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    Acer Aspire 5740G Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by downloads, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. DeepBlack

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    then sticky with the original drivers from acer!!! :p perfect sound, mic 100%
    best choicr
     
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    looking for the cheapest cooling pad in india .

    what type it should be and what will be its cost ?
     
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    Here is a temporary solution for the PC Beep. This is for those who want to stay with stock or newer Realtek drivers.

    Automatically Mute "System Sounds" when you Logoff, Sleep, Shutdown, etc.

    Here is something useful for students in college or for people who bring their laptops to public places.

    I found a program called Auto Mute. This program will automatically mute "System Sounds" when you Logoff, Sleep, Shutdown, etc. You can also use hotkeys with this program to mute/unmute "System Sounds" in Windows 7. Pretty useful when you go to class and forgot to lower your volume. You can also plug in the power adapter without that annoying PC Beep after Windows is finished loading & then you can unmute with hotkeys to enable sound again.

    Auto Mute - software to make computer silent on system start, on waking up form suspend mode, or on user logon

    Screenshot:
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    Mute/Unmute "System Sounds" with the "P" button (Launch Manager)

    Nevertheless, I found an easier way to mute/unmute "System Sounds" with just the "P" button (Launch Manager) on the 5740G laptop. I created a shortcut that can mute/unmute "System Sounds" and then I linked that shortcut to the "P" button on the laptop. This is much easier & faster than pressing the "Fn + F8" keys or using the superbar volume to mute/unmute "System Sounds".

    [​IMG]

    (You can also pin this shortcut to the superbar as a mute/unmute button.)

    [​IMG]

    Click here to learn how to do it.

    You can use them both together. Auto Mute for the convenience of class & the click of the "P" button to enable sound.
     
  4. evermore88

    evermore88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i need to know asap

    where i can pick up one of these baby

    the i5 with HD 1gig dedicated vid card for 749.99

    i've searched and searched but everybody is OUT OF STOCK !!! Q.Q


    US, west coast
     
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    lacienega Notebook Consultant

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    i just bought a new wireless router(linksys e3000) and i cant find my 5ghz band, anyone knows if my wireless card(atheros ar5b93) is the problem here? i cant find any specs on this atheros to confirm=/
     
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    looking for the cheapest cooling pad in india .

    what type it should be and what will be its cost ?
     
  8. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    AR5B93 is capable of 2.4GHz only. BTW you chose a good router.

    Please just don't ask this question the third time you already did it and you got no answer for a reason- none of us lives in India and we have no idea what's available over there and for how much. All I can say is that the cooling pad should blow air into the notebook's intake, not somewhere to the middle of chassis so you need a cooler that has either more than one fan (including one in the upper left section of the cooling pad) so something like this makes no sense.
     
  9. rmittal

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    I still feel the drivers which comes with the OS may be more thoroughly tested than just WHQL drivers. Another important consideration is that they don't come with any other so called helper apps which adds them up to startup folder or automatically starting services. A case in point is LSI modem driver which adds a new service as well as a startup application. Thats why I would like to know if some had any real experience with the default drivers.

    AFAIK HT cores are not real cores but virtual cores so they cannot give you the same performance as a real core. They usually gives a 10 - 15 % performance boost when used properly. My experience shows that Windows 7 uses them quite intelligently. (HT cores are not used until physical cores are used heavily) On the other hand if not used properly they can cause performance penalty (HT cores are not used intelligently in XP) For eg. If an application needs 2 cores to perform an action, XP may give the work to 1 physical core and 1 to the HT core attached to the same physical core while keeping the 2nd physical core idle. So you get upto 40 % less performance than what you would have got when using both the threads on 2 physical cores.

    In my machine as per Coreinfo ( Coreinfo) there are 4 cores, Core 0 and 1 are physical whereas 2 and 3 are HT so if we enable only 2 core as per my suggestion core 2 and 3 should be disabled which are infact HT cores.

    I would also like to point out that HT should only be disabled when using XP, Windows 7 works quite intelligently with them.
     
  10. rmittal

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    Your options depends on where you live. If you are in Mumbai or Delhi you will have more options than in other cities. Online shopping is still not quite prevalent so the best thing would be to go out to the nearest computer market (Lots of computer/laptop/parts shop in a particular area) and enquire whats available there.
     
  11. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Drivers are tested by hardware manufacturer i.e. Realtek and by WHQL and you believe that somehow Acer knows more about hardware that Realtek designed and software that Microsoft wrote than both of them. If you don't want to update drivers- don't but the only reason is you don't wanna do it nothing else backs it up.
    As for any start up apps- Acer probably doesn't remove them. All cases I saw were when the actual hardware maker added something whereas drivers Acer provided didn't have it simply because they were old. I don't like startup entries any more than you but I'd rather have the most recent drivers and simply use msconfig to prevent apps from starting than keep the old driver.


