Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810 Timeline 11.6" Thread

Kermee, i decided to ditch the Intel AHCI/ATAPI drivers for a change and i`m now using the Windows 7 Version.
i got "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller.

My readings got a bit better, but my 4k read is still around 10mb/sec

Here`s the screenshot



Got 10+ more mb/sec at 4k write, and my Seq is over the roof!

Also uninstalled Matrix Storage

EDIT: Did one more test with AC Connected, at High Performance and Antivirus etc not running
Impressing:

 

has anybody tried virtualization with SU7300?, is it enabled?, can you use XP Mode in Windows 7?

 

Yes its enabled with SU7300, you just need windows 7 professional/ultimate!

The Home premiums that come with the 1810T don`t support it

 

No problem, I'm a MSDN suscriber.... I wanted to know about it because SU7300 model is not sold in spain, and I like to know if I must wait for it or not...

Thanks!

 

I too live in Spain and I bought the 1810TZ the day it was released (22nd october). And I'm happy.

I doubt a SU7300 1810T will appear soon here. A google search doesn't show any hope.. and, in fact, machines with the SU9x00 are quite difficult to find here also.

Another issue.. I work in a computer shop, so I have access to distributors. The 1810TZ was quite easy to find, but they didn't have too many units. In fact, where I bought mine, they sold out after a week and haven't got more.

EDIT: I can say it seems the Acer 1410 with the Intel SU2300 will land in Spain. The Su2300 has virtualization technology, but only 1M cache. Also the 1410 has smaller battery (4400mAh against the 5600mAh in the 1810T(Z)). Other specs: 2gb ram, 320gb HDD and available in Black, Blue, Red and/or White. Seems it will be around 80€ or 90€ cheaper than the 1810TZ, which is selling here at around 499€..

 

I'm looking to pick up the 1810T, and I'm confused as to how to get the Bing Cashback deal on it. Is that still available? I can't find it on their site. Also, is that the best place to pick it up? I'd like to get it as soon as possible and most places seem to be out of stock with it. (Any chance I can get it before Thanksgiving?)

Thank you very much, I've been looking at this for awhile and I'd love to pick it up as soon as I can. (The stores around here don't seem to have it.)

 

J&R has it for $599.99 with free shipping (shows in stock). Bing has 5% cashback from J&R. Go to the Bing Shopping Store listing, and click on J&R. Once at J&R add it to your cart and check out.

However, I'd say it's unlikely that you will get it before Thanksgiving.

 

After lurking here for quite some time, I'm finally going to venture into the midst of all you international technorati. Me? I have no idea what an Hermes bag looks like, but now tempt me with a new tech toy and I'll be ready to bite the leg of the UPS guy who doesn't deliver my merchandise!

I've finished reading all 151 pages of posts here.......whew! I have computer specs running down my face and still have questions. So, please indulge me.

I'm both a healthcare professional who often does public lectures, and also teach at a local university where I extensively use PowerPoint lectures (with video inserted). I briefly considered a 10.1" unit, but just couldn't read my notes on the screen during a lecture.

I have another computer for more power-hungry programs and plan to keep the new computer pretty lean. I don't need any of the offered software and am adept at upgrading both memory and hard drive if necessary. I may even try some of the tweaks that many of you have suggested.

I went into NYC this past week for a visit at J&R to actually put my hands on some of these babies. Initial response was that my research had been pretty good and that I indeed want an 11.6" unit. The salesperson tried to tell me that the 1410 SU3500 was more powerful than the SU2300 (because of the higher number) but I just wasn't buying it. They didn't have an 1810T in stock, but did have an 1810TZ on display. I now note that they have an 1810T available online.

So, the burning questions are these.......by the time I upgrade the 1410 with 4GB RAM, a larger (and possibly faster @7200rpm) hard drive, and maybe add a Bluetooth dongle, that puts me at about the same price as the 1810T. The 1410 SU2300 is readily available in a choice of colors. Of course I can economize by buying the 1410, upgrade the RAM and can pop an old 320GB drive into it and do without the BT for now. Also, I travel only occasionally so the difference in battery life is not significant to me. Do any of you own both machines and can offer a comparison? Do you have a problem with the style of the keys?

I need to pull the trigger soon and actually have a unit in my hands by the first week of January. I welcome your feedback and advice. Thanks!

 

Hey there.
You have better luck than we do, because in Portugal isnt avaiable the 1810T(Z), only 1410 with SU2300... What i will most regret will be the batery diference, but better than nothing...
Ordered one btw, must arive monday...

