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    6300 cooling

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by cyberdyne, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    Hi,

    • My 6300's Go 6100 GPU cannot be upgraded (MXM thread).
    • I'm suffering regular, no-warning, instant power-off's.
    • Getting the occasional Blue screen, all attributed (according to Win logs) to the nVidia graphics chip.
    • There are apparently no driver updates available for the Go 6100 - nVidia site.
    • Graphics failures at boot (although it does recover itself).

    Other than completely giving up and binning this monstrosity, would anyone have any other suggestions for cooling it down please?

    Currently (Piriform Speccy):
    • CPU - AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 83 °C
    • Motherboard - Acer Myallm (U1) 79 °C
    • Graphics - 256MB GeForce Go 6100 (Acer Incorporated [ALI]) 92 °C

    I'm considering drilling a few holes in the base of my case in order to get more airflow around the system and I've aslo bought a small fan setup which will sit under my laptop, but it's all a bit clunky and difficult to perch to the arm of my chair (too hot for my lap!).

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Simplified

    Simplified The Most Awesome

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    Those temps are really high!
    Do not drill holes in the pc, that will make things worse. Get a good laptop cooler and it will probably fix the issue.
    I use Zamlan nc2000 and it is GREAT!
    You should also spray the vents with compressed air to get rid of some dust.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you feel up to it:

    Take it apart.

    Remove the heatsink.

    Clean the heatsink with a can of compressed air.

    Wipe away old thermal paste (but keep any thermal pads)

    Appply fresh thermal pads.

    Drill holes if neccesary.

    If those don't work, bin it.
     
  4. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    How? The more air flow the better, surely. As long as they're narrow enough to not let anything substantial into the system, surely they can only help?

    Thanks for the recommendation, will look into it.

    Now I've always read this is bad practice and can actually force air into componenets, causing shorts.

    I have considered this and think I probably will.

    Yup! lol
    Thanks
     
  5. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    My recommendation would be to disassemble the laptop, clean the radiators and apply new high quality thermal paste.
    I can't remember if you could undervolt Turion 64 Mk36 but I suppose it's possible- I had a Turion 64 and RMClock worked.

    Best results would be achieved by thorough cleaning and new thermal paste.
    Undervolting CPU is just an added benefit if it works.
    Notebook cooler is also an added benefit however it with temperatures as high as yours it won't be enough on its own.

    EDIT: Apparently I type really slow :D
     
  6. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    Thanks again.
    One thing I have noticed; my fan never gets noisy. I guess I shouldn't complain but if it was working hard at any time, I'm sure I'd know it, but it never seems to.
     
  7. Simplified

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    If you want to drill holes, I recommend you to cover them with a net (or something silimar), or dust may enter the laptop and settle at strange places where you least want it to be.

    Another way to do this is to cut up a big "vent" at the bottom of the computer and cover it with a net. Note a net cover is needed if you want to stop strange things from getting in.
     
  8. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    OK, thanks for clarifying.
     
  9. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    OK, this was hard to open and take apart but got there eventually. Took her apart and removed a couple of dividers on the fan intake grill. Also cleaned the fan and heatsink up, they were pretty grubby with dust. I also noticed a paper/plastic coated patch covering every single fan intake hole!

    I'm now wondering if ACER want people to have problems with overheating!

    [​IMG]

    Granted, I've only been running the system again for 15 minutes, but I've had quite a few app's running and it already looks much better:

    CPU - AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 49 °C
    Motherboard - Acer Myallm (U1) 45 °C
    Graphics - 256MB GeForce Go 6100 (Acer Incorporated [ALI]) 59 °C

    I've also noticed the fan is spinning up and down (slow and faster) for the first time I can recall. Previously it was just one, constant - fairly low - speed.
     
  10. akbisw

    akbisw Notebook Consultant

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    acers got the worst cooling ever.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Hah, ok I made some extra vent holes but my stock cooler can now handle a 5730 overclocked by 38% and a Q9200 at 3ghz running 50% faster than the stock CPU did and keep the temps in games at 70C.

    Add in a 5850 and it can just about keep it under control.

    IMO that's not bad.
     
  12. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    CPU - AMD Turion 64 x 2 TL-60 46 °C
    Motherboard - Acer Myallm (U1) 45 °C
    Graphics - 256MB GeForce Go 6100 (Acer Incorporated [ALI]) 59 °C

    Upgrading to an AMD Turion 64 x 2 TL-60 with fresh thermal paste has reduced the CPU temp by a further 4 - 5C


    Thanks Meaker
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The drop in temps could also be:

    1. That chip is an excellent sample and only uses a small amount of power. It also has the lowest possible default voltage.
    2. Your old chip was 90nm, your new one is 65nm

    Interesting what your load temps are now.
     
  14. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    One thing I did notice was the chip just below the CPU - I'm assuming it was the GPU - had a purple-ish gooey substance on the top which had formed into a small bubble resembling chewing gum. I'm presuming this was thermal paste. What do you think?

    I didn't hang around to investigate as I was trying to sort the CPU out first and not let myself get distracted but am I assuming correctly?

    Thanks
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    Its thermal gum. Somewhere between pad and paste. Not great stuff to be honest. Bubbles are bad but its likely your NB chip.

    Probably why your graphics is a little hot.

    If it looks like paste would bridge the gap use that. Otherwise get a decent thermal pad.
     
  16. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for that, I'll try and get something this weekend.
     
  17. wlachan

    wlachan Notebook Guru

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    Not sure about your model but Acer did this to force air intake from different areas depend on the motherboard configurations. I have read some users removed those covers and the actual temperature could be worse because some parts of the motherboard didn't have enough airflow. Still, I feel Acer is simply inferior on cooling designs.
     
  18. cyberdyne

    cyberdyne Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for your reply, although for me personally, removing the covers has helped a great deal - as is apparent by my much lower temps.