much of the same current santa rosa mold that the ASUS GS1 shares. Heck, it may even work just as is??

I may take the plunge and give it a try.. Worst comes to worst, i'll have to somehow compare the factory ACER to ASUS vga BIOS and see whats needs to be changed to make it work... Again, if anything at all??

 

So I guess you guys are gonna be the guinea pigs for the good of the other 5920G owners?

 

I will try to grab some Asus 8600M GT V-bios copy & compare it .BTW how much will it cost you? It's $270 here(with VAT)

lol...Sweet
BTW I think it will be a help to others

 

$254.00 shipped,

And yes, that would help "alot" if you could compare the BIOS of the two cards in advance.

 

is it really worth upgrading from ddr2 to ddr3

wouldnt getting the 512mb version be better instead in real world terms

 

Sure dude.I try to grab V-BIOS copy from C90 owner.Wanna search Asus page @ NBR forum

BTW $254 For DDR3 version is too much ..You can buy it for $239 + Free Shipping
NVIDIA 8600M GT 256MB GDDR3 Video Card for C90S Notebook

No DDR3 Version is better than DDR2 512MB version

 

>No DDR3 Version is better than DDR2 512MB version

I think bigspin really meant to say....

No, The DDR3 Version is better than the DDR2 512MB version

 

Ohh.....Yes!

There are no huge 3DMark score difference between 256MB & 512MB versions

 

Ouch, $256.44 for the ddr3 + shipping fees to Malaysia. Man, i don't know, seems like not a very good deal to me, i would rather save my money down can invest into my future desktop.

Still, for those who can use notebook only...

Anyway, the main advantage of ddr3 is it feature higher bandwidths and smaller chip footprints and will consume less power and generate less heat thus will be able to clock higher than ddr2. So, higher gpu clock vs higher gpu ram? Lol, very obvious.

 

$256.44? That's about RM700+ in Malaysia, I think I'll wait until after my warranty's void before upgrading it (IF it actually works after flashing VGA Bios)
The performance difference is supposedly by leaps and bounds.

I've O/C mine to score a generous amount of 4418 in 3Dmark06, though some guy managed to O/C his DDR3 8600m gt to get a score about 5200, give or take a few hundred.

Though even with the additional cost for the upgrade, it still costs less than the Asus G1s

 

Has anyone tried it yet? If it does work for the 5920G would it also work for the 7720G?

 

yes there are. 3dmark 2006 @ 1024x768 i get 6500 marks on xp. asus g1s.
570 core, 1276 shader and 810 mem. You will achive around 4900-5000 marks at the same clocks with the 512 version on the new 5920g models. there's a 1500 mark diference.

 

Maybe it's because the Asus G1s is the Gddr3 version? Bigspin was talking about if both versions were Gddr2, the difference wouldn't be that big as Gddr2 can't stream data that fast.

Most definitely that the Gddr3 version would smash the Gddr2 version of it..

 

Yeah... BigSpin was comparing the DDRII versions...

Any progress by the way Bigspin?

 

Sorry Pat! working on it.I'm bit busy with my Uni project

I'll update you after first week of December

 

wouldn't it be better to upgrade with a 8800m when it's available? I mean if those 8600m DDR3 chips are available now it wouldn't take that long.. Those 8800m chips gonna fit on the MXMII slot also right?

 

ah bah it's MXMIII

what about the 8700m GT?

I might try the ASUS chip then.. For the price; u can sell your old chip for like 100$ at least so the price is ok

 

Well? Does anyone have it? tried it? would it need a bios flash? ect????

 

The 8700m is MXM type III, so no, I don't think you can fit it in 5920g. The GDDR3 upgrade would prove very productive though. Just imagine the possibility of overclocking to gain a score of 5000+ in 3d mark 06 (resolution's 1280*800, of course).

That's like about 700 points more, and WITHOUT the driver crashing during certain intervals (rare, but it still kills the mood)

 

any tried this upgrade yet?

 

I ordered the asus card 8600m gt 256 ddr3 for my acer aspire 5920g.

It has to fit and will, and has to work correctly, no bios update/hacking is necessary.

MXM Type 2

MXM works like the PCX card in the PC. Just it is a notebook video card.

Notebook mainboard has the bios to work with the mxm cards.

MXM has its own bios to manage its components.

I will share my results with you when the card will be here.

 

Taril,

Good luck on your install. Let me know what you find.

I put the 512MB DDR2 version in my 7720; and I *did* have to flash the bios on the card with an Acer bios.

Where did you find an Acer bios for the ddr3 card? Or did you manage to get an acer version of the card?

 

7720 mainboard accept only MXM Type I.
8600m GT 512MB DDR2 is MXM Type II.
Of course you had problem.

 

Actually, the 7720 mainboard is MXM Type II.

