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    Acer 6935g - Ultime upgrade

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by low9, Jan 9, 2011.

  1. low9

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    Hello everybody on this great forum :)

    first, my configuration:

    Acer 6935G
    intel t9400 (1,025v-0,95v) 2,53GHz (1066MHz) 6MB
    Geforce 9600m GT gddr3 (undervolt 0,89v) (core-610, memory-910, shaders-1600)
    4GB DDR3 (1066MHz)
    500GB (5400tpm)
    16" screen (1366*768)

    3d mark 06 : 7250
    Furmark: approximatively 1450frame per minute
    ask for more bench (crysis, gta IV)

    I could push higher the frequency of gpu with 1,05v but too much heat (73°c max) :(

    I was wondering if the radeon mobility hd 4650 (ddr2) could be a good upgrade or if the performance will be nearly the same? (and with an oc 4650?)

    Is the hd 4670 compatible (http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/396320-acer-mxm-models-cards.html-->no ; mxmupgrade.com-->yes? :confused: )? Is it better?

    Is this processor a good x9100? (--> eBay.be: Intel® Core?2 Duo X9100 3.06Ghz OEM SLB48 6MB > T9900 (objet 140494057435 Fin: 24-janv.-11 13:27:25 CET))

    And last, all these things do not improve significantly performance and te best upgrade is a HDD Seagate momentus XT (hybride) or 2 GB in addition (-->6GB DDR3

    Thanks a lot for time you take too read and answeer and sorry for my poor english ;)
     
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  2. downloads

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    There's no point in upgrading RAM- if you're not using up the entire RAM you have it's going to make no difference at all.
    New HDD would be a good idea though- overall experience with the computer with 7200rpm HDD would be better.

    As for you current GPU- 73*C is not a high temperature at all so if that's what is stopping you from OCing even more @1.05V- it shouldn't be a concern.

    I would advise against 4650 DDR2- it's gonna cost you and it's a crippled card.
    As for HD4670 it's not incompatible according to our MXM thread- it's not listed because it has not been attempted yet (at least I can't see any failed attempts)


    As for the benchmark- I’m rather curious how Crysis performs on your system in high details 720p- if you wouldn't mind. Although it's just curiosity so I don't insist ;)
     
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    ok thx, for all reply and for the quick response :D
    i'll try to overclock higher with 1,05v :) and forget ati..

    And the hdd is less expensive :)

    for the bench, on crysis warhead (gamer=high):
    !TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
    Play Time: 227.02s, Average FPS: 15.43
    Min FPS: 9.50 at frame 1760, Max FPS: 19.88 at frame 757
    Average Tri/Sec: 1480160, Tri/Frame: 95952
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 5.44
    with (600, 900, 1600) :)

    If 73 is not hot, where is the limit?

    And can I put the voltage to 1,16v ( original: 1,05v but propose by nibitor)?
     
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    Sure HDD is less expensive than HD4670 DDR3 but that would be one hell of an upgrade performance-wise.

    As for the temperatures- you don't want to be close to 90*C- as long as it's stable and temps up to mid 80s it's fine.

    As for voltage- can't say for sure as I don't own 9600M GT but it's mainly the matter of temperatures and stability- if you can keep the whole thing cool enough it should be fine but I wouldn't do it- you're @0,89V and wont to go to 1,16V- it's gonna get warmer in the room.
     
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    Going SSD will help drop overall system temp, also make the whole thing feel alot more snappy.
     
    Lunar_wolf, Jan 9, 2011
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    ok, thanks again..

    Last problem is I don't find a hd 4670 ddr3 to buy...

    And I have only one slot for hdd so sdd isn't a good solution for me (500 GB ssd is very too much expensive)...
     
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    You have to find someone with an MSI ex625 or gx623 for the 4670 ddr3. Its the only way.

    The HDD + SSD you can accomplish with an ODD caddy...
     
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    Im doing an upgrade myself :p

    Got a t9900 (was meant to arrive couple of days ago but stupid australia post messed up and now they dont know where the package is :( )
    and im thinking of getting a seagate 7200.4 HDD 320gb
    about 65 australian dollars

    And using an arctic mx-2 for the thermal compound to help with temps :D
     
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    ok i just got the seagate 7200.4 320GB :D
     
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    For the hd4570, I'm looking for it...

    I want to keep my blu-ray player... So no ODD caddy ;)

    Hamzie, what about your original processor?

    And what about the performance of the new HDD?
     
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    I havent really tested it out yet through heavy duty work
    any idea of what tests i can run

    My original was a ty t5800 2.0ghz
     
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    simply boot time for example but take your time :)

    and hd tach or hd tune...

    Or simply your feeling ;)
     
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    alright ill properly measure boot time and post here some time soon.

    How are you using your express 54 slot?
    im thinking of getting usb 3.0 but i dont know how slowed the speeds will be
     
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    great idea (except that for the moment, I have no usb 3.0 device :p )..

    May be for a safe transfer rate, an e-sata to usb 3.0 could be a good idea...

    I wonder what could be the speed with this express card...
     
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    Acer 6930G expresscard=port1 and wifi=port2, so could do a x2(NVidia) or x2E(ATI) DIY ViDock. The latter would get you 3dmark06 > 12k with a HD6850.
     
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    woooooow!!!!

    Really impressive....

    I'll read this thread and may be try this...

    I'll keep you posted
     
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    Hey I thought I responded.... anyway HD4650 DDR2.

    Clocked at either 600/600 1.0v or 675/600 1.1v.
     
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    The Seagate 7200.4 will be decently faster. I saw a good increase over my stock drive and then I switched over to the hybrid and saw even more of an increase. I would say something like 3 minutes > 2 minutes > 40 seconds. A sandforce or C300 SSD should manage something like 20 seconds.
     
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    No, Diy VidDock is not what I want... Because with an external gpu, it's not on the laptop's screen...
     
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    If you have x1.Opt, then it can use the internal LCD too but it loses some performance.
     
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    I don't think so...

    And I can't swap my 9600 GT... :(
     
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    Im happy with my 9600

    will be getting my t9900 real soon now :D

    hey guys on the heatsink right.. where the cpu sits i can see the dried thermal compound which ill be removing.. (applying mx-2) but where the gpu sits.. i dont know how to describe it it really isnt a dried thermal compound thing on the heatsink... more like a ...cloth? am i supposed to remove that too before applying mx2?

    talking about that blue pad thing on the top http://static.zooomr.com/images/5867319_87e39fd0e0.jpg
     
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    *buuuuuuuuuuuumppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppy ride
     
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    Ah thats not the GPU, thats the northbridge contact pad (sharing the same part as the CPU heatsink).

    Leave that.
     
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    haha alright
    thanks
     
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    woot woot t9900 arrives today - will let you know how it works.
    low9 did you get that momentus xT?
     
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    Yeah, I ve got it for 125€ in Bruxelles...

    Only 20 seconds to boot on seven 64bit... It's longer with Vista 32 bit but with a good improvement... Ubuntu is also realy faster.. This HDD is realy impressive.. :)
    Now, my laptop is directly ready for gaming, internet, word,... after booting.

    Strangely it never spin-off...

    now I save money for intel x9100 :) (and I study XD)
     
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    Will it be useful getting a usb 3.0 express card?
    or will there wont be much of a speed diff. due to the motherboard
     
    hamzie, Jan 26, 2011
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