Acer Aspire 1810 Tablets Thread

What's your take on the comparison on the specs with this one and the TM2 that's not mentioned in the article?

 

Thanks. Another interesting review of the T4410. The screen of the T4410 (angle and color reproduction) seems to be high quality. That's important for my use.
The sample that they tested at tabletpcreview did not (yet) have a HDMI-port. The ones that they are shipping in The Netherlands does have HDMI:
http://www.acesdirect.nl/product/3516661#focusanchor

Also in the other US laptopmag.com-review they mention HDMI and VGA. There are a lot of different configurations of the T4410 around, appearantly.

Thanks for the extra info. I guess I should wait until there is more clarity on the specs of the 1820PT in my country. There should also be more news on the TM2 by then.

 

That's a good question.

It's dimensions remind me of the HP tx2000's.

It's a tablet for those who need the horsepower.

Obviously the Tm2 is for those who seek a more affordable option. I'd put my money on the Tm2 though. Few reviews go far enough to give you a good inking impression. Only the ones at GottaBeMobile provide good inking impressions. There is little question about the Tm2's inking impression. It's a Wacom and is unlikely to disappoint.

 

I'm so frustrated that people in the US can actually order the TM2 now, while I, in Europe, apparently have to wait until the beginning of March.

The Fujitsu T4410 is out here though. The matte screen sounds good, but I prefer the design of the TM2 and I like the fact that it has Altec Lansing speakers as well as dedicated graphics.

 

That why you move to the US of A.

 

To be fair the 1820pt came out first in Australia.

 

And is considered inferior to the Tm2

 

At that time the TM2 wasn't available, "everyone" was trying to get their hands on the 1820pt, just like everyone is trying to get the TM2 now.

Seriously why don't we all just move to South Korea to get the newest mobile technology.

 

Hands on the ~Lenovo~S10-3T Tablet.
I don't like the 3T very much,
but you folks might find this video interesting.

 

And live next to those crazy North Koreans?

Be my guest.

Tm2!!!

 

If it only had a stylus. Size wise its perfect.

 

Interestingly enough, you can get the XT2 on Dell Outlet ofr $1100. And that is with the Superbright screen.

 

Thanks for the link.

The Lenovo S10-3t is not what I'm looking for at the moment, but I like some choices they made.
- The keyboard must be one of the finest for a 10" netbook that I've seen.
- Also inserting a 320GB HDD (based on specs found here ) is quite big for a netbook-like, atom-based device. That gives some opportunities for people want to carry around HDD hungry data such as photos and music.

 

I actually think it looks pretty good as well. Like the design and keyboard, and it seems pretty compact and light.

Too bad about the stylus. Can't you buy one separately?

EDIT: No HDMI? The hell?

 

HDMI ftl.

 

It's an Atom Pinetrail platform, obviously there wouldn't be HDMI, barely handles 720P video, much less 1080P to a high resolution TV.

 

I agree HDMI is a good choice if you want to hook them up to a 1080P screen. I for one can tell the difference between VGA and HDMI when I hook up to my 32'' monitor so I see where you guys are coming from.

I still think Lenovo dropped the ball by not including a stylus. That killed like 50% of their buyers if not more. Still waiting to hear what this Apple tablet has to offer. So far the TM2 is the best buy but still way to heavy and fat for my tastes.

I can't argue the price is right though.

 

Makes sense. Well if it can't run YouTube HD then I can scratch it off the list too.

 

Here is a little more information from Netbooked.

"If you’ve been holding off on Lenovo’s S10-3t tablet netbook. Now might be the time to buy one as it is now available with the faster Atom N470 (1.83GHz) processor! Furthermore, the estimated shipping date is the same as the N450 models: “Ships within 9 bus.days”.
With the Atom N470 model, you will be able to enjoy multi-touch features as it is shipped with Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit. The Starter edition on the N450 models doesn’t have multi-touch features on touchscreens enabled. The standard netbook version (S10-3) does not have the Atom N470 model available yet.
Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t Atom N470 specs:
10.1” 1024 x 600 display (multi-touch)
Atom N470 processor (1.83GHz)
2GB RAM
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
GMA 3150 graphics
802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
Bluetooth 2.1+EDR"

Screen shot is employee's pricing, BTW.

 

If I want to dual boot the TM2 with XP, which xp should I use XP or XP Tablet PC edition.

