Acer Aspire 5516 5517 CPU UPGRADE REPLACE SWAP

A good tutorial on how to use rmclock is here:

http://winhlp.com/rmclock.htm

Each cpu/system is going to setup somewhat differently so go slow in lowering the voltages and make sure you do NOT have it set to load rmclock automatically at startup as if you put in a value that won't work correctly, you may not be able to boot the os. so ...take your time, make sure all the values work, THEN set it to load automatically.

In addition to all I've posted before, I have noticed another unusual but beneficial effect of my setup. It appears that if only one core is being required, the other is apparently placed in the lowest possible energy state, then throttled up as required. The results in normal net browsing, writing this comment etc. with temp of 23.8C on core 0, with core 1 (shut down) registering like 16C. Room ambient temp about 70F. Note, these temps are with the TL-60 o'clocked with setfsb to 2300. BTW, without the external *sucker* type fan attached, the temps go up about 5C.

MY voltage settings are .7750v at a 4.0 FID, scaled up to 1.0250v at 10 FID.
I *might* be able to go a bit lower but have been working on other projects.

Seer.

 

That tutorial (along with a couple others I have found) are either too vague in description, use older versions of rmclock, or completely different cpus. I'm not willing to take chances following one of those tutorials, knowing that one wrong tick can cause my whole laptop to be worthless. I was looking to you because you're using the exact same processor and would be much more help than any of these guides. Idling temp being in the high 40's is well above what I would consider acceptable and leads me to just go back to the single core cpu. Thanks anyway.

 

I just wanted to Register and say Thank you to whoever posted this. I just changed my processor out in my 5517 to a 1.9 x2 amd and now I went from a 3.1 CPU rating to a 4.7 in Win 7.

Woot and Thank you.

 

i installed both RMclock and SetFSB , i set RM clock for maxima performance on AC mains and power saver on betterie. i did not touch the voltage settings. on set FSB i overclocked to 1.8 GHZ and my windows 7 WEI on CPU went from 2.9 to 3.6 . overall WEI score improved from 2.9 to 3.2 . the lappie is running stable at 1.8 i will not ask for any more i am pleased with this.

 

Sorry the tutorial doesn't work for some people. This is complicated stuff and worth the effort to study up and understand what it is you're doing and what those mischievous 'rooskies' have cooked up for those of us who like to tinker. Hat's off to the coders. Consider the effort to self educate yourself by reading up to be in keeping with the thinking of Ben Franklin..to wit:
"Empty your pockets into your mind that no man may take your wealth from you." The biblical corollary being "give a man a fish..etc."


One piece of advice, you can lower your temps substantially for 90 percent of the day's operations by setting your lappie for 'performance on demand' under power and 'power saving' under battery. I have extended my battery life enormously using these settings, while the benchmark differences between power on demand and max performance are for the most part, negligible.
seer

 

Unfortunately, time is not something I have alot of, and while I would love to learn exactly what each of these things do, it's probably not something I would ever use again. Besides, just like when I learned how to use Photoshop and 3D Studio Max, a book with words just doesn't help me. Videos showing how it's done give me the confidence of knowing that I'm learning it the way it's being taught, and not my interpretation of how it's being taught. But even then, I would look for a tutorial using the same version of Photoshop that I am using because a simple GUI change from CS3 to CS4 could cause an area of confusion. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

I'll continue trying to figure this out as even though this is my wife's laptop (which makes the thought of breaking it even scarier), I use it as well and love the performance upgrade. Knowing that the TL60 only uses 4x, 8x, and 10x multipliers, are those the only ones I need to set up? Can you give me the voltages you have been using on your TL60 so I have a goal?

 

I must say I am learning a lot from these postings although its a rather expensive experiment for me, I have 2 of the Acer 5517's I bought my kids for Christmas, one of them I just overclocked according to seers earlier post and one I put the processor in, but the one with the new processor actually got up to 90c, my daughter had like 20 tabs open and was playing cruddy child games, I to like ScAwN can't seem to grasp the RMclock very well but I will say its down to 60c at the peak with performance on demand. I find this stuff very interesting and like to know how things tick but need to learn more.

 

updated and edited this problem has been resolved please disregard this .


