6930G Temps.

I'm not really sure if I should be putting this here or make a specific thread in the gaming section to ask specifically about the GPU there.

Anyway, I am looking to find out what the average CPU and GPU temps of the 6930G people are seeing while gaming.

I noticed while playing certain games that my 6930G gets rather hot and while I know notebooks generally run hotter then a desktop I am not really sure if the temps I see are normal or not. I have not seen any real decrease in performance while gaming, nor have I had and other problems with the notebook. I am currently not running a notebook cooler but I will be purchasing one very shortly. The fans and vents are regularly cleaned out.

Here are some temps I am seeing using HW Monitor with my 6930G at idle and during gaming while room temp is 22*C,
Idle
-CPU=46*C
-GPU=55*C
Gaming
-CPU=85*C
-GPU=90*C sometimes hitting a max of 96*C for a second or two

Changing graphics setting in the game have no effect on temps I am seeing.

Oh and the video card in my 6930G is a 9600m GT 512mb GDDR3.

So are the temps I am seeing normal? What temps do you see while gaming with your 6930G?

Thanks in advance.

 

Your idling temps seem normal (same as mine) but my card is the 9600M GS and I get temps of around CPU 70C and GPU 75C on full load (i.e. Crysis for an hour on medium). My card had higher temps with the drivers that it came with. After I updated my drivers, I lost performance by .2 points on the Vista scale but also lost about 5-8C on the card. If you don't mind losing a little performance, you might update the drivers for it here: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ .
You would also want to avoid the nVidia audio drivers it tries to install automatically since it destroys your sound. (If you get those audio drivers on, I can show you how to uninstall them if you don't know how.) Since your CPU temps seem normal and the heatsink is shared between the CPU and GPU, I don't think it's dust. (But you can try to clear it with canned air) You might want to reapply a thermal pad to the GPU and see if that helps. My temps are probably a little misleading since I also elevate my laptop on an X-pad.

But I've rambled a bit much, In gaming, those temps are high and would have killed any of the old generation laptop cards such as the 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx nVidia cards over a decent period of time. Those are not normal IMO.

 

Thanks for the response.

I actually updated the nvidia drivers (didn't update audio drivers) a week or two ago and that gave no change in temps at all. Also the temps on both climb right away and reach the temps I posted above within the first 5 minutes give or take and stay that way throughout gaming. I have had this laptop for 6 or 7 months now and I only started looking at temps in the last 2 months, but I have been playing some of the same games since I got it and have actually played some of them for more then a few hours at a time with no issues other then it running hot. Example of the games I have been playing that cause the temps to get this high are, NFS Most Wanted, NFS Undercover, GTA4, Call of Juarez Bound in Blood and COD4. And like I stated in my above post, I can have settings all the way up or down and there wont be a change in temps.

 

same here around 79 ,80 while gaming and i have the 9600 GS

 

Use a vacuum, go to the back of your laptop casing. SUCK the DUST out.
But some said it is bad for the CPU fan due to it will force to fan to spin on opposite direction. I don't care it.
I vacuum it heavily XD, what I got is my CPU temperature drop about 3-5C and GPU temperature drop about 4C.

Room temperature does affect the CPU and GPU temperature.
But below 28C should be OK.

 

same here 70-80 while gaming

Room temperature 30+

 

OMG! Room temperature 30C++??
Are you staying in somewhere very hot like dessert?
My place is about 22-28C normal day(indoor), 28-34C normal day(out door).
If raining, it would be 20-22C(indoor), 16-20C(outdoor).

 

i'm in Egypt ( North africa ) we are in the summer so 35-40C (out door) so it's like 30 indoor ... no rain in the summer .. i'm far from the river,sea etc( my city was a desert like 50 years ago ) but now it isn't but we have a desert weather

sun rises from 6AM to 8PM . but it's cooler in the night

 

Hah my room right now is 30 deg C where I am now too (Grenada, West Indies). My 9500M GS only hits 70 though.

 

LOL! That is freaking hot. I have my GPU run below 70C with 20% overclock XD! This is the miracle of RMCLOCK undervolt my CPU. Unexpectedly, it affects the GPU temperature(I guess CPU temperature may affect the GPU, so when CPU cooler, GPU also cooler). So, I have a cooler GPU due to undervolted CPU.
All you need is undervolt on your CPU and I think your GPU would run cooler after that.

