Acer Aspire 1810 Tablets Thread

You know, with how often I have to wipe my iPhone's screen, I'm thinking a touch-screen computer would be pure hell......any thoughts on the practical aspects of a touch-screen computer and the screen getting dirty, greasy, streaked & caked with fingerprints?

 

Well, all the tabletPCs that I know of use a plastic covering over their LCDs and not glass like the iPhone. So it doesn't look like the glass front doors of my workplace.

 

And remember that such tablet also has other forms for input, such as keyboard, trackpad, and possibly mouse if one wishes so. Therefore, one does not necessarily use the touch screen all the time, like you have to do on your phone, unless you use a BT keyboard/mouse.

But anyway, I suppose it is obvious that one has to clean it more often than a non-touchscreen laptop.

 

Hi, thanks for all the infos.

I've found this article in an Italian website specialised in tablet pc:
http://tabletpcitalico.blogspot.com/2009/12/acer-aspire-timeline-1820pt-e-acer.html

Inside the article there is a video in english. I think it is very interesting (but bad news) for the screen type in 1420 tablet version.
I imagine the screen type will be the same of the 1820 pt and ptz (but I hope not...).

Thanks,

Santibaylor

 

A lol don't worry, that's the video a guy posted a while back about his pdc version. Even if all the screens had that problem you could solve it like that guy in just a few mins, but that was prolly cause of faulty assembly on that particular unit.

 

The problem is not that one monitor can be faulty.

The problem is that, according to the info around the net, the digitizer will be passive resistive, which is inadequate for digital inking -- which is the main distinctive feature of tablets and slates.

For inking you want an active digitizer, or eventually a dual technology (active/passive like n-trig or latest wacom). Resistive, or even Stantum is not enough for serious work.

If the 1820pt is really going to have a resistive screen I call it a FAIL.

 

I'm embarrassed, I couldn't wait any longer and decided to get the MS PDC 2009 version.

 

Like I posted some time ago in this thread, passive now seems to be good for inking if it uses the same technology as the asus tm91. Some people said that it didn't have pressure sensitivity, but then the same guy showed that it had.

And like I posted some pages ago there was one onetnote image from a review from the pdc version and the inking looked great. Just look at it closely:


This tablet has everthing cleared hardware wise , only 2 problems remain:
1. if it will have palm rejection software or not, and how good it is.
2 When can we buy it ALRDY for crying out loud.

 

This is my first tablet so I'm not sure how you check for palm rejection. If it's as easy as opening OneNote and trying to draw while your palm touches the screen then i'd say it doesn't have it.

For the tablet to pick up your pen/finger it needs to be the only thing touching the screen (at least in OneNote; Paint will accept 2 independent sources)

 

I see , well the pdc version and the retail version are gonna be different so let's hope the later comes with the software, in which case you could also download it to yours.

Btw, how does it feel while writing even without palm rejection? Do you imagine yourself being able to write on it notes for an entire class?

 

I have been tracking this thread for months now, because a convertible "netbook" for under 600-700 $ is what I'm looking for.
It would fit my needs quite well.

Unfortunately it seems that bad news are up to come.
According to this comment at netbooknews.de the Acer will not be released until mid january 2010.
Let's just hope, that this stays a rumor.

 

Wow, that's a first to have the 1820pt and FAIL in the same sentence. Perhaps more due diligence is needed on this long awaited item. Too many peeps are banking on this for it to be consider another tablet thats just full of hype.

 

Looks like the 11.6” Packard Bell Butterfly Touch tablet notebook
(rebranded Acer Aspire 1820PTZ) is now available for sale in France.

Hopefully this is an indication of some activity and we can get the Acer's here in the USA soon.

http://netbooked.net/blog/packard-bell-butterfly-touch-stock-shows-up-in-france/

 

You can just try this yourself...get a pencil and a paper. If you're thinking of taking notes like you would on paper with that style, I wouldn't say it's impossible, but for me it's tiresome and handwriting becomes terrible.

It'll be even worse if the stylus is small. Then again, if it's passive digitizer then you can use anything you want (click pen?)

 

Taking notes during a whole 2 hour lecture can be a bit of a cramp on the hands. I take noted during 2 hour meetings and I'm usually light on the notes. In these settings, typically, having a laptop screen flipped up along with the clanking of keys can be a bit of a distraction for the speaker. So I choose slate mode.

The handwriting will never replace typing. People type far far faster than they writes.

The handwriting aspect comes in most handy in marking up PDFs/Scans.

 

Yeah you're right, typing is much more practical for noting words. But in lectures I could be writing on power points or taking notes in Calc/Physics, so writing would be very convenient.

 

Sorry I didn't wanted to sound so negative.

Like sharaktengu wrote, hardware wise the 1820pt is close to perfect...

