Acer Aspire 5740G Owners Lounge

Hi fgkrew, yes you could be right: 1600 mhz ram if cheaper could be a wise choice , above all in a future application on newer cpus (i.e. in a new notebook ) @ the caddy it seems to be cheap enough to give it a try if you really need it ,would you use it for an ssd hd ? I personally would not renounce to have a dvd player above all for booting software as ghost backups or any other booting disk . Ies ,I know , I could use an usb stick as well but that's not exactly the same thing!

 

Hi retarp

No, it's working fine. The only thing you need is 5V 900mA, who is not
supported by pci-e, that's why there is a fdd psu.conn. on your card.

Yesterday I bought an ssd, see pic.'s for result's.
Not as fast as expected, maybe some overhead or the VIA VL700 in my
hdd case, ( USB3.0 to SATA I / II ), but I used only hdd's external.
If you still have your card, try it.

 

I already have an intel ssd, i will be putting my old hard drive in there.

I would love to hear more opinions about the usb3 mod the people are talking about.

It would be the ultimate mod i would make to this laptop to keep it up to date as possible since it is still a great machine.

 

What kind of ssd is compatible with our notebook? what sata version?

 

SATA II only. SATA II works at SATA II speeds.
Also HM55 needs a tweak to achieve proper 4K speeds (Intel's fault)

 

What do you mean by "also HM55 needs a tweak to achieve proper 4K speeds"? could you explain this concept to me please?!

 

See this thread. It links to another one as there are two tweaks. In my case one worked fine but the other made the CPU run at max speed all the time (I don't remember which was which though).

 

@Downloads

My intel 520 120gb is also poor on saving and 4k.
Did you use one of the tweaks yourself ?
I now you have a Samsung 830 ssd.

 

It's still not ideal but better than it used to be.
I can post a Crystal Disk Mark (or whatever it's called) if you want.

 

Hi again,
So, I ended up buying a caddy to get a second unit, but I was thinking of putting the hdd in the caddy, as the maximum speed is 1.5 Gb/s and then put a ssd in sata port 2 has a 3Gb/s
12 7mm Universal CD DVD ROM Bay SATA to SATA 2nd HDD HD Hard Driver Caddy | eBay

Yet bought the ssd because I wanted to first test, so I did the swap hdd caddy for and changed the bios to boot from the DVD, so that the bios is not detecting hdd
I did a quick search but saw many answers:
-some say it is necessary to format the disk
-others say that some-caddy not do well with windows 7 or 8 (but is not even detected)
-and others say to update the bios
but I can not get the solution
(I already have the latest version of bios installed)

does not do boot from this disk in caddy?
I have a ssd cache, but for it to work I have to get the hdd, boot again

Thanks

 

Both ports are SATA II but if I remember correctly you won't be able to boot from caddy with the most recent BIOS.
I think it worked fine with a previous one though.

 

So, can I install the bios to previous version as it was a standard installation or do I need anything else? The previous versions are 1.22 and 1.16, what should I install?
Thanks.

EDIT:
Still, the maximum speed of the caddy is 1.5Gb/s, right?

 

By the previous BIOS I meant 1.22 and as for SATA speed- one of the users that installed it in 5740G claimed that it is 3Gb/s.

 

I tried now with the bios 1.22 but with the caddy on the computer locks when I start the boot or when I try to enter the bios.
I will try now with the 1.16

 

With the 1.16 version also does not detect ..
any ideas?
Thanks

 

What's your setup anyway? With both ports being SATA II (supposedly) can't you switch the drives?
Sorry if it's a dumb question but I didn't fully understand your original post.

 

I have only one hdd and what I'm doing is change the disk from original sata for the caddy and try to boot from caddy
when the hdd is in caddy the bios does not detect the hdd or completely blocks with bios version 1.22

I have a ssd cache off the computer because the ssd cache is not a boot drive

 

Sorry, but doesn't make it not more sense when you make from the ssd a bootdrive ?
If your not shure of the speed from the caddy, you can test it with the ssd.