 

here is my temps at this moment and i'm just playing movies ( not HD ) for the past 2 hours ( it' 11:30PM now )



i'm afraid of undervolt my CPU i think this is risky ... don't know why .. but i'm kind of lazy to do all the steps

i'll try it and see what will happen

 

Undervolt = 100% safe
Overvolt for overclocking = 100% unsafe
They are contrast. Undervolt is harmless and very nice.
OK. About your screenshoot. It was good on GPU, HDD and so on I think.
Yet, the CPU a bit hot because you're watching movie only, it suppose to heat up moderately. But it is considered hot that you get 56C+5C(I think HWmonitor is reading wrongly try download real temp 3.0, and I add 5C for this reason)=61C
I have my CPU run max temp about 57-60C only when intense gaming(left 4 dead, grid and dmc4).

 

no , it shows the same temp ( maybe less )


i know Undervolt is safe but i'm too lazy to do it

my cpu hit 70+ C when intense gaming (left 4 dead, grid , crysis , GTA IV ..etc )

 

Look at your core speed on real temp. It is only 1197Mhz. It suppose to be about 2000Mhz. I think it is downclocked due to high temperature(throttle).

 

i think it's because i'm not using all of it , you see the load is just %3

 

here is the temp while playing GTA IV

 

Nope. I got my processor speed full.
I have 3.0% CPU load and 2095Mhz core speeds.
I think yours really throttle.
How to confirm it?
Turn on your laptop/restart it.
Turn on Real Temp, check the core speed value(must check and remember) and temperature(if u like).
Run Orthos or watever you think would increase your CPU temperature for 1 hour.
After 1 hour or something, check the Real Temp 's core speed value. If it is lowered mean THROTTLE.

 

ok i'll do this but what is Orthos ?


here screen shot after playing GTA for longer time

 

Your CPU temperature really high you see?
DIstance to TJmax = amount of temperature needed to completely blow up(it may shut itself down to prevent damage LOL but just in case sometime it malfunction then your laptop would burn to crisp) your laptop. Basically, I got about 40-60C on the distance to TJmax.

 

i see ,,, but i can't do anything .... it will blow up at 100c but thanks god it never goes to 80c
and after closing the game the Temps are 55c


i'll try to Undervolt it now

 

If it doesn't throttle even goes until 80C then it might be a good thing you know. Basically, our problem here was 57.5C or higher, the CPU would throttle. LOL.
You just need to vacuum your laptop(back) heavily.
The temperature would decrease with dust free.
Undervolting your CPU(optional, you may not using this if your laptop doesn't throttle at all and after your laptop is free of dust.)

My real temp screenshoot(normal state not gaming).

 

good temps ,, but i see our GPU is high

i'm running orthos for 6 min now but the core speed is always 1995MHz is this normal or what ? also the max temp is 72c

 

You should run it on the small ftt kind of stuffs and run it for at least 1 hour.
Then, I only can tell you.

N GF 9500MGS of mine is like permanent clocked to maximal state(which it won't downclock even it overheat or going to blow up) because I disabled PowerMizer which is used to control the GPU clockspeed and heat issues.
Anyway, GPU 58C as idle temperature with 20%overclock and maximal state all the time is awesome you know? I didn't apply any thermal paste to decrease temperature. My maximal temperature was about 70C for the GPU. Keep in mind it is overclocked 20% and stay at maximal state permanently(basically, other would downclock itself while not playing games to prolong the battery or power usage).

 

Actually youll fry everything as vacuums create static electricity..

 

WOW! I knew it is bad for the laptop.
But you point the static electricity out.
Mind explain in detail I would like to know it. XD!
+Rep

 

i'm trying the Undervolting thing .. but the lowest VID i can chose from is 0.925v ... will it make a different ?

i'm running orthos now and testing after the Undervolting , i should now wait and see


but why my max CPU speed is just 1995MHz while it should be 2GHz

and can't you overclock your GPU and allow it to downclock itself while not playing games ?

 

I can of course. But the PowerMizer randomly downclock my GPU if I overclock it more than 10%. Maybe the PowerMizer think the GPU clock is strange(overclock) compared to the original GPU clock. Then, it downclock it(to very low clock, about 50% of the original GPU clock) to prevent damage.

The CPU speed is 1995MHz and it is normal! Don't worry.
Every CPU speed would be minus 5MHz in real life.
For example:
It stated 3000Mhz, it is only 2995Mhz. The 5Mhz is like no different.

Gratz, 0.925V is considered very low VID and very rare to get. Usually, people do get 0.95V or higher. Yet. I saw people with 0.8XXV. This is awesome!

