Acer 3820TG vs 4820TG

Other than the screen size, and the increase weight (.7lbs) i believe. Any noticeable difference between the two models? build, design, performance?

 

Dual sink/fan cooling system in the 3820TG is remarkable.

 

3820tg has two cooling fans one on the right, one on the left

very quiet

the 4820tg one cooling fan, and some people have reported it to be loud

 

bronsky was too fast for me!

 

Bronsky

 

3820TG doesn't have a DVD burner, the 4820TG does.

 

why would they have a dual cooling on a smaller laptop and a single fan on the bigger one... thats just..... :S. So the cooling/heat/noise is better on the 3820TG? Proven? any benchmarks?

 

Many. Yes it cools better.

 

Yes proven many times.

Some heat reasults vs 5820TG and asus X77JA here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ace...rks-tweaks-mods-upgrades-197.html#post6488444

4820TG has even slightly worse cooling than the 5820TG as well.

The 3820TG has excellent cooling, some of the best I've seen in any laptop.

 

I guess the 3820tg is probably the best on the market so far then

 

They had to make space for the ODD, didn't they?

 

What about any differences in build quality? I know the 13" UL Asus laptops were a bit sturdier than the 14" models.

 

Usually the smallest in a similar line is the studiest. They probably don't vary the thickness of the material much, just made bigger panels.

 

is the 3820TG thaat much better?

 

I wanted to pick up a 4820tg from Amazon, but they're sold out and there's nowhere else in the USA (as far as I can tell) to get a 4820tg at this point. I'm now seriously considering ordering a 3820tg from Canada. I'm coming from a 14" laptop (Toshiba Satellite M105-s3041) for the last 4 years and I'm quite accustomed to its dimensions. Does anyone think that going to a 13.3" laptop would be too jarring an experience for someone who is used to a 14" device?

 

I replied to a thread similar to this one.
I guess it is relevant here also.
Here it is.....

Here's a quick comparison between the 3820TG and 4820TG.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/499204-acer-aspire-timelinex-4820tg-owners-lounge-207.html

Within the post, there's also a link
to helpful photos for visual size/dimensions comparison.

It just all depends on personal usage and preference. Both models are awesome for their size, weight, quality, and performance.

 

Thanks for the link to that post. I'll definitely be examining those photos showing the size differences over the next day or two.

 

I never required DVD reader. Only for installing windows 7 once and you can do it with usb... For me in such notebooks a dvd writer is a too much luxury. Besides all dvd writers give up the ghost pretty soon if they are not used frequently. Screen difference is not too much.

I can have reasonable overclock with hd 5650 and its very own heatsinker keeps it very cool during heavy duty.

I am glad to have a 3820tg and I recommend it to everybody who dont mind using 13 screen.

 

The ODD is removable in the 4820TG.
Just remove the ODD and replace it with a HDD/SSD.
Install the ODD in a USB external enclosure.

Now you can have an awesome dual HDD/SSD setup
in the 4820TG and a USB external ODD when needed.

I haven't experienced a loud cooling fan and heat problems, mentioned
by others, in my 4820TG. Are those that state that are even actual 4820TG owners?
Or an experience with a random defect?

The only problem is the availability of the 4820TG
in the USA.

Maybe the status will change in the upcoming weeks/Holidays
and Acer will ship out more for the USA market.

 

Well, after everything, I decided to go for the i3 3820tg. Should have it by Monday or Tuesday of next week. Best of luck to everyone waiting patiently for the 4820tg's.

 

I'm in the same boat here between the two of them. The other concern I have is getting the French keyboard if I order it off NCIX. Any opinions from people that have tried both?

 

What do you mean by give up the "ghost"?

 

He's implying "all" ODDs "die/break" if they are not used frequently, or just "die/break"
after some usage.

I'd really like to see verifiable evidence to that statement. Like a website
that conducted research on various ODDs that has proof that ODDs regularly
malfunction/break if not used frequently or when used frequently.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
But stating something with no sufficient evidence is an entirely different matter.

Some users still prefer an ODD in their laptop.
Nothing wrong with that.
Which the 4820TG can provide for that type of user.

When a user decides/prefers a dual HDD/SSD setup, the 4820TG
can give them that option. The ODD can be placed in an external enclosure.
So you have a dual HDD/SSD setup and an external ODD.