@Downloads
yes, please show some benchmarks.
The speed of the ssd is more SATA II in windows safe-mode.

 

problem solved..

after several attempts of trying to boot from the sata caddy (no disk in the SATA standard), could not get any time

was beginning to think that the caddy was damage
then decided to test a disk from another laptop and gave



then later decided to test the ssd cache from my desktop, the caddy.
thought it would take 1.5Gb/s (as he had written in own caddy), but gave 3Gb/s


ssd sandisk readycache

so I can leave a ssd in the caddy since the speed is the same
boot from the hard disk but does cache for ssd
so now I have to buy another ssd but for my laptop

is doubt whether it is possible or not to boot from the sata caddy, I could not here..

Thanks

 

Please upgrage bios to 1.28 and you can boot from ssd Windows normally. In extra caddy your Acer also will detect normal hdd with no problems.

I have option in my acer (Samsung 830 256 SSD and WD 640 GB) and all works fine.


Cheers

 

Driver update

New Atheros Wi-Fi driver v 10.0.0.251 (for Win 7 and Win 8)

Intel Rapid Storage Technology v 12.​5.​0.​1066

Broadcom Ethernet driver v 15.6.0.2

 

Have someone ever put a 8gb single memory module in this laptop? Ore have someone the chance to try it out ? (no quadcore)
I want to upgrade with a 8gb 1600 module, so that I can use it when I ever buying a new laptop.

 

Hi Andy53, nope! there is no way to put a8gb single module on a dual core cpu even the i7 620m : your laptop will crash on booting just after the windows logo: it's due to the impossibility for these cpus to address more than 4gb in each slot , I had this issue until I swapped for a quad core i7 ( i7 840QM in my case) Right now my laptop is running without any problem 16gb ! Good luck anyway!

 

Thanks for the info. I thought maybe it will give me 4gb instead of 8, but when it crashes !
At this moment I can make a deal of buying 2x4gb for €20 , so no further experiments for me.

Greetings

 

i tried the 1600mhz, never had the chance to try a 8gb module though

 

I have a Acer Aspire 5740-5513 i3 330M with 8gb RAM

Does this have the same MB as the 5740G, I would like to upgrade to a i5 or i7 and go up to 16gb of Ram

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Mark

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●Acer Aspire 5740-5513
●Intel Core i3 i3-330M / 2.13 GHz
●Dual-Core
●L3 cache - 3.0 MB
●8GB DDR3 SDRAM 1066.0 MHz
●320.0 GB HDD
●1.1 TB Backup
●Intel HD Graphics (I don't game)
●12 -cell Lithium ion

 

Hi, markm 7 , I think it should have the same mainboard , I would be more concerned about the chance to have the same heatsink istead, and anyway the only way to reach 16gb is to put an i7 quad core ( 720qm - 740qm -820qm -840qm) no way with dual cores i5 or i7 (memory address limits) ,hope it helps.

 

Thanks boazzz

 

Hi markm7

No quadcore for you, then you will have no video !
Max. for you is 8gb and i7 dualcore (i7-640M)

 

Thank you for the info deaerragh.

 

Thanks Andy,

Any way to upgrade video like the "ATI Radeon 5650 graphics processor"?

 

Nope- that can't be done. These are not MXM boards.

 

I had problems when installed the Intel Rapid Storage Technology. If you install this drivers without uninstall the old program and drivers, the process IAStorDataMgrSvc.exe will use 25% of your processor because it has a problem with the new drivers. I don't know if it's better to uninstall everything and install the new drivers (they come without any program), or if it is better to leave the last drivers with this Intel Storage program.
Do you have also this problem? or it is only me? I am going to install a SSD next week and maybe it's a good idea to use this new drivers, but it is necessary the program or only with the drivers will work ok?

 

I installed the driver and disabled processes and services from Intel- there's no use for them- I just wanted the new driver.