If that's your first tablet, then maybe you could not possibly realize how much different is active VS passive resistive digitizer. I haven't tested this Acer, but what I've seen doesn't make me enthusiast.

If you are a long time tablet user you know you want active or hybrid technology. Also that's the future, clear inking and smooth touch is were HP, Dell, Lenovo, Fujitsu are going -- I highly doubt Acer has a cheaper, more efficient technology.

Putting out a tablet that does half the job of a tablet is, IMHO, a fail.

Of course I still hope Acer will surprise me.

 

To correct a previous posting...
The 1420P Tablet soon to be released in Taiwan
does NOT have a functional 3G module receptor.

This, in spite of the largest telecom company here, Chunghwa,
advertising reduced pricing for the Tablet (with a 3 year contract).
Chunghwa provides a free USB 3G module. Which does have the advantage
of being swappable into more than one computer.

Notice the brochure has an icon for the 8-hour battery.
Could be a mistake since its the 1410P, not the 1810P.

 

You can write on it, but it doesn't feel very practical. I think typing is muchfaster.

 

Well equations for math and graph stuff , and mind maps.

 

I don't think anyone here can type as fast as I write (on paper) at an algebra or physics class, for example.

Typing can be faster for words only, but that is also it. And if it is just words you want to, then you are better off with a sound recorder.

Hand writing is, and will be for some time now, much more flexible!

 

That sounds promising for us here in the rest of europe.

Anyone in France visiting Carrefour? According to the site below, the brother Packard Bell Butterfly Touch should be on stock, for a very interesting price tag:

http://online.carrefour.fr/Produits...640&CC={F43371DD-B069-4A72-8FC0-7855E3981131}

The bad news are that in other site where the 1820 PTZ is available for pre-order, states a release date of 25th of January 2010...

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/13027...uch-Screen-Windows-7-Professiona/Product.html

 

Concerning Germany, netbooknews.de asked the online store Cyberport for information about the availability of the Acer 1420P / Acer 1820PTZ.

Some shops which receive their product directly from Aver might bringt it out just before Christmas, while the others will probably not recieve it before January, the 25th, 2010.

 

Baahhh... I think I'm done waiting... this Fujitsu T4310 just looks too sweet at only $1099 (after $50 mail in).

 

If you can spring for the Fujitsu then there is no reason to wait for this.

Full fledged C2D processor, hybrid digitizer (pen only and 2 finger multi-touch), and optical drive. Although, battery life is reportedly ~4 hours in balance mode and it's quite hideous, but that one's personal preference.

 

When you get your tablet, don't forget to download this.

 

It has a modular bay where you can pop in a 2nd battery instead of the optical drive (or 2nd hard drive). So 8 hours is still doable

I agree it's not as pretty, but that's nearly a non-issue for me.

I haven't made up my mind yet... cost is an issue (although $1099 seems more than reasonable)... but the biggest issue is I need something for early in the new year :\

 

Netbooked posted the 1820PTZ will start selling on Jan 25th in the UK.

 

I'm not sure but I think that was first posted here in this thread

 

I've been following the 1820PT for awhile, but with all the delays and lack of info I'm thinking about jumping ship too. I hadn't looked at the T4310 before, but it might be what I go for. It's a shame on the battery life, but the extra power might make up for it.

I was curious about your comment on its looks, but all of the pictures I found seemed fairly similar to the 1820PT except a bit thicker. They all look like marketing shots though, so are there other pictures out there that show it more objectively?

 

If you can get a acer/gateway/packard bell tablet b4 christmas then go ahead. But once january's CES ends, I can see how we all switch to other new tablet threads. Repeating this waiting game.

 

It's just very boxy and thick. If it doesn't strike you as unappealing at a glance then there's nothing else about it that would suddenly make it ugly to you.

As for all those jumping ship or losing faith in Acer, two decent alternatives so far include the 8.9 Inch Intel Classmate (if you have small hands or don't care about the keyboard) for $500 and the recently mentioned Fujitsu t4310 for $1100. A review for the Intel Classmate and the Fujitsu.

They're both very nice in my opinion. The Classmate is the smaller form factor, resistive touch screen that only accepts sharp point inputs, meaning it has palm rejection. It's slightly sluggish with its Atom and slower HD but it is a netbook at heart. The t4310 is twice the price and you really get enough benefits to justify it (see spec sheet or review).

Also they're both out now.

 

So, I was wrong. The week has gone by and no major update. Only news we've gotten is a depressing release date of January 25.

I'm not jumping ship, mainly because I'm not in *urgent* need of a laptop...but would've been nice to be able to play with it during the holidays...

As for the Intel and Fujitsu...I'm not much for the Atom and the Fujitsu looks like a brick.

