Acer Aspire 1810 Tablets Thread

It seems, that the Acer 1820PTZ will not be delivered before the 2nd March of 2010 ( source).

 

Well after the slew of disappointing tablets at CES and from Apple, I decided I'd waited long enough. I ordered the HP TM2. It has all the features I want, a decent price and I'll just have to live with the weight issue. At any rate I have the 21 day return policy to decide if Its to heavy for me. I really hope I like it because I could not stand the TX2 but it had more then just weight going against it.

 

The weight could be helped if you were carrying around the power adapter before and now can ditch it because of the TM2's greater battery life.

 

The one problem the Tx2 had was heat. They say this has been fixed with this model. I could probably live with the extra weight but heat I don't compromise on at all. I've found there is something wrong with every model I've looked at. The HP at least has every feature I wanted. The better video card was a surprise bonus.

Anyone know what the ATI card is comparable to? So far going by 3D mark06 the closest I found was a 7600GT. That means it shouldn't have any trouble running some half way decent games like Wow or Lotro etc..

 

The extra weight isn't a big deal. My XT2 with a bat slice is about the same weight.

 

Since this is now the TM2 thread, here is a video with both the TM2 and TX2:

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Thanks, great video.

 

It's everything I expected in an upgraded tx2.

The Wacom screen was a big surprise though and a welcome back.

 

One thing I did like about the TX2 was the track pad. It could have been bigger, but it had a dip to it so that when you ran you hand over it while typing you didn't accidentally swipe the track pad. It was overboard on the plastic though, that was try, but it had a nice feel to it. The TM2 looks miles better though. If they fixed the heat then it may not so bad. We'll see.

 

The iPad to have a stylus? handwriting? Coming soon....

It's allegedly in the prototype phase.

So who knows when it will be out. I know one thing by their second and third gen they will prob perfect it.

I will buy one regardless the day it gets Jailbroken

The iPad to have a stylus handwriting? Coming soon....

On another note, I wonder if the 1820P was held back because of well documented recall they just had. Regardless, they dropped the ball somewhere and lost much sales. I was ready to buy, till the TM2 popped up at the CES.

 

LMAO

I look forward to what you have to say.

I almost backed out of mine at the last minute, because of the slant issue, so I went to cancel and they dropped $100 plus student bonus, saved over $200. So far I think its a keeper.

Switchable graphics was a pleasant surprise and some mentioned it but others said it was not possible, at least on this particular unit.

Battery life is about 5 hours. Inking wise on a scale of 0-10 I give it 9.5.

 

Glad to hear you like it. So the slant isn't a issue then? I would much prefer it stuck out the back so you can grip the battery like a handle.

From your previous post maybe there is hope for the iPad. I'll probably wait a generation or two. The 3G plan is fantastic for it price wise. I'd rather they make a keyboard that the display can lock into. That dock adapter looked tacky to me for a Apple product.

I think that whole meeting with the iPad felt rushed. The icons didn't look right on it either. Like it was still sized for tie iPhone. In 2 months they might come back with a slew of new features that make me regret I hadn't waited. I've been waiting 4 or 5 months already. I could wait forever, there is always something better around the corner.

Like in this thread. I came here knowing I was buying the Acer, which shifted to Lenovo, then Fujitsu, then the iPad which shifted to HP lol.

 

Well the slant is an issue if you try to ink w/it vertically. Which is the way I was hoping I would have inked.

But as soon as I got it, I had to turn it horizontal, its more comfortable that way. You will see and I think you may even agree once you ink on it.

I also would have preferred for the battery to stick out the back. Though, it did look ugly, i'm sure its more user friendly when it came to the ergonomics of inking.

 

Flash is going away. Nobody said it would happen soon, it will take a while, but HTML5 will eventually replace or become larger than it. For example, Vimeo and Youtube already stream videos via HTML5.

 

What? How is that even logical...who said they would be forced to do anything. That would be like AOL filing law suits against broadband. If there's a new standard, they can adjust or just stick to their guns if they want to.

You're also taking this too literally or something. I'm not saying yank Flash off the face of the Earth all at once. I'm saying I hope there's a movement towards something else. Of course it's not going to happen overnight, moving towards a new standard will take years. And even then, there's going to be sites that stick with flash. I mean, there are Java gaming websites too, don't see any law suits from them.

