Acer Aspire 3820T

congrats on ur new baby! welcome to the cult! haha.

 

Update on the PCI-E bandwidth issue

I reinstalled the Intel chipset drivers as suggested by weinter, reinstalled the Catalyst drivers and disabled PowerPlay & PCI-E Power Management as suggested by lackofcheese.

Seems like the PCI-E problem is gone...3DMark06 score is now 7523 and the PCI-E remains at x16

 

Would there be any problem disabling the pci-e power management? and what does powerplay do anyways?

 

Both of these should help conserve power when using the battery

 

Dam that's a great score. I wonder how much more stress will be put on the cooling system when the GPU is seriously OC'd.

Also glad to hear you have a workaround on the PCI issue. Eventually, Acer will get it straightened out. Maybe.

Also glad to see other owners showing up. It would be nice to compare the I7-620M test results to an I5-420M. Somebody should open up an Owners Lounge thread for the 3820TG or for the TimelineX Models generally.

Bronsky

 

thank you everyone is entitled to their own views i guess.

Glad there is a temporary fix to the pci-e problems now. makes the laptop much more appealing than it already is.

 

Nice! Have fun!

BTW does weinter and lackofcheese's suggestion solved the "switching to full screen mode" issue, or does it still trigger PCI-E to switch back to 1x?

 

YesHHHH agreed with me? I'll have to mark that one down on my calender.

@Yeshhhh - what were you doing up at 5am posting?

@kiskapu - I would guess that power options will have to be disabled to prevent the system from reverting - No?

@all new owners of the 3820TG - I hate you all.

Bronsky

 

Think so...It's be nice to see it rock on full screen.

 

Can you provide information about battery time

 

I used the utility in the clean install thread. It was super easy, just make sure you run the utility as an administrator (right click the shortcut).

I haven't tested my usb boot drive yet, but from what i've read in the thread, that utility works and lets ppl install any version of w7.

haha

i was up most of the night making my usb boot drive! lol

im currently on a x86 win7 laptop, and i ran into some problems making the boot drive.

i downloaded the x64 iso just fine.

stripped the ei.cfg file just fine.

ran the windows 7 usb/dvd boot drive tool just fine.

but when it came to the very last part where the windows 7 usb/dvd program runs bootsect.exe (to make the usb drive bootable), it was giving me an error saying it coudn't make my usb drive bootable.

i think it was because i was making a x64 iso on a x86 laptop, so it couldn't run the bootsect.exe 64bit version.

i searched for a few hours last night and finally found the 32bit version of bootsect.exe. once i swapped the file everything went smoothly and i finished making my usb boot drive at 5am .

the microsoft store provides the x86 version of bootsect.exe on their website, but you only have access to it if you bought a license from that site. most of us are downloading (legally) from digitalriver so that's not an option. thats why it took me a few hours to find the bootsect.exe for 32bit systems.

i suspect you won't run into the same problem, since i imagine you are using only x64 pcs.

but if you or anyone else does happen to try to make the usb boot drive for 64bit systems on an x86 machine, here's the x86 bootsect.exe file. i uploaded it. just follow these instructions.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=18PP3JD7

1. download bootsect.exe from megaupload
2. save the bootsect.exe file to the location where you installed the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool
(e.g. C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Apps\Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool)
3. run the w7 tool again and everything should work fine

 

Had it running in office the whole day, but suspended some times. Done an office install and downloaded several Blizzard games, surfing, writing some meeting notes and so on. I suppose that six hours of office work is realistic.

I ran 3DMark06 for 5 times, average score is between 7400 and 7500. Case temperature after 2 hours of Borderlands gaming with all set to high is more than ok.

Screen is average, but not as bad as some reviews have stated. Swiss config is as follows:

Core I5-430M
4GB RAM
HD 5650
320 GB Harddisk
6 Cel battery

This is a fscking little powerbox.