I thought I read somewhere that the XP Tablet edition pretty much sucked, I can recall where I saw that though.

If XP Tablet edition is the way to go, would it be a mission to get all those extra drivers not traditionally needed on regular xp, ie wacom, etc?

Edit: I found the Wacom drivers they seem to be universal.

Also, the drivers/software for the TM2 are on the HP site. And, it's nice to see that they included XP. But, there's no mention of XP Tablet edition-which could be because, I think they originally only came OME.

Is it even worth it to mess around with XP Tablet edition.

Frankly, I just want to dual boot to XP not for tablet features but for some pesky programs that seem to only work at the moment on XP 32bit.

But, if at the same time I could have some tablet features on it, I'll take it. But, if it's going to be a headache then i'm not interested.

 

I assume you've tried to run them in a VM.

XP tablet edition isn't worth it. They use to come on the X61

 

Does anyone know some specifics about the display of the Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t? you guys think it is good for inking? As a student i want to use it for taking notes during the lectures. therefore it is my highest criteria.

personally, i like the hp tm2 very much, and i guess it fullfils all my needs, but the price. it is just a little out of my price range, especially since it will be priced at 899€ in europe. then i saw the lenovo ideapad, and thought, ok it wont be a substitute to the hp, has less power, but if the inking is as good as the hp one, i could settle with the it.

Anybody knows something?

 

Only price on the tm2 here in the north of europe, Finland/sweden have been about 1050€. Pre-set configs only.
HP TM2-1090EO 1050€

Do you know any other sites with similar or other configurations?

FYI. First time poster but long time lurker, been following this thread since page 25 =D. I´m an electric-engineer student with a minor in japanese. Will need a new laptop/netbook within the next 1-8months in class, because we will use matlab/mathcad instead of HP-50s and therefore I want to get a tablet to be able to do native-kanji-practise and note-taking.
始めまして、私は西門です、よろしく。 (サイモン

 

The HP TM2 and the Lenovo s10-3t are not comparable when it comes to inking. The TM2 has a Wacom digitizer that activates only when it's special pen touches the screen, simultaneously disabling its finger touch screen.

The s10-3t is designed to only work with your fingers and not a stylus at all. You would have to buy a special stylus that works with capacitive screens to even get it to respond. Writing would also mean you write with your palm off the screen as it has no way of knowing when you're trying to write something or if you're just poking the screen. Plus, capacitive touch screens are inaccurate and do not record movement/touch with as much precision or speed.

If you want a cheap inking experience, your options include brand new tx2 (problems mentioned numerous times), refurb tablets (not bad price wise), and the unique resistive touchscreen Intel Convertible Classmate (too small and looks kind of silly; there is a redesign coming if you want to wait)

 

I like the Slate. If Acer is having problems with the hinge, maybe also sell a version without the keyboard?

 

for those ordering from HP.com, this coupon will save you 10$ SVP54664

 

Question: Greta Schlender: What makes this year, 2010 year of the slate?

Answer: (Not really telling us the whole truth) Phil McKineey: The reason we picked 2010 is the optimal year for the slate platforms around the product called perfect storm of innovation.

What he's really trying to say: The reason we picked 2010 is the optimal year for the slate platforms around the product called iSlate by apple

 

I still can't order the thing in japan ((

 

Well, the user guide and drivers for TM2 are up on HP's site

 

On the sister forum people who just recieved it are telling their impressions

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?p=172703&posted=1#post172703

 

Obviously Acer is having issues with their tablet. Maybe we will have to wait till mid-March

 

Thanks! Another interesting thread to follow.

 

Well the iPad is now official. Keyboard dock a win, size, thickness and weight, all a win. Ips panel, complete win.. but no stylus. What is it with these companies leaving off the stylus?

 

There are a few wins, mainly in the aesthetics department. But...

No flash in web browsing, still - fail.
No camera/video - fail.
No usb port - fail.
No multi-tasking - epic fail.

I'm not willing to give those up for aesthetics.

 

Is there any way to enable the wacom active digitizers with their wireless technology on the Acer 1420P / 1820PTZ series?

 

Absolutely NOT. it requires a piece as big as the screen to function.

 

Acer is taking too long. They need to update the Core 2 Duo to ulv Core i5/i7.

 

the new culvs won't be out for some time.

