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    Acer Aspire 3820T

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by pals, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. arclord

    arclord Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did you install the chipset drivers?
    My experience is the recovery partition doesn't come with Chipset drivers installed.
    Why?
    Because those *tards working at Acer believe that as long as the laptop looks like it is working, it is enough, so they sometimes left out drivers that are essential to implement certain features you can't see by looking at it.
    For every laptop bought from Acer I recommend a full manual configuration after a clean install.
     
    weinter, Apr 28, 2010
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    With those temps from just a short benchmark stint, I'm a bit worried about say a 2 hour gaming session on this. I think I would settle for a i5 cpu just to make sure I'm not going to run into heat issues later on.

    This German reviewer of a i5 showed that the 3d mark 06 score was almost 7k, he also meantioned the PCI-E issue whereas its running a x1 and not 16x. So that score should go up.

    The system also topped around 80 degrees C vs 89 here, so for around 10 degrees less heat. I'm willing to go for a i5 model with the 5650....

    The review is here: Google Translate
     
    Hendrickson, Apr 28, 2010
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  4. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    When I got my 1410T, I got the Acer recovery disks in the hope that they can be "unpacked" and can be used for a clean install. But, I can't find anybody who has done this. Everybody uses the Windows 7 Image from torrents. Is there a image of the Windows 7 system on the Acer recovery disks? Can you point me to instructions on how to clean install from the disks of am I barking up the wrong tree? :confused:

    Bronsky :cool:
     
    Bronsky, Apr 28, 2010
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  5. arclord

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    Yes, I did install the latest chipset drivers. However, it didn't fix the problem. According to lackofcheese, Catalyst 10.3 fixed the problem for MSI GX640 with HD5850.
     
    arclord, Apr 28, 2010
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    i cant see ss from gpu-z :D
     
    asdfghha, Apr 28, 2010
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  7. pals

    pals Notebook Geek

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    Hmmm.. maybe i like to input that alot of you are worried about overheating and stuff.. but as technology improves, other things will too.. such has heat management or heat sinks? so maybe at 80+ Deg for the i7 is normal.. wouldnt be tough for the machine to handle at all..

    If all things do fail, i still have my 3 yrs warranty =P
     
    pals, Apr 28, 2010
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  8. weinter

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    You can't do that I believe Acer uses SysPrep images which has different setup methods (all in method all the crap goes straight into the recovery partition) from ASUS.
    I know you can do that with ASUS recovery CDs but not Acer.
     
    weinter, Apr 28, 2010
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  9. MarineX

    MarineX Notebook Consultant

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    ----case Close----
     
    MarineX, Apr 28, 2010
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    Besides, just because the machine can handle it doesn't mean your hands can too!

    I imagine the machine would heat up and cause problems with extended intensive use, especially in situations of long gaming sessions. I'll have to see what the price differences will be if both configurations ever reach the states. As of right now the price/performance ratio seems to be favoring the i5.
     
    fstop, Apr 28, 2010
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  11. pals

    pals Notebook Geek

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    ooo.. thinkpad which model? 8 threads!! DROOLS.
     
    pals, Apr 28, 2010
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    Why don't you just put up picture of apples and oranges and make your comparisn. I won't even begin to go into the difference between the I7-620M and the Quad cores. But, your comparing a 15" behemoth to a 13" ultrathin and light. If Acer had the room Lenovo has in the W510, they could cool a 550 HP Cummins Deisel Truck Engine. :rolleyes:

    I would like to see Lenovo's solution to an I7-620M/HD5650 in a 13" ultra thin device (no integrated graphics only notebooks please :D ). The fact that the Acer runs at the temperature that it does and runs completely stable is a wonder in itself.

    Bronsky :cool:
     
    Bronsky, Apr 28, 2010
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  13. naadianaa

    naadianaa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I just noticed there is a thread for 3820TG. Yay! But anyway, I'm a new user of 3820TG for almost 5 days. Been a lurking NBR for a while. I just want to ask the other 3820TG owner if they notice any minor monitor flickering when it's running on batt. Is tht normal?
     
    naadianaa, Apr 28, 2010
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  14. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Probably a W series.
     