@Bronsky: Love you too

 

YESHHHHH is this thing coming to May in the states?

 

Previously, the PCI-E would drop to x1 after (maybe even during) 3DMark06 and 3D games in full screen mode. With the workaround, it stays at x16.

 

arclord, can post some screenshot running Furmark?

 

No clue .

I just read in a few review articles that the USA should have these in May.

Only way we'll know for sure is... to wait .

 

A Travelmate 11.6" I3-330UM has just shown up on a US site for preorder. I think that means that we will start to see some new Acer's soon.

 

*does happy dance*

 

@arcloard
Hey, does ur windows often display some chinese word? I installed chrome and the file name ended up in chinese. =\

 

Can this problem be resolved? ( pci 16x - 1x)

i want to buy 3820t, but if problem can't be resolved , i will buy 4820t

ps: my English isn't good , i hope you understand

 

Its seems to be solved for now...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6199290-post102.html

 

can you share ss from everest?

+What is the difference between the GDDR3 and SDR? ( gpu-z memory type)

 

What if you enabled PCI-E Management and enabled PowerPlay?
Could be a Radeon Driver fault or the chipset driver fault because PCI-E is the link between the chipset and the display adapter.
Always remember to update from latest sources never from Acer, they never bother to update.
Cheers and enjoy.

 

A lil help from other 3820TG owner. Can I have screen shot for network adapters in device manager please. I would much appreciate the help. Thnx.

 

I don't have Everest but from GPU-Z you can see the same thing under Bus Interface. When the PCI-E drops to x1, the Bus Interface shows PCI-E x16 @ x1.

The HD5650 should be using 1GB DDR3 so GPU-Z is probably not showing the correct type of memory used.

 

PCI-E drops to x1 after exiting from a 3D game in full screen mode.

 

Here you go.

 

Thnx a lot arclord. ^^

 

THE 3820TG i7core is out on newspaper today! s$2098 =\

 

Is that price included gst?

 

omg when is it coming to Canada t-t

 

I really hope it comes out in May. I want to reward myself after final exams.

 

Will you still reward yourself if you fail?

 

yes, price include gst. if u fly it out of singapore u get tax refund. =)

 

Is that the I7 that they are selling?

Bronsky

No computer to work on today. I7-930/5870 desktop is finished (at least until I can afford another 5870 for xfire). 1410T is done. Dam Acer now I have to go clean the garage.

 

Bronsky, its SGD 2098 for i7-620M and SGD 1698 for i5 520M, included 7% gst
That's if I'm understand it correctly...

 

I still think the I7-620M will sell in the US for $1,200. Now that we're seen the first new Timeline (11.6" Travelmate), I am hoping that we start to see the 13" models. It's odd that not a single I5-540M has shown up on the market, anywhere. That may be their most desirable model and they haven't yet brought it to market. Maybe they'll introduce the I5-540M here in the states (hey! I can dream).

How are the Acer's selling in Singapore? I would think that the higher spec machines will out-sell the lower spec models, regardless of the price. I'm surprised that no large Singapore retailer is offering international shipping.

Well, off to clean the garage. I left the car outside with the top down last night.

Bronsky

Edit: It looks like the MSI GC640 owners were having a similar problem to the 3820TG owners. Just glanced at the headline and thought it might be worth a read.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/476342-gx640-pci-e-x16-x1-problem-other-driver-problems.html

 

the i5 model is up for preorder in many italian webstores.

 

Oh thats great news, now all we need is a i5 or i7 English keyboard spec to be released to online stores that ship internationally.

Edit: Not good - i5 cpus however - Radeon HD5470

 

The Asus N82 was reviewed with an I7-620M and it ran at 85C in the Furmark/Prime test. Makes the Acer 3820TG's 87C max temp look remarkable considering the difference in size, etc. Interesting note in the review.

"The Core i7-620M gets a bit warmer with up to 85°C, which certainly isn't an optimal, but nevertheless still completely harmless rate. So, there's no need to worry about the component's life"

Amen!