 

The 1810TZ (SU4100) I tried feeled perfectly sturdy (no flexing) AND it has a 2 year gurantee @ 499 euros (Finland)

 

When you upgrade you will most likely put in 800Mhz memory. The included 4 gigs is advertised as 667Mhz. Also you will probably use a 7200 RPM drive and not the standard 5400 RPM drive. In the nend you have decide what you want to end up with and then plan the purchase and upgrade path.

 

how come the battery in both the 1810 and the 1410 are 6-cells, but yet the 1810 battery lasts longer? they are both the same dimensions, so does this mean the 1810's battery is more dense?

 

The 1410 comes with a different capacity. 4400mAh so even though they have the same size the 1810 lasts longer.

No need to explain why, its just marketing. I could also say "Why is the 1810T faster, they both got the same exterior"

 

1810 > 1410. Duh!

 

Haha u got me there

 

I've noticed a lot of comments about the Acer 1410 and the Gateway EC1435u being the same laptop. Does anyone know if you can use the Acer bios on the Gateway? What about the drivers?

 

I don't have both machines, so I'll keep quiet on that front, but have you considered the 1820P tablets will soon be released by Acer? Since you said you're a medical professional, thought I'd let you know. Here's the thread on that. That aside, in general, I think the choice between the 1810 vs. 1410 is mostly based on features -- one basically needs to figure out whether the extra features (bluetooth, processor+battery upgrade...) are worthwhile features to have for themselves, or whether they are really looking for the best bang for the buck. Another thing to consider is how long you'll keep the thing -- people with fast upgrade cycles often go with cheaper models, while those intending to keep the machines for a while (like myself) pick the higher end models. Trying to help here, as I understand the decision can be hard

 

I post another thread on how to install the bluetooth for the 1410 and no answer. Has anyone done it? I bought one from ebay and my 1410 and the BT module will come next week.

Thanks for helping.

 

What actual change in performance do you get by "upgrading" from 667mhz to 800mhz on this 1810TZ?

I ask because the unit costs $550 plus shipping - and buying 4Ghz of 800mhz dual channels costs $80-$100 right now. That is 15-20% of the purchase price.

What do you actually get from spending that money?

 

In a shared video memory enviorment look at the increase as about the same as going from the 5400 drive to the 7200 drive. If our tasks are memory dependent and not drive dependent the memory upgrade is the better upgrade. In general the drive is usually a better performance upgrade.

Remember too this not only upgrades the cpu memory but video memory too. So it is a better upgrade here than on a machine with dedicated video cards. Others here who own the machines may be able to give you a more definative answere.............

 

Soliton........thanks for the reply and the link. I had briefly considered it, but just don't have a need for a tablet at this time. (perhaps I'm being short-sighted?) Never having owned a netbook, I don't know if I'll love it or hate it. If I love it and it's underpowered, I'll be sorry I didn't go for the higher end model. If I hate it, I would have far less buyer's remorse if the cash outlay were within reason. As fast as the technology is changing, I'm thinking that I may be better off buying the 1410 and upgrading it as I go?

Tanware & Skagen.......with regard to upgrading the memory from 667 to 800MHz........does that apply ONLY to a shared memory environment as in the 1810 series, or would I also see a benefit with regard to the 1410? It appears that the 1410 RAM is in a 1/1 configuration as shipped, so I have to buy new modules anyway. Will a 7200rpm hard drive provide a significant performance difference on the 1410?

Thanks, guys!

 

My RAM is 800mhz in my 1810T

 

Some 1810T's are reported to have shipped with 800Mhz ram but no garenty on getting that lucky. The 1410 is a shared memory as is the 1810 so both benefit. Even those with dedicated graphic chips with shared memory for expansion CAN benefit somewhat.

Always have 1/1 or dual channel memory as this is WAY MORE important than the memory speed. Ideally the Kingston HyperX cas4 4 gigs would be the absolute best but cas 5 memory is fairly common and not sure what it would yeild real world for all that extra cash as that is about $200.00.

Edit; Ideally if your path is SSD in the near future get 8 gigs of cas5 (Think I read somewhere 8 gigs works here) and turn of the page file. It is just over $300 but would be the best upgrade path..........

 

Same here - have a 1810TZ from German reseller "MediaMarkt" and it came with a single 2GB 800Mhz module. From their online page it seems they still have 1410 and two different 1810tz models (with BT and without) in stock. But they do (at least as far as I know) only deliver to their shops in Germany where you can pick it up.