 

Didn't you say that Asus is going to update their UL series with the ULV Core "i" processors pretty soon? I believe these ULV processors were launched in CES 2010 the same time as the other processors but we won't see them in notebooks until the end of the year.

I'd also like to see the Acer 1410/1810 and rebranded Gateway EC models with these new processors.

 

I agree with everything except for this. Flash is a ridiculous solution to media streaming/web design and needs to be phased out. I hope Google/Apple gets rid of it with their push in HTML5...I means seriously what version are we on and yet we still need a buggy beta to get any kind of decent CPU usage from streaming flash.

Also where's that revolutionary haptic feedback keyboard...

It seems slates aren't meant to be productive...they're meant for touch and entertainment and no one is making any strides to change this =\.

 

I can live without flash and I hate camera options on laptop since I never use it. But no USB and no Multi-tasking is a fail also..

 

Yes, Asus is readying new 13" UL30's and new 14" UL80's with Core i7 620UM's and 640UM's for launch very soon along with a new U30. There are threads on all three in the Asus section.

Also, I too eagerly await an updated 1810 with the Core i7 640UM. Would buy it and replace my 3810t.

 

This here person said:
Yes @HappyDrew, the apple tablet is running an iphone os flavor with ability to have multiple apps running at same time (ie pandora, browser
10:49 PM Jan 26th from UberTwitter in reply to HappyDrew

Still, 3h of battery life in heavy use (!= ebookreader-mode) makes it seem more like a multimedia toy than an alternative to the tm2.

 

Interesting, I thought it was suppose to get 10 hours on battery. Even if apple clears it up and says it can multi task, it still has no stylus. When I saw they modified iWork I was really hopeful they made a stylus for input. Wow was I disappointed. The iPad is more about absorbing content then creating. It at least has a purpose. This is what the slates we saw at CES were missing.

Lenovo was so very close to having it right as far as netbook solutions go. But they to left off the digitizer. Now I'm back to waiting again or just settling for a 5 pound TM2 with a hump.

 

See it in a positive way, "mobile" devices now even increase your stamina, isn't that great ?

Would you consider the Lenovo s10-3t as an option for the annoyingly delayed Acer?

I just wonder, if on one of them you might be able to write up to 3 - 4 pages with inking.
Well, probably not, as far somebody before stated.

But the HP TM2 is really out of my price range, which would end somewhere above 500 $ / €.

 

Although, now that I think about it, the iPad was running iPhone OS 3.2. Its suppose to be running version 4.0 which hasn't been released yet. The iPhone doesn't multi task..

I bet it might be built into 4.0.. That would make sense and it would be why the iPad wasn't muliti tasking. Plus going from 3.0 to 4.0 means there is a huge revision of the software.

Still, no inking makes it a hard sale for me.

 

I still find it hard to justify the extra cost of the tm2. I dont need the graphics on a mobile device (4500 should be sufficient for hd-video playback) and taking notes with pen and paper has its upsides (screen resolution, multiple screens (read a book on 1820ptz - write on paper, sharing possibilities), haptic feedback, active digitizer). For 300 extra I could easily get an Intel x-25 SSD, which should have much more of an impact on every-day-usage-scenario-speed. So its 1820ptz+SSD vs. tm2 for me now.

No, it's got a single core Atom-processor (vs dual core), small screen resolution, and only 1GB of RAM (vs 4GB). A netbook with these specs comes around 250€, so you'd be paying 230€ (or the approximate equivalent in your country) for the touch capabilities.

 

Flash will not always exist, it is on its way out. HTML5 is replacing it.

 

Uh...that's great and all but I never said death to youtube or death to flash games. Does the iPhone have flash? Does Android? WebOS? How many of those people enjoy youtube and playing games?

For some reason you also associate all those things as being the creation of flash. It's not. Yes, it is the standard for now but there can be better ways to accomplish those things. AKA HTML5 which streams videos with regular H264 Codec. Imagine streaming 720p anime and not have your CPU choke on flash.

Also 1820P+SSD isn't a bad idea, even for note taking. You can type most of the notes with occasional Math Panel Input/drawing graphs with the stylus.

As for the 1420P, the biggest difference is the lower battery life and it doesn't seem to have a Pen mode like the 1820P does. If you can grab that driver off of Acer's website or something I imagine they're the same functionally.

 

Flash isn't super necessary. But for a device that big, no flash support makes little sense when a cheaper netbook will give you a true web experience.