I understand how frustrating it can be to find info on these mods and tweaks. right now i got the SetFSB running nicely and gave it the 24 hour test oclocked at 1.8ghz. the only part that is not great is the oclock settings dont lock in during sleep or a reboot. i spend hours yesterday looking for the auto tool software and could not find working versions. or i would get the wrong version of SetFSB that did not have my clock generator. anther poster posted SOMEPLACE that things could be done in the task manager but did not eplain WHAT to do. another problem is somthing will work perfect in one model computer but may not work on another making it very hard to find a tute that will work for all. if anyone reads this im trying to find the correct autotool for SetFSB the version ends in 98 .

 

will the AMD Turion 64 MK-36 2.0 GHz Socket S1 processor work in my aspire 5517??

 

Can anyone give me a chart or list of CPU's that work in the 5517? The TF-20 in this one isn't going to do it for me!

I do have a TL-60 S1 in my CPU collection but since this isn't a simple "remove one cover and change the CPU" deal I rather just put the fastest one it can take in there!

 

hi seeratlas are you the one that posted at bestbuy about the acer aspire 5532. If so can you guide me on a few things about upgrading the cpu for this system. What cpu would you recommend purchasing and which one are compatible with the 5532. Also, what would I need to upgrade the cpu as far as components(ex. thermal, etc...). You seem to be very knowledgable in this department. I guess after I purchase these items what steps I would need to take to upgrade the cpu as I have never upgraded a processor before. This would be very helpful as I purchase this laptop because I read your post at the bestbuy website.

 

nope , sorry don't have the 5532.

seer

 

now, according to the spec's it has the tf-20 which CAN be upgraded as its a S1 socket. I do Have a sister lappie, the emachines e627. I pulled the tf-20 and replaced it with a 40 dollar TL-60 , a dual core which runs stock at 2.0ghz. I can overclock that using the latest setfsb to 2300. combined with the cleaned up thermo paste, shimmed hd3200, and a good dual fan cooler blowing up from beneath, I can play two instances of wow at the same time for dual boxxing and run temps of between 43 and 54 C or so depending on ambient air temp. Since I paid the 198. for my box from Walmart as part of the black friday deal, gotta say, i'm pretty darned happy. I use it for hours pretty much every day for everything from drafting docs, working with video and sound, and playing wow. helluva deal. I suspect you could use pretty much any of the TL chips.

seer

 

Now, for your 5532, any TL dual core should do, the slower ones *should* run slightly cooler. Anything from a TL50 on up to a TL60 for sure, and I've heard a TL64 has been put in one successfully. There is a post on this board by someone, might even be at the beginning of this thread, which shows the photos of the process of taking the thing apart. I will tell you it is TEDIOUS. You have to completely disassemble the laptop to get at the cpu. If you have not done this before, you are going to want to find someone who has.
There are a helluva lot of screws. If you want to do it yourself, you need to look in the mirror and be honest. Do you have basic mechanical skills? Do you have decent dexterity? and do you have PATIENCE!!

If not, your local computer store probably has a guy who would be interested in doing it for you or perhaps a guru type friend.

In the end it really does make a heckuva difference. Kick the mem on up to 4 gig's while you're at it.

Check youtube also for vids of the procedure.

seer

 

For those that don't want to tear the notebook apart to get at the CPU you can get 1.8 overclock safely (setFSB) and stable without even using an external cooler (CPU ran around 44C). this was without even undervolting it.
i later added a swiss army knife iceburg cooler and CPU plunged down to 30C . i have not pushed this past 1.8 but im sure with the cooler and some undervolting more could be safely squeezed out of it .

 

Norbert is right (as usual). The cooling of this unit responds extremely well to a fanned notebook cooler. Temps can be astoundingly low when just messing around (i.e. non encoding/gameing etc.).

seer

 

Alright need help please....

Swaped my tf 20 with a tl 60 no problems i am currently currently ghetto set up with a space fan leaned against the bottom of my laptop which handles normal processes at 18-24C. Then when i start playin a game like half life 2 or even counter strike 1.6 the temp rises quickly to 65-70C. I have my CPU Clock Utility running on performance on demand with my 4.0 FID running at .7750v and my 10.0 FID running at 1.0v. Any reason why there would be such a drastic change in temp????

 

Change the thermal paste while you are at it.
Remove Thermal pads and substitute them with copper shims if there are any gaps.

 

yup go to radio shack and get some arctic silver thermal paste... as for the shims unless your overclocking the video card might be a little technical but a very good idea, I was thinking Aluminum foil and jb weld

 

what is an acceptable temperature to be at as far as gaming goes?