 

i just noticed that this youtube unboxing of the 1410 is a white version. i had no idea white was one of the models, so can anyone point me to where i can find a white 1810T in the US? there's only two color listed on their website, and that's black and blue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tJWiuL6dF4&NR=1

i thought the TZ models come with 3gb? it's weird how there's so many variances in specs and models...

 

Yep - its really senseless. I bought my 1810TZ on Amazon.com and just waiting for it to arrive but the spec sheet on Amazon.com says that TZ it comes with 3GB of 667 DDR2 RAM.

 

Here in Germany there seem to be two different models of the 1810TZ

1) with 250GB harddisk, 2GB RAM - without BT and UMTS - price is around 499€
2) a 320GB version with 3GB, BT and UMTS - price around 599€

both are available in black, blue and white.

 

White is not available in US- For now.

 

Anyone know if this SSD is any good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141419

It's only 32GB, but it has Intel MLC, which I heard is less prone to SSD slowdown/freezing.

 

The controller matters, not the flash itself. That drives doesn't say whose controller it's using.

 

Ok, this one says Intel- Click on specifications.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141419&cm_re=ssd_pqi-_-20-141-419-_-Product

Apparently, there are two versions of this drive.

Check PQI-

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/gen...ou-need-know-about-solid-state-disks-ssd.html

 

Do any of you have recommendations insofar as one brand vs. another with regard to a 7200rpm drive (320-500GB) for either of these computers? I've read innumerable specs, but the reviews are all over the place with regard to heat emission, quietness, etc. (not yet considering a SSD)

Also, I've virtually memorized k9hydr4's benchmark/passmark stats, but am still confused by one thing....the relative processor speed and power. J&R is taking orders for what appears to be a slightly different version of the 1410, as follows:

Acer Computer AS1410-8373 Aspire 11.6" Notebook PC - Sapphire Blue
Intel Core 2 Solo Processor ULV SU3500 1.4GHz / 2GB RAM / 250GB HD / Intel GMA 4500MHD / Webcam / 802.11N Wi-Fi / 6-Cell Battery / Windows 7 Home Premium

Can somebody put this into perspective for me? For instance, the processor is listed as SU3500, 1.4GB........also, the designation "ULV"? How does this model fit into Stereodude's chart?

 

That's a single core (3500). If you're going to get the 1410, then buy the su2300. It's a dual core for the same amount of money.

 

so how well does it fit? I am about to order it too.. is there enough space for power adapter and small mouse ?

 

my guess is that is a second generation of jmicron drive, just like the first OCZ Solid series. i don't think that's a rebranded intel SSD, because first of all, intel only licensed kingston to use their controller, and second, intel drives only come in 80gb or 160gb for MLC. newegg gets the specs wrong all the time.

 

I replaced a 160GB/5400 with a 320GB/7200 in my Lenovo S10 netbook.
Tools measured 20 to 30% increases in HD performance.
But I perceived no performance increase in day-to-day activity.
Also be aware that 7200 rpm drives reduce battery life.

Passmark stats are becoming less accurate due to Vista/Win7 variations.
These scores may be the best for the near future.

SU9400 Passmark score = 923
SU7300 Passmark score = 890
SU4100 Passmark score = 840
SU2300 Passmark score = 750
Intel 743 Passmark score = 503
SU3500 Passmark score = 490 single core
SU2700 Passmark score = 403 single core
Athlon L110 Passmark score = 299 single core
Atom N270 Passmark score = 229

 

For laptop 7200 RPM drives stay with WD Black. While the Seagate has a 500GB drive and WD is limited to 320GB the Segate tends to run hotter. Also the WD's in general have a lower seek time and this is the killer with HDD's and why SSD's kill HDD's.

I should note I have, and use, the 500GB Seagate and I'm not impressed at all. When SSD's at the equivelant 500GB are 5x-6x the cost of a HDD I'll probably make the jump, but that is a while down the road.....

 

Just a quick question, is the SU4100 faster or slower than the Intel Celeron M 900 @ 2.2GHz?

I own a laptop with the Celeron, and it would be nice and test some programs to make sure they work on the 1810TZ

Thanks =)

 

It looks like the su4100 is better than celeron 900

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+U4100+@+1.30GHz

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+900+@+2.20GHz

 

Please tell me one thing.

Can the AS1410 play .mkv movies at 720p or 1080p with no problem on the HDTV thru the HDMI?

 

Thanks for all the replies!

