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    Acer 7730.change vista to xp??

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by regionfree, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. regionfree

    regionfree Newbie

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    I got a laptop today and it has Vista on it.can i format the harddrive and put in Windows xp.is it possible or would it be hassle??
     
  2. BigHops323

    BigHops323 Notebook Deity

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    It could be a hassle, definitely check the availability of XP drivers before you switch. I'd also recommend giving Vista a chance. It's really not all that bad, personally I like it. But nonetheless it is possible, just make sure you can get all of your drivers. Good luck.
     
  3. deezel77

    deezel77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi

    any luck with installing xp?

    Ive been all round the world with this, nliting, slipstreaming etc, no luck.


    eventually settled for changing the bios for the sata drive to ide ( from ahci)

    Have since been investigating tutorials regarding 'how to enable ahci after installing xp in ide mode

    found a couple but they are not working for me

    settling for what I have unless I can find one of the above tutorials that actually work for this acer model
     
  4. Skibums

    Skibums Notebook Evangelist

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    Took a quick look and didn't see any XP drivers for your model. I second BigHops323, give Vista a chance. It really isn't all that bad. I'm a hugh XP fan, but am now getting to enjoy using Vista.
     
  5. deezel77

    deezel77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ive tried to get on with vista, but wholly unimpressed.

    its gotta be xp for now, maybe 7 later if things work out

    ....I'm sure this can be done
     
  6. Oxidane

    Oxidane Newbie

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    Hi, Yes you can change to vista, just use IDE mode on harddrive, BUT, However, you need to assure you that there is XP driver for you Grafics card, I got the problem that i cant find xp drivers for my Grafic driver, but everything else i got in XP drivers from http://support.acer-euro.com there is the drivers for XP for TavelMate 7730 (if its not Aspire)

    I got : Ati Radeon Mobility HD 3650 512 mb

    And i cant find XP drivers for that one INCL CCC
     
  7. deezel77

    deezel77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    chriscatt Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, begs the question why? Vista is much better than XP and, on your laptop, as fast, once you know what minor tweeks to do and disable some of the Acer software. You'll be making a rod for your back and you might end up with hardware not working if you plump for XP. I've just put together a 7735 for a teaching assistant and I'm about to setup another for a burser in another school today, certainly not considering removing Vista at all. I've also sent out three 5920's, with no complaints yet.
    LOL, win7 is just Vista really, already those who know about security on PC's are stating that is is wrong to relax the UAC settings on win7 and it will compromise security to the general user. Also the present version of win7 has a much smaller driver database, although that will hopefully improve after time...
    Chris
     
  9. billaboard

    billaboard Notebook Consultant

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    Chriscatt, as someone who is looking at whether I can replace 3 older laptops with a 2920, but have been trawling this forum looking at whether there are XP drivers, I can answer on behalf of the other poster.
    The simple fact is that because of licensing restrictions on a whole bunch of older software, I just cannot take the chance on not dropping back to an OS that will work. I have been running multiple machines and trying to keep them separate so that, for example all the C++ programming is done on one machine, all the paperwork and accounts on another, all the software testing on another, and the general purpose fiddling net surfing and so on on the last. My problem is that so much has had to be migrated back to the XP machine.
    One of the C++ programs could be updated, but at a cost of nealy 3 times the cost of a laptop. The accounts program could be changed, but at about the laptop cost and so on and so on. If you work for an education authority, maybe these costs are taken care of, but I have to meet them myself and since retirement this has become only a hobby.

    I'm doing a lot of work investigating virtual machines on Vista, and this may be the way to go with the simpler programs, but the whole thing is still an awful mess. And just don't ask about backups with Windows Home Server that doesn't understand FAT32 or (when I last looked about 10 days ago) Vista64.

    Anyone know if an AS2920 is any good? I need something small and cheap.
     
  10. chriscatt

    chriscatt Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, your needs aren't necessarily the same as the person I replied too, besides, what has Home Server got to do with it, we are talking Vista. I am still interested why the person I was referring to would take all that effort to get XP working on a laptop that will happily run Vista with no issues, then possibly ending up with something that isn't able to run all the hardware correctly.
    What works for you is fine, if you are using such old programs, and possibly some highly specialised ones as well, you keep to your hobby and enjoy. There are too many people in this forum that just write off Vista, excuses such as, 'I can't get on with it' 'doesn't work for me', simply don't cut it. This forum is also full of people that have been wrongly infuenced by other posters to install XP, it's like the blind leading the blind. No backups are performed, no research done and no information sort as to what hardware is on the laptop and then the drivers required. This forum is full of individuals who have messed up because they are wrongly led to believe XP is better than Vista....
    Chris
     
