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    Acer 1410 or 1810 Be able to run CS:Source? TF2?

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by Kamzu, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. Kamzu

    Kamzu Notebook Evangelist

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    Love those games, classics for sure. Anyone know if these will run on the machines mentioned? Thanks! =D
     
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  3. der_mali

    der_mali Weihnachtsmann

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    For Source games use the latest Win7 graphics driver. With 4GB dual channel 800MHz RAM it gets around 24fps in HL Lost Coast benchmark at stock speed. With the latest Vista driver it will drop below 20fps.
     
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    formerglory Notebook Evangelist

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    As a bit of anecdotal evidence, I run TF2 on Win7 Pro RTM x64 on my 2.2 GHz C2D MacBook (black polycarbonate one) with an Intel X3100, and I can run it smoothly at 800x600 on Medium settings. I have 4GB of RAM & the latest drivers, and it's playable when I'm on the go. The 4500 has much more power than the X3100, so you should be able to play it on Medium settings at 800x600 or even 1024x768.

    Again, no direct experience, just my best educated guess. I'm planning on getting a 1410 soon, so I'm also interested in TF2 performance.
     
  5. Kamzu

    Kamzu Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, but the 1410 also has a much less powerful processor.

    Not sure how well that would work out haha.

    I'm currently running a Macbook Pro, kinda torn on whether I wanna trade down for portability =X
     
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    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    If I were you, I'd look into other notebooks. Something with an ATi Radeon HD 3200 would blow the 4500MHD out of the water, and if you can wait, the Lenovo IdeaPad S12 will have the Nvidia GeForce 9400M G in it. Mmm, ION...
     
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    Its too bad at least in machines smaller than 12", we have to choose between either Atom and better graphics, or CULV and Intel integrated graphics. Ah, can't have your cake and eat it too....
     
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    I think we can expect a sub 12" CULV+4330 combo in the not so far future. I see no reason why there shouldn't be something like this. Did Acer announce an ION netbook, yet? If not, an 11.6" CULV+Ati might be Acer's answer.
     
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    What would you expect the price to be with that configuration der_mali? I would hope no more than $599.

    Granted, maybe it is physically impossible to fit dedicated graphics and a CULV processor in a 11.6" chassis, you have to choose between an Atom or better graphics, but I could be wrong.
     
  10. Kamzu

    Kamzu Notebook Evangelist

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    Acer is coming out with the ferrari one which is a CULV by AMD with an ATI integrated videocard.

    But I doubt it would be cheap stuff, but that's to be expected. Hope the battery life doesn't suffer too much from the increase in power though ^^;;
     
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    It's hard to guess a price of an hypothetical device. Afaik the 4330 doesn't use more juice than an 9400M so it could be possible to squeeze it in a small chassis. Even if using a single core CULV it would run circles around any ION device.

    Ah yes, I forgot about that. I hope AMD improves their CULV equivalent's power consumption in the near future. It looks kind of ancient with 18W TDP compared to Intel's stuff. I like AMD though and would love to buy from them again.
     
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    Cool thing about the acer ferrari one is that it supposedly has dolby digital live for 5.1 digital sound to a decoding receiver. =D
     
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    Since the 1410 has been updated with a dual-core SU2300 Celeron it should be interesting to see how real-world gaming benchmarks improve.

    I had an Atom-based netbook (Dell Mini 9). Sold it to get something bigger for my hands, and while the Atom was fast enough, I don't think I'd buy another one. I'd take the dual-core Celeron over an Atom any day.

    The ION systems are nice, but they're paired with an old Atom proc. If the 9400m was paired with a CULV proc (which probably won't happen, due to licensing), then I'd reconsider.

    At the end of the day, you have to realize this: these 11" CULV machines are beefed up netbooks, and should be used as such, which is good enough for me.