As I mentioned, choosing which model is based on personal usage and preference.


EDIT:

Just as the person stating "all" ODDs will break, this is similar to another
person claiming "all" AUO LCD panels are grainy.

These types of comments will create a negative perception for future
readers although there aren't any verifiable evidence.

This is something that is harmful to a company and its laptop models.

 

Totally agree. Thanks for staying on top of posts like these.

Some will read about products and see comments like those, and will at first take it as a "possibility" of truth, but perhaps also "might be" just a frustrated owner that has simply screwed something up himself, or has a rare defective unit. Those readers will read more and see that it usually is the second part.

Others will see one comment like these and instantly come to the (wrong) conclusion that this unit is the biggest piece of crap ever made. It is posted in a unit specific forum and mentions things that they have never had happen or heard of happening to other brands, so it must be an issue with this unit. Never had an optical drive fail over time from non-use, or grainy displays, or vision damaged, or driver issues, strange warranty claim's, overheating, the need to change heatsink compound, game distortion, shutting down, replace CPU, video doesn't over clock high, create backup discs, so these must be junk.

Reading messages here, it is easy to see that many readers are in that second group that see a message that one or two users post, and runs with it. They will not read 1000's of pages here to get the real truth. I wouldn't either. Every day the same questions get asked over and over. Many people don't read enough to find the real answers.

The vast majority can simply buy either of these, turn it on, and enjoy one of the best laptops they have ever had, without the need to do anything else but use the thing the way they wanted before purchase. It is generally good to go out of the box.

 

I couldn't agree more. These are quality laptops which tend to out-spec their respective competition in some significant ways. I think some intermittent issues are getting an inordinate amount of attention on these forums.

 

I'd like to clarify my statement.

Of course, I'm not denying there are bad ODDs and
bad AUO LCD panels.

The possibilties are from a bad
batch, random defect, damage, etc.

But that is the case for any electronics
and PC hardware from any manufacturer/model.

If there are proven defects/problems with " all" ODDs and
" all" AUO LCD panels, please show the evidence.

Generalizing " all" ODDs & AUO LCD panels
is harmful. That gives a negative perception to Acer and the
parts used in their laptops.

I am in no means an Acer/AUO employee or even an Acer fanboy.

I'm even testing/using an HP DV6 now and still deciding on which to keep,
the HP DV6 or the 4820TG.

I'd be one to gladly join a group to criticize
a defect if there is evidence.

 

I was actually tempted to get this (3820TG) laptop, it is cheaper than 5742G, has a much more powerful video card (Radeon 5650 vs GT420M), and is sturdier and cools infinitely better.

But I just came from a broken Lenovo Y450 which I've used for a year and half, and really want something with a bigger screen than 14''. The 3820TG 13.3'' is just too damn small, I may have bitten the 4820TG but that's not available in Canada, and it's probably not as cheap either. So in the end I had to go with the 5742G....

 

It's too late to tell you now but there's also the 5820TG which has a 15.6" screen.

 

It's even more pricey than 4820TG and has exactly the same specs as my new 5742G except the graphics card.

Which amounts to about a 200$ difference between 5820TG and 5742G here in Canada....for about 10% extra graphics power? Lol.

 

Also, don't forget that the 5820TG will have a longer battery life than the 5742G. However, you made the right choice. The $200 extra isn't worth the boost in graphics power and battery life.

 

you mention having a dual ssd/hdd by replacing the odd. how do you do this please as i am seriously considering loading the OS into an ssd for boot time but need the storage of an hdd.

any help would be much appreciated.

 

It is possible get a ODD to harddisk spacer with SATA ports but don't think about RAID it is not possible.
Google "Hard Drive Caddy Adapter Optical Bay"

 

thanks very much. excuse my incompitence but what is RAID?

 

RAID is an acronym for Redundant Array of Independent Disks. It was originally inexpensive disks, but many times for performance reasons you will use the most expensive of disks for high throughput or IO ops / second.

RAID

 

and what would i use it for?

 

In simple terms you could mirror two disks together so that if one failed you could keep right on going. Or you could stripe them in a non-redundant way to make them act like a single drive that was twice as fast and twice as big, but one that would fail completely if either drive failed.

 

oh i see, thanks for your response.
Would i easily be able to clone the hdd to the ssd and have the OS and programs ion the ssd and then use the hdd for storage to speed up boot times and save battery?