 

Have you guys read this feedback on the PDC's 1420p deadzone fix? It's not very encouraging. I gave up on the waiting game and bought the UL30VT, but I still yearn for a small tablet. I just hope the delay is so they don't ship out useless crap.

 

Yeah the late January thing sucks. It would mean spring semester would of started and you would have to wait for even longer to see reviews and feedback on the tablet.

Right now the tablet already has negative feedback on build quality, like weak hinge and touch screen dead zones. With the fact that palm rejection was not found on the PDC 1420p, sets this up to be a disappointment.

Now I'm wondering if I can stretch my budget to get a Fujitsu or if I want to run a two computer set up with the Intel Classmate.

 

Also coming soon is HP's new TM2 tablet. Maybe it and Acer's will launch at CES?

 

got the t4310 three weeks ago and absolutely love it. battery life is under 4 hours, but fine for my purposes. very solid feeling overall, keyboard better than any laptop i have owned (this is my fifth) and all but a couple desktop keyboards. hinge feels solid and screen holds its position perfectly at any angle. touch responsiveness for scrolling up and down and right to left in an Acrobat document is close to instantaneous,with that luscious slow-to-stop feature if you gesture. not quite as good in responding to pen clicks, but it is possible to learn how to get a response the first try 95% of the time. haven't used the machine with an art program yet, so not sure about the degrees of pressure, but handwriting looks pretty natural. fan operates perhaps 50% of the time but surprisingly not annoying (I once got a fanless laptop because the fans often bother me so much). feels nearly weightless in my backpack. if you are looking for a cheap cover for the thing, the Belkin F8N101-BR-DL fits, though very, very snugly (I don't think so snugly as to stress the zipper, though). so far no processor issues, running an acrobat substitute (bluebeam revu), firefox, Word, Excel, and a jpg viewer simultaneously. wi-fi receptivity, as with a previous fujitsu with the atheros recievers, seems a cut above, but this is purely an impressionistic comparison (albeit from the same carrel in a university library using different machines)

 

Well there is literally no information on the TM2 even out right now so if it some how manages to come out at the same time as Acer's then I would be impressed.

Personally I'm not a fan of HP in general. They like to go with AMD for consumer level products and it makes no practical sense (see tx2z).

 

Supposedly this could have Intel processors (maybe?) and no optical drive.

 

Where are you getting that info? Obviously they could have it, I just doubt they will.

 

Well it looks like the tm2 is the child of the tx2 and hp envy series

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?t=29408

 

Nice, probably will have Arrandale. CES will be great!

 

=o that's definitely interesting, Aluminum body. Although that probably means it'll come at a premium and that would put it out of my range

 

Waiting........waiting...........waiting... Good thing I'm not holding my breath.

 

I'm out. Just today received my dual-core 1410, I'm thrilled with it.

Maybe later in 2010 I'll take a look at these tablets again, but for now....sorry Acer. I would have probably paid an additional $100 or $150 more than for my 1410 for a tablet, but without even as much as a projected delivery date from you guys, I couldn't wait.

 

I'm out too.
Mostly, because I did not like the overall feel of a 1420P
that I played with for a few minutes last week.
But also because of an exceptional price opportunity on an almost new 1810TX.

I tend to pick up a new computer every 6 months or so, and sell the "old" one on eBay. By that time, maybe the 1820P will have proven itself a winner.

 

Wow, the momentum on this thread has really taken a nose dive.

Well we might as well wait for the USB 3.0 to debut next year as well. It has a reported transfer speed of 25GB in 70 secs.

I had the inspiron laptop with 1.1 usb years ago and 4 months later USB2.0 came out. It made my laptop an instant dinosaur back then.

I hope this not happen again to me this time, whenever this 1820pt or other competitor vertible tablet debuts as current king early next year.

 

With USB .30 you fisrt need computers but then devices using it as well. Alos USB 1.1 to 2.0 was a huge perfomance jump. While @.0 to 3.0 is a jump as well, it isn't as high a jump. 1.1 USB made even moderate file size almost unbareable where 2.0 aleviated that. I just don't see 3.0 making that big of an impact.

I think this thread took a dive when it was realized this was not happening before christmas. Personally I think that is a huge mistake for Acer. I too though am now having second thoughts. Although ACER may still with that with the as1810t I am also thinking about a UL30vt. I have a U81a that my daughter will most likely inherit.

 

Intel is not implementing USB 3.0 in its chipsets until 2011, which means you won't see it until the Huron River platform on the Sandy Bridge architecture releases in Q1 2011. That means it won't be on the upcoming tablets since they use Core 2 Duo and it won't be on Arrandale pc's (unless it is in an Expresscard or something else).

 

Just ordered a T4310. Goodbye 1820PT.