  11. billaboard

    billaboard Notebook Consultant

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    Chris, I don't want to develop this into anything other than a pleasant discussion, and I agree with most of your last post.
    My work was and is mainly related to pro audio. Very, very few pro-audio users have converted to Vista. I'm unusual in that I use Vista for some recording and editing on 2 laptops, but my main desktop machines are still on XP because I find it simpler and less intrusive. For pro-audio XP is better than Vista still.
    Even for amateur audio, Vista is a shambles. The old bizarre XP mixer has been replaced by an even more weird Vista mixer. I've spent a large part of my life having to tell people that to record incoming audio "right click on a blank space and enable everything, but if your machine is a Sony it may be crippled anyway" or something similar. All I was doing was pointing out that for many people an XP machine is far better than a Vista machine. I certainly wouldn't suggest that anyone should move to XP without having first sourced all the drivers and probably put in a fresh hard drive before starting.

    I mentioned Home server because it is a current Microsoft product that provides a good and reasonably sensible backup and archival system, and it is quite ludicrous that it isn't compatible with the 64bit version of Vista (or FAT32 disks). Only the business and ultimate Vistas provide a decent backup program.

    Anyway, I've ordered my little AS2920 and it comes with Vista. There seem to be some Chinese XP drivers, but I'll try running XP in a virtual machine on it first to see how that goes.
    Bill
     
  12. deezel77

    deezel77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    why?

    how long have you got?

    its horses for courses.

    answers come to mind, not necessarily in the order of their importance.

    A) I have a wonderfully stripped down nlited version of xp, fast, virtually free of bugs, smooth as a babes rear end

    B) 4 machines in the house, running seamlessly.

    C) Everything I wanna do on these machines I can and have, networked, remote desktop etc, have not the time or patience to learn to use vista, spent a week with it, drove me up the wall.

    D) Very trusty HP scanjet 4100c, wont run on vista

    E) Though I'm no geek, ( hence all my earlier requests for help) being very familiar with xp, there isn't that much that it can throw at me I can't fix.

    F) Any 2 of the above for me is enough reason to reject vista

    G) But most of all I just plain love xp, and just plain dislike vista.

    Its pretty simple really

    There is a guy down the road with a 16 year old motor, he's looked after it, it does everything he wants, he knows all its weaknesses, all its strengths.

    Its reliable, practical, cheap to run, he's just plain happy with it.

    Interestingly ( not a real word, I know) his wife and son have the same model, so when they get a problem he can solve that too.

    but fortunately not much goes wrong with them, thats why he loves them, you see he has a life outside his cars, he just wants to turn the key and off he goes A to B no problems

    One day he knows he will probably have to replace it, but while this one serves his purposes he is more than happy to go along with it.

    Hope you liked the homily :D

    Long live xp

    Edit: I am sure there are plenty plenty tech reasons that can be thrown into this debate, both for and against

    Mines just a personal opinion based on my experiences and needs.

    ...but hey, its the most important opinion in my book

    ...
     
  13. ATG

    ATG 2x4 Super Moderator

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    Guys, you can get all XP drivers for 7730 from here. Good luck.
     
  14. ATG

    ATG 2x4 Super Moderator

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    Please stay on topic and do not convert this thread in another Vista vs XP war. I had to delete some posts.

    Thank you.
     
  15. bigozone

    bigozone JellyRoll touring now

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    LESS FILLING.... XP

    i had to do it! ;)
     
  16. chriscatt

    chriscatt Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, fair enough, you are the mod, nuff said :D
    Chris
     
  17. madkid73

    madkid73 Newbie

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    I too, would like to install XP over Vista on my Acer 7730. For the simple reason that most of my music recording software, Cubase etc are not compatible. These are power hungry programs, and as you know Vista is power hungry enough. Incidentally, does anyone know how to alleviate some of the power drain?

    I have been using Vista for over a year now, and still very unhappy with it. I have toyed with the idea of going back to XP, but after reading many forums I now have reservations as it seems like a real hassle. I have been told you need to download drivers from the manufacturer’s website, told you do not need any, and also told I will be unable to do it on my machine.

    I also have reservations with 7, as we all know M.S release O.S's unfinished, and after being burnt with the horrific Vista, I now have no trust in M.S.

    Snow Leopard is interesting, but has anyone installed it over Vista on an Acer 7730?

    Thanks in advance