 

I did a little research on this and from my understanding is that the M780 is based off of the Puma Platform. From what I read, this platform was made for the Lion/Griffin Processors. That Means all the RM, ZM, and Q series. Asa far as wattage and voltage you can check amd's site or cpu-world and see what the voltage specs and wattage specs are. Some of the ZM and the TL series are the same. Just make sure you use a good thermal paste and you should be good as far as heat issues go. What I also read was that the 780 was made with the S1G2 socket set. What is interesting it that the S1G2 socket can take 1st generation processors hence the 5516, 5517, and the e627 using a S1 socket. The TF-20 is a new 65nm processor that I believe came out in 09 and is categorized as a neo type processor. If you are looking at the TL series I recommend the 2nd generation TL series since they are 65nm chips as well the would be recognized by either DC or DM. e.g.

Earlier TL series processors were ending in CT(TMDTL58HAX5CT). There were the 90nm chips that came out in 2006. The newer chips would end in DC or DM and would be 65nm. I am waiting on a ZM chip myself and I think it will work. I have looked up several acer systems that use this 780 chipset and they use a range of processors that work with this chipset. I for one dont think that Acer would limit the functionality for certain laptops all using the same chipset. Thats a lot of work and man hours just to do that.

 

That is why I thought QL,RM & ZM processor would work since they use a relatively new chipset.

 

if the stock processor try to keep this under 60C in any case. Get an external cooler .

 

*technically* both the cpu and gpu *can* run at somewhere around 90C. I believe they both are set to shut down if you get near 100, however, that is way too hot for a laptop. Remember, in these laptops both are on the same heatsink, so the effect is multiplicative as they heat up. Further, there are lots of other things in the chassis that don't like heat, capacitors for one, so its a good idea to try and keep things lower. I agree that if you can keep it in the 60's or lower, you'll get your money's worth out of your lappie. 70's at full tilt are *probably* ok as long as you don't expect your laptop to last forever.

One other thing, perhaps even more damaging to laptops is a constant heating and cooling of the laptop. What happens is that because of the enviro /green weenies (no offense if you are one), mboard manufacturers have tried moving to a solder with less lead content. Less lead means less elasticity. As you turn your laptop on and off, the solder expands and then retracts when cooled. Over time this cycling does much the same as taking a metal closet coat hanger and bending it back and forth. It work hardens and eventually you start getting intermittent errors as the solder makes and breaks connections depending on temps. You do NOT want to try and resolder a mboard trust me. I've done it. Once, and will not do it again LOL.

bottom line, if your laptop stays in one place most of the time, you might consider letting it sleep as opposed to completely shutting down. Win 7 has some very good settings for powering down the wifi, hd, screen etc. but keeping the mboard idling. This constant temp on the board is much much better than cycling to completely off over the long run.

Seer

 

thats exactly what i do. I just put it to sleep. Sometimes i just let it stay on and i turn off the touch pad and FN + F6 turns the monitor off. In either case i let the cooler stay on even if in sleep mode power remains available to the USB ports .

 

Ok so put arctic silver between processor and heat sink now reading high 30s C for regular activity and high 50s C for gaming. Although about every 30-40 minutes my computer restarts?!?! any ideas?

 

bump bump bump

 

Does it restart on battery?
What wattage AC does it use?
Any Malware possibility on which Windows OS?

 

Thanks for those who posted the video and pictures for the CPU swapped they helped immensely.
I picked up this laptop @ boxing day sale for $299 and picked up a AMD 64 X2 - TL-52 for $7 off ebay about 3 weeks ago. Just got around to installing it today.
The install went smoothly and everything is up and running. My CPU temp ranges from 38 (idle) to 45 (blu ray mkv's) Celsius but it seems very stable. (with not additional cooling, just artic silver)

CPU score went from a 3 to a 4.2 in windows exp index. The big thing was performance / multi tasking. (can actually run win 7 in VM workstation so that it's usable)

So thanks to a "ecoholic" for the pic's and for the others for their input.

 

Yes it does restart on battery
does 65watts sound right... thats what it says on the power cord.
Im running avast, it is possible but i highly doubt any malware
windows 7 home premium

 

Do you have the error message in Event Viewer?