 

Exactly. So back on topic, what does this new information mean for the tablets this thread was supposedly about:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/01/acer-not-making-a-tablet-will-focus-on-ultra-thin-laptops/

 

Acer is talking about not making tablets with no keyboard, not convertible notebooks like the 1420/1820.

 

How is the HP TM2 screen? Anyone who can compare to the 1820PT, in terms of viewing angles, color reproduction,...

Which resolution do you find best/more appropriate, the pc std of the TM2 1280x800 or the HD std of the 1820, 1366x768?
This HD screen resolutions are becoming more and more popular, but aside from openig the possibility to watching 720p movies, I am not sure the extra V pixels are more valuable than the H pixels...

 

Thanks for bringing this up. Color range, reproduction and consistent colors from different angles is also an issue for me.

I'm also interested in comparisons with the FujitsuSiemens T4310 and T4410 (the problem with the latter: there are many versions and configurations out there, but the T4410 configs may have better screens, based on some reviews I read).

My angle is that I would like to use the TM2 or T4310 / T4410 for editing of my photos, color corrections and such. (Of course after calibration of the screen with my Spyder Elite Pro calibrator).

My take is that the screen of the 1820PTZ would probably not have enough color depth (gamut) for my taste. Not sure if the 1820PT will have a better screen.

For photo corrections (RAW-file handling and such) I'm currently often using the (calibrated) LED-lit screen of my 2-yr old Dell XPS M1330 (my configuration was $2000,=). For a laptop, my M1330 has quite a good color range and I get quite good results. Also the colors are very consistent, angle-independent.

 

!!!! im also interetest in the hp tm2, next to the acer 1820, but this IS THE WRONG FORUM!!!!

go to this sister forum
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?t=30045&page=22

and guess what, all ur answers have already been asked and broadly answered there.


however,
this is the ACER 1820 forum

so if u don't want to post news about the acer 1820, but the hp, then u are not welcomed here.

 

Excuse me but it says "Newbie" under your username, not "Moderator".

There has been lots of info on the 1820pt in this thread. Thank God it also contains info about other tablet options. Would've been boring as hell if it was only about the 1820pt and its endless delays.

If you got more info about the 1820pt then by all means post it, but I personally have benefitted hugely from the additional postings about other tablets in this thread.

 

Part 2 and Part 3 of the TM2 Review videos.

 

i know, that this forum has a lot of news, since i followed it from page 10. only cause i didnt post during that time, doesnt mean i'm new here.
i'm just saying, different treat exist for a reason.
if i want updated news for the hp, i check the hp forum
if i want updated news for the acer, i check this forum.
if i want to post something for the hp tm2, i post it in the hp forum,
if i want to post something for the acer, i post it here.
otherwise it'll be off topic.
its just so boring to read all these hp questions, which have already been adressed in the hp forum.i always see see replies but, get excited but none are concering the topic of this threat........ made me think.

 

thx for the videos, but fyi, for all ppl interested in the hp tm2, those videos were published on the website i quoted before, a little earlier.... so just fyi. nevertheless we should not forget to give the credits to mobiletechreview.

 

It may be a little off the original subject but I think we are all here to get the best tablet. If that means sharing info on other tablets then I want to hear it. If that means comparing what the Acer has to offer against Apple or the HP TM2, then may the best model win.

Most of us weren't satisfied with what the Acer had to offer, especially in inking and thats why we branched off onto other tablets. I would think anyone would want the best tablet they can get for their money.

 

Thank you! for the voice of reason.

WT*? if this person would get of his high horse and would have been reading since page 10 then he/she would have seen how many times we have compared and contrasted so many different tablets, while we waited for the elusive 1820p.

And now he/she is going to say something! Too little too late. Or many months too late if you will.

Hell, just look at the thread its called 1810 Tablet, so technically we shouldn't even discuss the 1820 since this is the 1810 thread, lol.

While we may have bent the letter of the forum, we have not broke the spirit of it.

In conclusion, blame Acer not us.

I vote he/she gets banned for being so anal (close minded). While viewers/readers may be good for forum traffic/ads, it's the posters who have contributed to so much info here.

Now what to what this thread has evolved into:

Btw, I took the TM2 to my classes for note taking. And I have to report the slant became an issue several times

For in a desk, theres not much real estate to work with.

Plus, sadly I think I may be leaning to the idea that for pure note taking, a slate may be the answer.