 

i'm running the orthos now after the undervolting to -> 0.925v ( the minimum ) and it has been running for 28 minutes now and the max temp is 65 (most of time it's on 63-64 )

i think the undervolting is working nice

 

Of course, a "standard and follow instruction undervolt" can lower the temperature about 5-10C.
If you want much cooler, try to clean the casing of your laptop(back part).
The processor part is the most dusty area.

 

from 74 to 65 is a great thing

my laptop is clean as it's new one , and i opened it to make sure

i hope it will stay like that ( 65 max ) while gaming

and soon i'll buy a high quality cooler and hope this will make a difference

 

Punch a hole(smaller than your laptop size of course) on a table/or a table with a lot of holes(small).
Put a table fan below the table and turn it on(adjust the fan speed, maximum?)
put your laptop on the table with a lot of holes. Enjoy~
Better than the BEST and MOST EXPENSIVE cooler in the market.

 

thank you very much , now after undervolting the max temp while playing GTA IV is 68c

and i can now make the CPU always on the max using RMClock easily

 

ROFL. WIN!

 

I have a problem in Acer 6930g... when I play game (Borderlands, wolfestain) temperature jump up to 90 C on my both cores and GPU! I don't know what to do... Sometimes my lap top just shut down instantly! please help... I suspect that thermal compound is dry from both processor and GPU, but still I need advice of people that have experience in this problems... BTW I using laptop for 14 month now.

 

Re: this is mi temp. when I playing winamp, and in background some more programs( AVG, Deamon tool, e Audio, laugh manager and acer bio protect)

 

The little fire symbols don't really mean your laptop is overheating but in all seriousness, those are high idle temps and your CPU P type shouldn't be able to reach that high (90C) if you maintain it. Get a can of air and clean the vents. As for reapplying the thermal paste for the CPU and GPU, I would recommend IC Diamond. The paste is a great way to lower the temps since on mine, half a year on stock paste gave me crunchy clay when I cleaned it. The paste for the GPU is easy to apply but if yours is like mine, the thermal pad for the vRAM will be dry too and it would help to replace those as well. As for the CPU........I'm not going to lie, it's not fun to clean that one. If you plan to fully clean it, you would have to disassemble the laptop to get a clear view of the underside of the heatpipe. You could always halfass it and clean it by pulling on the pipe and using a cotton swab with alcohol.

 

Yes I know that symbols don't mean it overheating. But still is high...
I buy Cooler Master thermal paste, I pay high price for it, hope it gonna work. About vRAM, do you mean Random Access memory, where to apply thermal paste on that one? I have some experience disassembling computers but still something can gone wrong, I read somewhere that guy clean his vent on laptop whit vacuum cleaner (?!)? Is this save thing to do? I already download guide how to disassemble Acer 6930g, but that is last option that I will use. The most annoying thing is that he shut down instantly...
thx for answer.

 

Yeah, about the vacuum that DarkSilver says to do... I personally wouldn't do it. Cleaning with a can of air from the inside and outside will do the same thing. And if you have the same model as me, then if you open it up, you will see a square card on the right when you flip it over. That's the GPU and vRAM are the chips on the card and it should currently have thermal pads on it. If they aren't dried up like mine were, then you can reuse them, otherwise, get some new ones. If you really don't want to disassemble it, then just use the method of picking up the heatsink slightly and waste a couple more cotton swabs to make sure it's clean.

 

I really appreciate that you reply on my stupid questions , this is first time that I have this problem. There just few things that I don't understand ( my English is on low level )...

"Cleaning with a can of air from the inside and outside will do the same thing."
what you mean by "cleaning whit can of air"?

"That's the GPU and vRAM are the chips on the card and it should currently have thermal pads on it. If they aren't dried up like mine were, then you can reuse them, otherwise, get some new ones."
Yes I know how GPU (square thing) look like. If you can explane it to my from "If" to "ones", I don't get it what I need new one, if what is dried up...
thx again...

 

For the first one,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_duster

Buy one somewhere to use it to get dust out of your system spraying from both the inside and outside of the vents.

And in the pic below, the thermal pads are those 2 rectangle pieces covering those total 4 vRAM modules on the left and bottom. If they are shrunken and don't connect with the heatsink after you remove the card and replace it, then you should change them. There is also the alternative of using a non-conductive paste to branch the gap but I think only IC Diamond can do that correctly. I personally don't use paste on the vRAM cause I clean with alcohol and I don't like the idea of dousing my vRAM modules with alcohol.

 

yes I get it now. thank you...

 

Anyone ever tried that ?

Whats the lowest level you can keep the CPU without fan ? I stopped after 75 C while it was on power save mode.

If its possible to keep it cooler at a reasonable level I'll undervolt my CPU.