 

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 3/18/2010 12:45:16 AM
Event ID: 41
Task Category: (63)
Level: Critical
Keywords: (2)
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Paul-PC
Description:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

 

Updated the BIOS?

 

it is up to date

 

I don't know exactly the cause but I shall give some possibilities
1)You might have spilled AS5 on some components causing it to short/some components might have been out of place not replaced properly.
You can try to put the original CPU back to isolate the cause.
2)The CPU might not be full functional
You might want to run intel burn in test on the CPU.
3)Finally you can try to reinstall Windows to see if the problem reproduce itself.

 

Quick question guys,
I have a 5534 that features the same CPU as you guys the TF-20 with a 780G motherboard.

I'm pretty sure I can put a TL-52 in it as it sounds like the same configuration as you guys, just wondering if someone could verify that for me before I spend the big bucks on a processor off ebay.

Thanks

 

I bought the cpu, installed it and it works great!

I have a related question, I actually have an Acer 5532 but it is pretty much the same as your guys but a little bit better I think.

I hate the keyboard though its so cheap (you get what you pay for).
Anyone know where we can buy better quality keyboards for these?

 

Just done mine today. Am typing on it today. I read your post and still upgraded my bios to the newest 1.09 whilst still on the original cpu. So my guess, well it shouldn't be the bios problem. I didn't clear(or remove the bios battery prior or after the upgrade either) the bios at all. Works a treat, love it.

 

Hey guys I go this notebook the other day and have purchased the TL-50, I'm new to upgrading laptops and was following Eco's guide but got as far removing the lcd before I got stuck. For whatever reason is just won't come out, it's hard to see what he's doing in the video, and as far as I know I've done everything the picture guide says.

EDIT: I got everything in and got it put back together, but for whatever reason it won't turn on now The LED indicates that it's charging. Eek! I really don't know what I could have done wrong, any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

I have had this laptop since December and I have to say its a good value for the money. I like the 780gm chipset and the 3200HD graphics but it really needs a dual core for sites like Hulu,etc. Which is why I started doing some investigating on upgrade options.

The laptop ships with a Athlon Neo tf-20 which reads as a Socket S1 in CPU-Z.I have a strong feeling that the 780gm chipset will support SocketS1G2 as the 780gm in its desktop form can support a high end Phenom II, so most likely this laptop is using a S1 processor in S1G2 capable board. I know it won't support S1G3 as that is a totally different animal and architecture alltogether.

ALSO THIS LAPTOP DOESNT USE THE 690 CHIPSET AS IT WOULDNT BE ABLE TO HAVE RADEON 3200 GRAPHICS.

Which brings us to the processors it definately can support

S1

Turion 64 X2 TL-50
Turion 64 X2 TL-52
Turion 64 X2 TL-56
Turion 64 X2 TL-64
Athlon 64 X2 TK-42
Athlon 64 X2 TK-53
Athlon 64 X2 TK-55
Athlon 64 X2 TK-57
Turion 64 X2 TL-56
Turion 64 X2 TL-58
Turion 64 X2 TL-60
Turion 64 X2 TL-62
Turion 64 X2 TL-64
Turion 64 X2 TL-66
Turion 64 X2 TL-68


S1G2 Probably will work

Turion X2 Ultra ZM-80
Turion X2 Ultra ZM-82
Turion X2 Ultra ZM-84
Turion X2 Ultra ZM-85
Turion X2 Ultra ZM-86
Turion X2 Ultra ZM-87
Turion X2 Ultra ZM-88
Turion X2 RM-70
Turion X2 RM-72
Turion X2 RM-74
Turion X2 RM-75
Turion X2 RM-76
Turion X2 RM-77
Athlon X2 QL-60
Athlon X2 QL-62
Athlon X2 QL-64
Athlon X2 QL-65
Athlon X2 QL-66
Athlon X2 QL-67

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If we can get confirmation that S1G2 works then this laptop can easily rival a $700 notebook. I would do it myself except I have a 3 year warranty on this and I am probably going to sell mine as I just got another laptop that is smaller from my friend.

 

So...Uhmm..Hey guys! I'm new here.

And I have a laptop, it's E627...I've read the other post. I think I'll go for TL-58. But I have 2 big problems...

1.)I don't know where to buy it cuz' I'm living here in the Philippines.

2.)I'm 14 and has no experienced on disassembling laptop.

EDIT: Should I also buy another fan for my laptop? or just an external?