 

What does that rapid storage driver do anyway?

 

The only important thing in this package is SATA AHCI driver, those apps are all useless as far as I'm concerned.

 

Ok, I have just removed the program and the old driver, and I have installed the new one. Everything is in order.

One question, I have the 624G64Mn model (i7 620M) with 4Gb of DDR3 1033MHz. I am not sure if my laptop can run with DDR3@1333MHz. Do you know it or can you tell me how to know it? And a more important question: Do you think that I will feel difference between 4Gb DDR3 and 8Gb DDR3? Which brand and/or model of so-dimm modules should I buy? I am thinking to buy one of this (In case that you tell me that it is a good idea to change my RAM modules...):
- Corsair SO-DIMM 8GB KIT PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 CL9 1,5V Vengeance CMSX8GX3M2A1600C9 0843591016681 | eBay
- Arbeitsspeicher G.Skill SO-DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit 4711148597678 | eBay

 

So if i don't have that driver installed my HDD is not working in AHCI mode even tho AHCI mode is selected in bios?

 

DDR3 1333MHz will work but at 1066MHz. The difference between 4GB and 8GB or lack thereof depends on how much RAM do you use at this point. If you're nowhere near using all of 4GB than 8GB will not be an improvement.

It will work in AHCI mode. You have some older Intel AHCI driver- if you haven't upgraded the one that came with the laptop. The one in this package is the most recent one- possibly better.

 

I actually don't have any intel rapid storage drivers at all.I have reinstalled Windows many times and don't use the Acer provided drivers.I guess WIndows 7 has a build in driver for it.I will still install this new driver tho and disable all the useless crap just to be on the safe side

 

Is it not possible to run the memories at 1333MHz? And can I install 16Gb?
If I see Sisoft Sandra, I can see:
- max memory: 16Gb
- memory bus speed: 2x532MHz (1GHz)
- max memory bus speed: 2x667MHz (1333MHz)

Is it possible to install 16Gb at 1333MHz?

 

I don't remember if 16GB worked or not. As for 1333MHz- it's impossible without a quadcore (Core i7 720QM/740QM)

 

Thank you so much! I will save money because I think that I don't need more RAM memory if I can't improve the speed of them.

 

Retarp claims that his windows crashed when he put more than 8Gb in his dualcore laptop (I believe him !)
But what does the bios says ? What happened when you make a clean install ?
Intel says here http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/322813.pdf on the end of page 14
that a dualcore can addressing 16Gb of ram max.
I already have my 8Gb but I am curious if some one can try this out.

@rafita82
If you get an ssd and you don't want much savings to it, you can remove your
swap file and then 4Gb is not very much.

 

I don't understand your comment. Please can you explain it to me a little bit more? Thanks!

 

They say that an ssd lifetime is limited by the writings to it. So if you don't want unnecessary writings, one way
is to remove your swap file. I did it with 3Gb of ram, and I get very much warnings of low memory.
There is no problem if you got a second hdd where you put the swap file on, just
like the temp and hibernate file's.

 

16gb will never work on a dual core even I7, the max ram supported would be 8gb (2x4) , not even a single 8gb module will work, but with a quad core (I7 720QM/740QM/840QM) you could reach up to 16gb (2x8) and upgrading the bios to 1.28 no problems!

 

Is it worth changing a i5 430m for i7 720qm? I have left a pretty good chance and not to do.

Sorry for my english

 

If you are using a lot of multicore software or you need more memory, then yes.
Otherwise, a fist rule is that a cpu must have at least 30% more speed to make it noticeable, so I think no.
But if you get it for a good price, a i7quad looks better than a i5dual.
Look at http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html for some comparison.

I also think that most of the time you fan will be on.

To make speed noticeable, I think its better to go for an SSD instead of cpu, bottleneck
in laptop in general is i.m.o. HDD, specialy compared to desktop one.

 

Thanks, I ended up buying one along with a ssd, hope I never have problems with the temperatures