    Jayayess1190, Apr 28, 2010
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    ----case Close----
     
    MarineX, Apr 28, 2010
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  16. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Just havin fun :D No worry. Be happy. :D
     
    Bronsky, Apr 28, 2010
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    I have read that another 3820TG owner has the same problem. It occurs when you change from the Radeon card to Intel's (happens automaticly when you stop charging your pc).

    He had a solution for this: Just increase the brightness on the screen (I think it's "fn" + "some arrow"). Then it will dissapear. Even if you decrease the brightness after this, it wont come back =)
     
    havsbaden, Apr 28, 2010
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  18. Shamoke

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    Can't wait for this laptop.
     
    Shamoke, Apr 28, 2010
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    pals Notebook Geek

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    hmmm... nvr experienced it.. the only thing is when the graphics is changing, the screen goes blank for a while..
     
    pals, Apr 28, 2010
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    wow fiesty, you seem to pick quarrels with almost anyone that rebutts you :eek:

    and yeah unfair basis of comparison between a 13" and 15"
     
    newspank, Apr 28, 2010
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  21. MarineX

    MarineX Notebook Consultant

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    wow crones.
     
    MarineX, Apr 28, 2010
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    sorry man just another avid follower on this forum and decided to create an account so I can share my views. grow up.
     
    newspank, Apr 28, 2010
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  23. MarineX

    MarineX Notebook Consultant

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    whatever.... you know it best.
     
    MarineX, Apr 28, 2010
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  24. pals

    pals Notebook Geek

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    now now.. lets not turn this place into some mess.. anybody has any laptop sleeve to recommend? =)
     
    pals, Apr 28, 2010
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  25. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    This fits my 3810t nicely with a little room, so I'm sure the 3820t will fit well too.
     
    Jayayess1190, Apr 28, 2010
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  26. MarineX

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    nothing is fair on earth..

    if you want a fair review

    the best one could go is...

    ask different manufacturers to build the exact SAME Specification machine. That will be fair.

    Talk to me about "fair" again when you know exactly what is it. Clone.

    say whatever you want after this, i am out of here.
     
    MarineX, Apr 28, 2010
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  27. pals

    pals Notebook Geek

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    hmmm.. but that sleeve doesnt protect the laptop from drops right? i read over at the sony forum about this case called Zeroshock III. supposed to be good?
     
    pals, Apr 28, 2010
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  28. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    No it doesn't protect from drops, don't know anything about the Zeroshock. Here is a review/discussion from 2008 on the Zeroshock.
     
    Jayayess1190, Apr 29, 2010
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  29. YESHHHH

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    agree with bronksy

    and newspank, welcome to the forums :)
     
    YESHHHH, Apr 29, 2010
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  30. pals

    pals Notebook Geek

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    thanks for the heads up! so which brand laptop sleeves u suggest i get then?
     
    pals, Apr 29, 2010
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  31. tan

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    Compare to the new Sony Z would be more appropriate: see this post max CPU temp = 97C / max GPU = 95C :eek:
    How is the furmark test different than the intel burn test? Stress CPU+GPU ???
     
    tan, Apr 29, 2010
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  32. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    I really like my Case Logic, but it doesn't really matter. Just go to Amazon or some store like Best Buy and browse.
     
    Jayayess1190, Apr 29, 2010
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    Thnx for the tip.
     
    naadianaa, Apr 29, 2010
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  34. YESHHHH

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    Anyone interested in a nice bag for their future 3820, check this out from Best Buy.

    www.bestbuy.com
    SKU: 8740197

    It's a bit pricey but i've checked it out extensively in store and it's AWESOME.
     
    YESHHHH, Apr 29, 2010
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  35. rana_kirti

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    Hi pals,

    Congratulations on your laptop buddy....

    Could you kindly tell us which wireless card do you have inside you laptop....?!?

    Thanks...
     
    rana_kirti, Apr 29, 2010
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  36. pals

    pals Notebook Geek

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    Hi,

    Thanks! erm, i have the 802.11 a/b/g/n card..
     
    pals, Apr 29, 2010
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  38. YESHHHH

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    BTW pals, congrats on your purchase and thanks for all the feedback.