 

Well.
I have the Acer 5517. I just recently did a swap from the original tf-20 to a tl-60. I am running into an issue now. My temp, EVEN with an evercool notebook magic external fan, and at least a nickel sized splotch of Arctic silver 5 thermal compiund, my temps while idle never go below 47c. When typing this i get about 50c. when playing command and conquer 3 on medium settings i get up to 75c.

I also am having issues with the frequency. How do i reset any changes i made to the frequency with FSB?

Currently, it only reads at 797.96MHz (199.49 x 4.0) -- 0.8000v --

It sometimes jumps to about 1795.99MHz (199.49 x 4.0) -- 1.1250v here --

maybe i am reading this wrong? But when i try and go to "Can you run it?.com" i fail every game because it only reads the 797.96MHz.

If someone could please give me some ideas.

 

I've got the emachines E627, and like many of you, I've ordered the TL-60 Turion X2 'Tyler' version of the cpu.

To answer the question about whether you can put an S1G2 cpu into the S1G1 socket, the answer seems to be no:

AMD Processors Forums - Socket s1 chip in socket s1g2, is it possible?

I don't know if this fellow is correct, but if he is, then you can't do it. I would like to hear somebody else authoratatively weigh in on this, however.

Will post once my TL-60 arrives and has been installed.

Thanks once again to echoholic, Seer and others for the valuable advice! You saved me about $500 with your willingness to post instructions on how to upgrade these Acer/emachines notebooks. I really appreciate your extra work doing this.

 

Your best bet for buying an upgrade TL-series Turion is eBay. I just snagged a TL-60 for $25US. I think this is likely the best deal for an upgrade CPU for these machines right now.

 

Hi

i made already 2 upgrades to my Acer 5532
i first installed a TL-58 (1.9ghz) and for the record i used the stock thermal compund as it was stills usable (the temps where raging form 50 idle to 70 on load) and the Windows Experience got me from 3.2 to 4.7 and the 3d mark 06 got me 1080

then i installed the TL-66 (2.3ghz) and used artic silver alumina and i get around 40 idle to 60 load and the windows experience got me to 5.1 and the 3d mark 06 to 1137

by the way a friend of mine saw the upgrade i made to my laptop and he tried to use my TL-58 on his Compaq CQ60 if i remember correctly and he didn't check that his computer uses a S1G2 processor (a Sempron M120 if i remember correctly) and the laptop refused to turn on, but i forgot to swap the sempron processor to my acer to verify if a s1g2 worked on my machine so that was my bad

and for the record i read that you could overclock the processor using setfsb so i am going to give it a try and see if it works and if the temp stays at reasonable values, to see if it's worth it, but one thing wonders me, does anyone knows how (if it's possible) to overclock the HD3200 on this machine?

ah by the way i am posting a screenshot of my pc properties so you can see it's not a lie

 

Alright, the TL-60 finally arrived and I've upgraded my eMachines E627. Everything went back together without too much trouble and it's up and running. The Windows 7 experience index now shows 4.8 for the CPU. The machine does feel snappier and video definitely runs better on it now. CPU temps are 48-51 degrees celsius. I used some older Arctic Silver. I'm pretty darned satisfied.

 

Ok I ordered a TL-60 and spend freakin over 3 hours last night taking apart my 5516 and putting it back together. And now it won't boot with my new processor. I called my local pc repair guy just to see if he'd do it for me right and he laughed at me and said I had to change the motherboard too, that's not right is it?

Ok so when it boots the fan turns on for like a second, the cd drive spins if there's a cd, and the computer just makes a quiet idling noise. The screen doesn't change whatsoever, and yes I've checked it's connector. Any idea what went wrong?

 

I, myself had upgrade 5517 to TL-58(1.9ghz) with no problem. I also just got done with 5532, basically the same as 5517, to TL-60(2.0ghz) the 31watts not the 35watts. Some newer 5532 are not Socket S1.

 

Travis dont worry, exchange your processor to the old tf-20, beacuse it's probable that you got a bad cpu that doesn't work, besides it's pretty sure that your laptop still works, try to see if you misplaced anything if not then return the processor and keep using the old one and try to get one that's working

 

tompzone what did you do to prepare your computer for the processor upgrade

did you reinstall windows or upgrade the bios or something? Because i put in a new processor (TL-60 and TL-56) it hangs at the start up screen

any help would be greatly appreciated.