 

The 1410p is now being offered in a few shops here in Taipei for ~$800 US.
(My second experience, I played with one at an electronics expo last month)

Spent 10 minutes yesterday and continued to find it unpleasant.
Performed quite poorly, possibly because it was the on-display unit.
An annoying delay between finger movement and display response,
like 1/2 second. Did not think to use the pen, sorry.
Feels so clunky and different from my 1810TZ.
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Oh.. a brief event related to the build-quality of my 1810TZ.
My wild little two year Poodle often flies thru the air to land on
our sofa. Last week he landed on the corner of my 1810TZ
which was sitting on the sofa's arm. The machine flipped around
and landed upright on our tile floor. Still running. No need to reboot.
Damage confined to a single claw indentation on the palm rest.
See the photos. Good machine, bad dog!
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And interesting to some here a short video of Google's Chromium tablet OS.

 

Well he's definitely not wrong, we've gotten off track in many different directions in this thread. But really, who can blame us. This is a 75 page thread right now and there is definitely not 75 pages of news and information on these constantly delayed tablet.

Unfortunate to hear the slant being a problem, it looks like a pretty severe slant from the images I've seen. Always preferred the Thinkpad style to extended batteries (I think they even reduced their extended battery on the x200 tablet from 9 cell to 8 cell to prevent a slant), but then everyone always comes back with the 'ergonomic' typing experience from the bumps.

 

That is also why I ask, though I do not need such high standards because I'll edit my photos on my desktop.

I agree with bozo8787, this double_shooter should be banned.

 

I'd say if you want an Acer 1820 Tablet discussion, maybe it should be moved to the following thread on the sister site....

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?t=29422

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Michael

 

Any thoughts on the 1280x800 vs. 1366x768 resolution...?

 

I'd suspect 720p video would look better on the 1280x800 screen since can basically display at 1:1 without any scaling. For most documents and webpages that are viewed vertically, the slightly longer vertical res on the 1280x800 might help but 32 pixels isn't a lot of difference. The wider screen aspect ratio on the 1366x768 will allow you to view documents at two-up, full-screen, zoomed to page-width (although the text will be quite small).

For me I'd take the 1366x768...

 

I think you mean that 720p looks better on the 1366x768, where there will be only 24 pixels broad black bands on top and below, and no scaling.

I agree that for web browsing, and for most pc apps (like the 2007 office std layout which uses half the screen with huge toolbars) the pc resolutions are more adequate.

In the 1920 vert resolutions there is not much of discussion, since the 16:10 pc std can also display full hd without scaling (1200 to display 1080).

But the HD and PC resolutions are converging...and it is the PC following the HD, and not the contrary. These days it is getting more and more difficult to find e.g. 1920x1200 24'' screens, mostly because the process manufacturing is cheaper for the 16:9 1920x1080.

Anyway, the only thing that keeps me in doubt for the TM2 is actually the screen resolution, because I intend to use it quite a lot for picture sorting and watching movies while on the go. And for this, and because it seems to be more future proof observing the current trend, the 1366x768 is better (no scaling for videos, and slightly more real estate for photos).

I still have to wait for some time until the TM2 or the 1820 come to Europe...it can be that in the meantime someone else (Asus?) will come with a 1,5Kg 11.6in 1366x768 with everything else as in the TM2...(I'll contine dreaming...)

 

I would say that the HP TM2 is already here in europe.
Best so far pricewise and specwise I would say the TM2-1090 to be, in germany you can get it frpom hp with 2 years warranty and the su7300, dedicated gfx, 4gb ram, 320gb HDD etc for 899€ (-48€ with rebate) 851€ or if you´re a german student you can get the same model for 811.07€ (-25€ rebate included).
Several austrian webshops also claim to have it and their Hp preferred partners 2010 too, then the price is about 850€, same specs.

More related info in the sister-thread.
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?t=30045&page=74


Edit: And I want one too, badly! =(
Here in finland their lsited at 1050-1100€ for the tm2-1090 model.

 

The Packard Bell Butterfly Touch, which seems to be identical in construction to the Acer Series appears to be quite remarkable for its type when it comes to inking.
Have a look at this little review on youtube and tell me what you think .

 

Great video. Confirms great battery life at the very least.

Too bad it didn't comment on how far the screen can tilt back before tipping.

Shows inking is much better without a 'Pen mode', it came out fast (though jagged-y). Although using the TIP inside One Note is redundant, you're suppose to write directly onto One Note

 

Yea.. great video.
And this machine with its SU4100 is clearly faster than the on-display SU2300 1420p that I played with last week.