    If you can, can you post some close-up shots of the keyboard, LED lights, speakers, etc?

    And what are your thoughts on the speakers? Bad, Good, or Really Good?
     
    YESHHHH, Apr 29, 2010
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  39. arclord

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    It is the Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 a/b/g/n but that seems to apply only to those from the school laptop scheme.
     
    arclord, Apr 29, 2010
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  40. pals

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    Thanks!

    I'll get to the pics later.. i don have a decent camera i can work with now..

    As for the speakers, its not as soft as ppl say it to be.. they are labeled Dolby. Give it a 5 point system, i would say 4/5. sounds even better with a decent headphone one.. =)
     
    pals, Apr 29, 2010
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  41. OptimismPrime

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    Hello everyone,
    here is something to consider:

    both actual owners of the 3820TG i7 to date bought their notebooks in singapore and IIRC used/tested them there.

    pals stated that the ambient temperature was 31°C (which is about 88°F)

    to be able to accuratly compare that to the german reviews:
    the average temperature in germany this time of year is about 20°C (68°C) with today no city in germany exceeding 23.6°C (75°F)

    so about 10°C lower ambient temperature is what i would expect causing the about 10°C lower core temps, or is that unreasonable to deduce?

    ----------------------
    @Bronsky (and everyone else interested):
    concerning "having a clean install disk without all the preinstalled crap"

    here are links for 100% unaltered Windows 7 DVDs (english language versions) from digital river.
    They are originaly meant for people aquiring licenses online without physical media to be able to USE their licenses, so since the intended use is to clean install with the keys on the bottom of your laptops that you legaly own:

    Windows 7 Home Premium (x86) – DVD
    ht tp://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65732/X15-65732.iso

    Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) – DVD
    ht tp://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65733/X15-65733.iso

    Windows 7 Professional (x86) – DVD
    ht tp://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65804/X15-65804.iso

    Windows 7 Professional (x64) – DVD
    ht tp://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65805/X15-65805.iso

    remember, these are the english language DVDs.
    If there is any need for them, i would also have access to: German, French, Spanish
     
    OptimismPrime, Apr 29, 2010
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  42. pals

    pals Notebook Geek

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    Haha! thanks for putting it so clearly! =)) Singapore is a hot place you know...
     
    pals, Apr 29, 2010
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  43. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    @OptimismPrime

    Thanks - that is a big help. I think you have a point about ambient temps. I'm not sure they have a 1-1 relation effect but I'm sure the base temp causes the core to run hotter.
     
    Bronsky, Apr 29, 2010
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  44. naadianaa

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    Is there a Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) version?
     
    naadianaa, Apr 29, 2010
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    YESHHHH, Apr 29, 2010
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    any word on a US release date?
     
    LE25, Apr 29, 2010
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  47. OptimismPrime

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    I am sure there is, but since i didn't have to deal with (*cough*legal*caugh*) Win7 Ultimate to date, i can't give you digital river links, sorry :rolleyes:

    -----
    edit: seems like YESHHHH has the solution so yeah, damn work related forum lurking downtimes <.<
     
    OptimismPrime, Apr 29, 2010
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  48. naadianaa

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    Very helpful link. Thnx guys.
     
    naadianaa, Apr 29, 2010
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    :D That's what I"m going to. Rather than clean install Home Premium, I think I will install Pro. I have a 7Pro license that I'm going to have ready for the 3820TG when it arrives. Clean Install 15 minutes after delivery. :D I've done the ISO method before so that's the way I'll probably go. What utility did you use to remove the ei.cfg? The one in the clean instal thread? Is there any better one? I've had issues in that past with that one and only found out that it had not properly stripped the file after the ISO was loaded and I was trying to activate Windows 7. It was a pain.

    Bronsky :cool:
     
    Bronsky, Apr 29, 2010
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    There's an Atheros AR5B93 adapter in the swiss model (and presumably in the german model too)

    Owning one of this babys for about 2 hours, and loving it. I'll post some Benchmarks and stuff as soon as I'm home again. But that's not before Sunday evening. Sorry...
     
    Gogonal, Apr 29, 2010
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