Bronsky

 

and not forgetting the different room temperature...

 

acer is slow on updates

 

Do the 3820T and 3820TG have the same chasis? How does the video card slot in and can that slot be used for something else on the 3820T?

The reason I am asking is because I am a Linux user; ATI on Linux sucks and switchable graphics doesn't work anyway, so 3820T is what I want.

 

Those that are really desperate to get this model can do so here: Acer Aspire 3820TG-434G64n W7HP64 - Notebooks - computeruniverse.net

Its the i5 430 and 5650, they do ship internationally i think. Well at least to Europe. The only issue is the German qwertz keyboard.

If someone know where i can get a new 3820 English keyboard I will buy it.

 

same here =)

 

The 3820T (integrated graphics only) may be a completely different machine inside. I would assume that the absence of the GPU would eliminate the need for one of the heat sinks and independent exhaust fan. I have not yet seen a 3820T. Until we do, your question about what you can put in there is hard to answer.

If you don't need the GPU, I would also look at other manufacturers' units which have an I5/I7 and integrated graphics. The 12.1" Lenovo X201 comes to mind immediately. I5/integrated GPU. Far better keyboard and no waiting.

@Lee_what2004 Agreed. It occurs to me, however, don't they have air conditioning in Singapore? Wouldn't that make ambient temps at 20C? Anyway, Amen Brother.

@Hendrickson. Thanks for the link to the German site. It sounds from their disclaimer that they will be handling US keyboards in the future. Acer has committed to a full product release by mid-June in Germany. I would assume that a lot of international customers will be ordering from German sites at that time. This is exactly what happened with the LG P310. Notebook.De sold as many as they could get in stock. Most of them in Europe and a few here in the US. In fact, I don't recall any US distributer ever getting any P310s.

 

Yes they have aircon in singapore, but we don have it switched on 24/7. not cheap you know.

 

1. So in which countries is the 3820 In Stock and readily Available for Sale at this point in time...?!?

2. When is it expected to hit USA...?!?

3. Are Prices in USA generally lowest than all other countries...??

Thanks

 

Lenovo X201 are very far out of budget ($2,300AUD). Considering that the Asus UL30A is now $850AUD, I'd like to not spend no more than $1,500AUD. How long do you think the wait will be on the new TimelineX? If it's going to be a long time, I might just get a UL30A, as it is probably sufficient.

 

$2,300 AUD . We can get the X201 with an I5-520M for $1,099 USD on Lenovo's site and for less from retailers after discounts or Bing cash Back. The problem with buying the UL30A is the SU7300 CPU. The New UL30 will have the UM version of the I5 which has not benchmarked well. You are probably right that the 3820T is the best option for you. I would guess that the 3820T will sell in the $850 range USD. It will be priced at 699E for the German release.

Acer TimelineX 1830T, 3820T, 4820T and 5820T priced - SlashGear

Acer has really struggled with the introduction of this line and I'm afraid that you're not likely to see the 3820T for quite some time. Acer has promised a complete release of the line in Germany. If German retailers have access to US keyboards, they will likely ship internationally.

I would assume that Acer will have revamped its distribution to the rest of Europe as well. Does Austrialia use a UK keyboard? If so, you might be able to have a unit shipped from a UK retailer once they get access to the high spec'ed units.

The US market is the big question mark. With all of Acer's attention focused on the European market, I would assume that US retailers are not going to have access to the complete line of Timelines for another month (I hope I'm wrong). That means that we might see a trickle of units in the hands of retailers.

If you find your model on a German website, there should be no problem ordering from Notebook.De. They handled the LG P310 release very well and I didn't hear anything negative about returns or warranty work. I would have bought a P310 from them but they were sold out by the time I found out that they had the model I wanted. I think that, when they had the P310, the German distributors had UK keyboards as well.

Bronsky