7738G problem with new partition and EISA

Well, i looking over all the forum and don't find nothing.

Some time ago i install W7 and come here to ask for drivers, well, today mi brother hung up all the programs and W7 goes black. Now when I restart the computer I have a black window and nothing more.

Well finally i can put to work my Restore DVDs and go back to the original set up with windows vista with all working.

But i have a old problem, when i create a new partition at vista (and the partition i make with W7) when i restart that partition transform automatically in a Healthy(EISA configuration) partition type.

Have any a clue about this? why does the partition change by itself? it is driving me crazy.

I hope some can help me with this problem.

 

Hi
Can you help us by telling us:
What is your Laptop !
Please expand on "I have a black window"
Do you see a boot screen with the acer logo at startup or nothing at all, do you get as far as the 4 windows colour boxes or not etc

I assume you have passed that stage if you are restoring by booting from a DVD. did you try to run any repair options first or just delete everything?

Do you have backups of your data photos etc /

Windows 7 install will take over any unformatted disk space and format it as it wishes (100MB system reserved partition and the rest as the main drive unless you force it down another route) If you are installing on an unformatted drive you don't need to create the partitions and certainly not using a Vista disk which does not understand the layout W7 wants.

Summary - if your data is safe elsewhere use any bootable OS disk to wipe your drive (remove all partitions) then boot from the W7 disk and just let it do it's thing !

 

EISA partition is often all Windows can say about hidden partitions with no drive letter. If the partition is 100MB or so then W7 made it . . if it is several GB then it is recovery partition put their by your original manufarcturer install - deletable as long as you know what you are doing !!!!

 

Well, i have a Acer Aspire 7738G, it comes with Vista.

Later i replace with W7.

The problem w7 was a black screen before the POST (the boot screen with acer logo) and before nothing else.

Well i have a back up because i transfer all archive to other pc when i install W7, i lose some pics and mi favorites of firefox, not too much too cry.

Well, the problem now is this: I have Vista now, i make a new partition of 100GB, i assign a drive letter and all is working fine, but, when i restart the partition is not anymore and when in check in administrative tools it is in EISA configuration, i dont know why this is happen and i ask for a solution for this, if is possible.

 

Ok

You have at some stage had several issues

The laptop should boot and carry out POST (while Acer logo shows) in first few seconds without any Hard disk or Operating system at all.

So if that failed the problem is not operating systems or partitions it is basic hardware meaning batteries, cooling fans, processors, graphics connection etc. Possibly a bad HDD might cause a problem here but usually the BIOS just ignores a bad drive and finally announces "no operating system"

But you go on to talk about creating partitions so that suggests you can get through the POST using a windows install disk

I am not clear what your plan is for partitioning the HDD as it is presumably larger than 100GB.
I am speculating that either

You have not fully removed all partitions from the drive before formatting (so you are fighting against ACERS original boot sector and an existing hidden recovery partition which expects to hide or re-hide certain partitions and boot via others at start -up
or
You are naming the new partition with an illegal letter e.g. A: or B:
or
You are using OEM recovery (not install) disks that are trying to partition the drive how they want to restore a factory layout.


Please try doing the following
1 Use a bootable RETAIL Windows 7 DVD

1.Once Windows 7 Setup is loaded, press Shift + F10 keys at the first setup screen (which allows selection of language, keyboard and locale). A Command Prompt window will be opened.

2.Run Diskpart, (the built-in disk partitioning tool which can clean the disk of all partitions - even those windows once loaded cannot see) by typing the following command inthe box then pressing enter:
diskpart

3.Type in the following command one by one, followed by Enter key
list disk (to show the ID number of the disk to partition, normally is Disk 0)
select disk 0 (change 0 to another number if applicable)
clean
exit

Now leave the menu, open the disk drawer if you now need to swap to installing vista and shut the pc down using the power button

Restart having closed the install disk of your desire (i.e. Vista or 7) in the slot and when the installer begins again it will see a completely unformatted HDD. Do not do anything clever ! No REALLY. Just leave it alone to install as it wants (W7 will make its own 100MB partition and a main partition filling the rest of the disk, vista would just make one partition to fill the disk, both will properly format the blank disk as they go.)

If this works you can then shrink the main system partition and make space for an additional one 'at the end' in Windows disk management or using 3rd party tools

 

Well, if i do all you tell me, when i make the new partition shrink the main system partition in the original windows vista (the one i get from the restore to factory DVD) the partition in the reboot set to EISA configuration. When i do that whit W7 it work fine.

The problem i have with W7 was that touch panel not work fine, and the volume function not work. And the way it administrate MSN is weir xd

 

"when i make the new partition shrink the main system partition in the original windows vista (the one i get from the restore to factory DVD) the partition in the reboot set to EISA configuration"

As it works ok in Windows 7 I do not think your laptop has a defect. Personally I would stick with W7 particularly as most of your Vista 'only' applications will work if you right click their icon and set W7 to run them in admin and Vista compatability mode.

I think you are saying you are getting Vista from a Factory restore DVD. these restore DVD's can be heavily customised and frequently muck up the boot records, restore all or part of the factory partition set and may take it upon themselved to restore, reformat or hide the partition after the main windows partition as they believe this is the factory recovery partition. they may also re-write the factory boot partition table forcing the boot to proceed via a recovery options choice. That is why I emphasised RETAIL disk in my instructions.

Assuming you want to stick with vista capture the OEM licenses from the factory recovery install, beg borrow or otherwise get hold of a vista RETAIL install disk and install from there having CLEANED the HDD again as I mentioned above

 

I think like you, Windows 7 works great for me, only the digital media volume not work good, and some info in the screen like when volume change dont appear, i thinks is because the W7 drivers for the notebook o something missing i dont know who is.

You can see in this picture about what i am talking, the touch buttons to raise or lower the volume.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6373/media02.jpg

And when you put mute to the sound or raise or lower the volume you have info in screen, but that in W7 not work.

The MSN too not go down to system tray icon and stay like a task in the bar, i dont know is this is for all W7 or can be changed.

Any way, i was think like you is it a problem of this Acer Retail software.

BruBroo, thx a lot for all your help, it was useful in some way and i appreciate you time to answer me (and understand my english)

 

No problem.

I think the volume buttons etc are all controlled by acer program " launch manager", Maybe you can find that - even if "for vista" and get it to run in W7.

all the best

 

Yes, you have right, searching the web (google is powerful) i find this article

http://www.theacerguy.com/forum/topic/acer-7738g-windows-7-upgrade-issues-fixes

He talk about the problems i mention here, maybe is useful for someone else.

You use msn on W7? is some way to use like other windows? i mean, when you close it in W7 it dont go to system tray icon, it keep like a task in the taskbar and is very weir.

 

Launch Manager / W7 upgrade
Good link thanks for posting

MSN:
Yep, mine too . . guess I can live with it in exchange for the other cool stuff