 

In Spain will be available next 22 of february for the same price 899 euros, BUT the processor will be the SU4100 and will have the graphics card ATI HD4550 as shown in the spanish HP site:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/es/es/ho/WF04a/321957-321957-3329744-3835813-3835813.html

I prefer the SU7300, because I will use it for small photo retouching in the basketball court and to send the photos to the newspapers. What do you think about the difference in performance of both processors using programs as Photoshop or capture NX?

I was decided to buy the TM2, but if they have the same processor I am considering again the 1820PTZ, specially because the weigh difference (I will transport in my backpack together with some lenses and cameras and 400gr is a nice difference). The 1820PTZ seems will be available here aprox. the same dates (if it is not delayed again). The only doubt is the quality of the display when used with the pen for retouching :-(

What do u think?

 

I would say if you don´t have a low pricelimit (like 700€ is the absolute) then for all means go the better machine.The TM2 is so much the ultimate tablet for those seeking one under 1000€/$.
I too was so excited about the acer 1820pt (not the ptz) before christmas, but then they delayed and dealyed and then hp dropped the bomb TM2. A tablet that has almost anything I wanted (13,3" screen would have been fantastic though =D).

Depending on what language specific keyboard you need and if it matters to you, then either the german or the US model will do just fine.
One of the best thing though by ordering from germany/austria is that there seems to be some law/comsumer right thingy there. HP and their resellers in germany/austria gives 2 years international guarantee compared to HP/finland/USA and my finnish reseller as well. At least for me this would be one of the greater selling points since the price is the same and the specs are even a tad bit better than in finland.

The previous generation of this tablet-series had their failures as too hot gfx/cpu. These should have been solved by now but 2 years warranty gives an edge I think. Furthermmore, I need their ö ä å/u.

Many reseller lists the TM2-1090 (7300, hd4550) model for 850€ =D

 

Please Delete

 

It might be that the 1820 arrives at the same time of the tm2 here in the north of Europe. If that is the case, is there anyone still in doubt...?

Here it is what it still makes me doubt:

Acer advantages
- cheaper
- ligther and smaller, more portable
- "better" resolution (personal preference)
- longer battery life (though 5 or 8h does not make such a difference to me since I'll rarely use it that long at the time without an electrical plug nearby anyway)

HP advantages
- better touchscreen, specially for inking (though don't think I'll use it much...since I'll probably write mostly text, and it is faster with the keyboard anyway)
- better built, aluminum
- much nicer design
- better keyboard and touchpad
- more prestigeful
- potentially more powerful/configurable with a few options (though probably not here )

I guess it will all depend on the price difference and arrival for me to pull the trigger. Why does it have to take so long... ?

If I was in the US, I think I would have bought a tm2 already...

 

I am tired and annoyed of waiting for Acer to release the 1820ptz / 1420p.
That's why I thought if a tablet and wireless keyboard might serve the same purposes such as typing texts, surfing and, most important, taking notes with a pen on pdf-documents.

 

Problem is there aren't any new tablets coming out on the consumer level that have active digitziers. They're all capacitive/resistive touch which is not good enough for real inking. And plus it's not exactly easy to setup a completely flat slate at a good angle to type with unless it comes with its own stand.

 

1820 has a better processor, more ram, larger hard drive.

 

Any possible date for the release? I have been checking on the release date online almost everyday...Hopefully I won't get disappointed once it arrives

 

...but the 1420p is real.

Seriously though, I'm mad at myself for not buying the 1420p from the Microsoft Dev conference, I had talked them down to $600 shipped. Argh.

 

Well, the 1420P is out... but only if you live in France:
http://www.liliputing.com/2010/02/acer-aspire-1420p-touchscreen-tablet-now-available-in-france.html

 

I would say 15% at most would be the SU7300's advantage over the SU2300, less so for the SU4100. And this is in benchmarks, it would be less noticeable in practical use. Although, I know the SU2300 cannot handle 1080P flash without Flash 10.1, I don't know how well the SU4100/SU7300 handles it.

 

AnandTech pegs the difference between the su2300 and su4100 as 15%, and between the su2300 and su7300, 20%.

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3735

 

I don't know how they measure this 20%...but I find it hard to beleive that the SU9600 is 50% better than the 2300, and therefore 30% better than the 7300...