I *have* a 8600M GT 512MB DDR2 in it and working fine. If the 7720 was MXM Type I, it wouldn't even work period.

The question was, have you been able to use the 256MB DDR3 version? And where did you get your bios file from?

 

Actually Acer Aspire 7720 only comes with 8600m GT DDR2 512 MB, mainboard accepts MYM II and I.

Aspire 7720Z only with 8400M GT, mainboard only accepts MXM Type I.

If you Have 7720, why did you have to change your vga? and why did you do a vga bios flash?

Tha card mamages DDR3 not the mainborad. Where did you get these technical informations? From ASUS or ACER?

 

Hi, could my 8600m GS 256 be upgraded to the GT DDr3 or even better?

 

My 7720-6395 came with the 8400M GT. It was most definitely MXM-II. Also, I have the service manual for the 7720 (thanks to someone else on this board) and it clearly shows that acer uses a single motherboard for the entire 7720 series.

You may want to do a search for the service manual and download it since it obviously has information in it that you will need.

If you put an 8600M GT into a 7720 that was not specifically made by Acer then it will not work. But you don't have to take my word for it; there are plenty of others here who have done this. Then there is the fact that you'll see for yourself when you plug a non-acer card into your machine and it doesn't work.

There is a V-BIOS on the card that is placed there by the manufacturer. You can aquire these BIOS files from the techpowerup site.

Since Acer does in fact make an 8600M GT (as you pointed out), it was a simple matter for me to download the bios to that and flash it into mine.

However, as of last Friday no one has a record of any Acer 8600M GT card with DDR3. So the big mystery is whether you can use the DDR2 BIOS on the DDR3 card. No one has tried to put a DDR3 card in a 7720 yet. Which is why I want to know if you have any success.

 

Definitely to the 512MB DDR2 version.

Taril says he has ordered the 256MB DDR3 version to place into a 5920.

As soon as he tells us whether it works or not; we will know if it can be done.

 

Good to know. We will see soon. (1 or 2 weeks, cause it comes from Taiwan)
So, be here to help if there would be any problem with it.
It could be a good chance to all who wanna upgrade MXM II card in notebooks.
Especially this: 90-C1CIZA-HXBN00Z
I have already modified my 8600m gs bios.
Is there any 8600M GT 256 DDR2 acer bios somewhere? Someone should grab his firmware .

 

Give me an email on PM and I will send You mine Acer 8600m GT 256MB DDR2 Ram bios file.

 

Use this link: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/

They have just about every bios for these cards that you can imagine.

If you find a version that is not up there, please upload it to them so everyone can benefit.

 

taril, so how did you video upgrade go???

If it worked, can you give us the link in taiwan that sells the card, as well as the price?

 

I will recieve it on this week.
Its from the ASUS main service center.

 

I am looking for this card (8600 GT 256) in the US, anyone have it???

 

How did it go Taril?

Did your card work?

 

Still waiting for it, but my dealer told me i will recieve it on friday.
I wont forget to post my results, but it would be worked without any problem.

 

how the upgrade go taril? did the card working now?

 

What about 8920G card?? Will it be possible to put it to 5920G?? ACER 8920G has Geforce 9650M GS which has ddr3 memory and it's acers video card so no Vbios mods will have to be done.

 

This will be interesting upgrade but i hope this will work.

 

Hi everyone!
We have to wait till middle of May. Asus has already started to reproduce this item.

 

Prof Jacko reviewed his 8920G and said that GF 9650M GS (512 DDR3) was MXM II type so it should fit to 5920G. Maybe someone would be able to check it.

 

How can I tell if my 512MB 8600M GT is DDR2 O DDR3?

I'm still using the stock card that came with my ACER 7720-6152

 

Acer has no 8600m with DDr3 mem, only with DDR2. Ive already checked them.

If 9640M is MXMII it will works with 5920g without any problem. But nvidia says its mxm III.

 

Im looking forward to the outcome of this!!:GEEK:

Ive been looking into upgrading my GPU and was gonna buy a 8600m GT 512 DDR2.

So have now decided to wait and see what comes of this!!

As the difference in the outcome is huge!!

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Acer Aspire 7720G
Intel T7300 Core 2 Duo @ 2.0Ghz
2Gb DDR2 Ram
8400m GS 256 GPU

 

can I ask a questions?
I have ACER 5920G 933G25MN , its have 8600M GT GDDR2. mainboard gbu is GDDR2 or GDDR3? so, can I use 8800GT GDDR3 on this notebook? (I'm sorry, I know a little english)

 

Hi Taril!
Did you already got the video card you ordered?
how does the upgrade goes?
please update us thanks!

 

I have upgrade my Aspire 5720G from 8400M GS to a 8600M GT. But where can I see if it is a DDR2 or DDR3 card?

Thx

 

Download GPU-Z utility & see yourself