Two remaining questions for now: 1) can a BT module be added to the 1410, or is that mod only for the 1810; and 2) have any of you actually been happy with the 1810T without doing any mods?

Right now the choice for me (insofar as budget is concerned) is to buy the 1810T and use it as is.........or buy the 1410 and upgrade it with more/better RAM and add a 320GB 7200rpm hard drive?

That's the bottom line and my buying dilemma........what will give me the proverbial "most bang for the buck"?

 

I am decided, I will join the club soon ! I will buy an Acer 1810... I just don't know witch one to get... The T with su7300 & 3 Mg cache or the TZ with su4100 & 2 Mg cache... the rest of the specs are identical for both: 4 Gig Ram, 320 Gig HDD, BT, windows 7 and all the bells

I read all the post in this threat and a lot on others, I got confused a bit after so much infos (great job all of you !!!). Appart from VT is there anythings, tweaks or else that the TZ can't do (voltage tweak, overcloaking, etc)

I can get the TZ for 585.00 cdn and the T for 675.00. Is the 1810T really worth the $90.00 difference ?

 

Happy here- No mods.

I have both the 1410/SU2300(upgraded to 4GB and 250GB HDD) and 1810T/SU7300. You won't regret either one.

 

If you are not going to use XP Mode or Virtualization (which both require at least W7 Professional), then it is probably not worth it.

...and AFAIK, we make threads. We don't make threats...

 

k9hydr4, you're the first one i know that has both. can you confirm that both these models have the exact same chassis? one person mentioned that there are people that complain their 1410 has keyboard flex, while the 1810's don't have this weakness, so that suggests that there's different quality between lower and higher end

 

Perfectly happy with my 1810t, with no hardware mods. Would have done one for a PCI-express SSD if the mobo allowed it, but no such luck. Both models are absolute bangs for buck -- you just have to make up your mind about whether you need the higher configs or not (or have some disposable cash for splurging anyways) An interesting combination could be getting the SU2300 1410 and upgrade with an SSD, what say?

@Whitefiredragon: Being the one who suggested (as a theory and not much else, based on anecdotal/empirical evidence in this forum) that the chassis quality might be different, I also happen to think that its probably not worth worrying about. Many people have reported correcting the problem with a mild hand pressure, so unless you are interested in keeping your purchase for a very long time and/or do some rough handling, I'd wouldn't really worry about it

 

Hello All,

although nobody answered my info request in a previous post I decided to buy the 1410 as I will upgrade to Pro for XP mode.

Thank you for the gerneral info and let's hope it is as good as I hope!


Any advice on a relatively cheap good 64/128GB ssd? Soliton I have no clue on SSDs and I was going to buy an Imation model 128GB for 300USD but I saw some tests and it was quite slow. Any reason why you only have intel ones?

Thanks for the help!

 

Buying cheap SSD's that use bad controllers(JMF602 anyone? ) would not be good in the long run (SSD fragmentation slow down). I'd stick with Intel X25-M G2s and their OEMs cause they currently are known to be good and are sold at a decent price.

The only other option I'm looking at are the new toshiba ssd's (Super Talent FTM64DX25T/FTM28DX25T). While they are slower than the Intel at sequential read, the toshibas seem to be a bit faster at random write. Unfortunatly, these hit our stores last month so the prices are still high (the 64GB toshibas are sold at the same price as 80GB X25-M G2s) and I dont see any reason to go for them at the moment.

you could try out a product like FM-25S2I-128GBF2 (new G.skill ssd, Indilinx controller). seems to be pretty decent, pre-flashed with TRIM command compatible firmware and might be sold for around 300usd.

Whatever you choose remember to check which controller the SSD is using so you dont get an SSD using a bad one.

 

I just did the flex test, and they are about the same. It is rigid enough for my use.

Quality wise, the 2300 seems to be of higher quality, but maybe it is more because of the fake aluminum trim on black. My 1810 is sapphire blue.

If you're concerned about quality, then maybe you should check out the Lenovo IdeaPad-

http://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-ideapad-u150-culv-ultraportable-promises-7hr-battery-2261447/

or the Asus UL20A.

 

anyone here still getting the distorted graphics after waking up your 1410? I thought the latest BIOS had fixed the issue on my gf's 1410 but after 3 days it did it again last night. she plugged it in, and opened the lid to wake it up and it happen again. rebooting fixes everything but I'd rather the problem not exist at all. I got her the laptop as a bday present last week and I'd rather her not believe I got her something faulty :\