    I would argue some points in this but there's no point. I thought you meant disabling two cores in Win 7 or both Win 7 and XP. There's an easy way to test it- which I did before posting this start WinRAR hardware test and use properties of WinRAR in process manager to change numbers of cores running while the test is running. Disabling any two cores gives you the same performance drop. Presumably it would be worth testing in Win XP too.
     
  12. rmittal

    rmittal Notebook Enthusiast

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    I did a quick test my self on Windows 7.

    WinRAR Score
    Core 0, 1, 2, 3 = 1261 (2 Real & 2 HT Core Used)
    Core 0, 1 = 851 (2 Real Core Used)
    Core 0, 2 = 722 (1 Real & 1 HT Core on same physical core Used)

    wPrime 2.02 Score. (It is a CPU only Benchmark so more reliable)
    Core 0, 1, 2, 3 = 32M -29.878 secs (2 Real & 2 HT Core Used)
    Core 0, 1 = 32M -35.944 secs (2 Real Core Used)
    Core 0, 2 = 32M -55.694 (1 Real & 1 HT Core on same physical Used)

    from above we get:
    Using 4 cores is not equal to 2 * 2 real core.
    Using 2 real core is not equal to 1 real + 1 HT core on same physical core.
     
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    can anyone explain why the new timelineX series have a much greater battery life than this model? doesn't it have the same stuff?
     
  14. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Because it has bigger battery and switchable graphics enabled.

    @rmittal

    WinRAR Score
    Core 0, 1, 2, 3 = 1509 (2 Real & 2 HT Core Used)
    Core 0, 1 = 880 (2 Real Core Used)
    Core 0, 2 = 947 (1 Real & 1 HT Core on same physical core Used)

    Ain't that funny? :D
     
  15. shpatar

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    Been reading this thread for a couple of days now, and I just received the computer a couple of hours ago. Installed Windows 7 Ultimate (it came with linpus), and updated everything (double checked, mind you).

    I have the same problem as Yoda had much earlier in this thread. There is a device in device manager that is Unknown and has no drivers, - "PCI Simple Communications Controller." I tried everything but I can't get it to be updated / recognized. Everest says it is some Intel part, probably a processor component. Doesn't bother me for now but just wondering if anyone had the same problem, and if so how did you solve it...

    EDIT: Everest says it is on IRQ 11, and its name is "Intel Ibex Peak PCH - Host Embedded Controller Interface 1 (HECI1)"
     
  16. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Try this first.
     
  17. shpatar

    shpatar Newbie

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    deja vu :p

    But yeah, I tried that. I just tried to remove everything from INTEL, then reinstalling this first and then the other things (SATA interface, turboboost drivers). Still nothing.

    Anyway hopefully it won't mess with my everyday working. I was thinking though, could it by any chance be the integrated graphics of the processor?? I didn't install anything regarding that (and I know that its supposed to be turned off... but, I dunno.)

    (5740G-434G64Mn)
     
  18. subrotobasu

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    @rmittal @downloads

    WinRAR Score
    Core 0, 1, 2, 3 = 1569 (2 Real & 2 HT Core Used)
    Core 0, 1 = 930 (2 Real Core Used)
    Core 0, 2 = 1015 (1 Real & 1 HT Core on same physical core Used)

    @rmittal
    are you using XP 32-bit?
     
  19. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    BTW I read a review of 64bit WinRAR and apparently "(...) all WinRAR algorithms were made for the 32 bit math and new x64 version was made for the better compatibility with the x64 operation systems" ( source) so unless something's changed since WinRAR 3.9 it 7zip would be a better choice.

    @ rmittal Looking back at our discussion I see that it was pretty much pointless because we never actually disagreed on anything. I referred to switching off HT as a bad idea in terms of Win 7 while you made your point about Win XP- although I don't know if you meant Win XP standalone or Win XP run as a VM on Win 7 (it may be different in that case)
    So a few posts and tests later we've managed to prove that we have different CPUs and that HT is not the same thing as a real core- two very important points that... no one ever questioned :D

    There's nothing better than wasting time on Friday :)
    Now it's time to play Sniper Ghost Warrior that just came out- looks very interesting to me
     
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  22. rmittal

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    It needs the driver for Intel Management Engine. (Labeled as an application rather that driver in my driver DVD)
    If you got the driver DVD it can be found in folder:
    "F:\XP\X86\MEDRIVER" for XP
    "F:\VISTA\X86\MEDRIVER" for VISTA
    "F:\WIN7\X86\MEDRIVER" for Windows 7.

    At the ACER site it is listed as iAMT and found at
    http://global-download.acer.com/GDF...1983&Step1=Notebook&Step2=Aspire&Step3=Aspire 5740&OS=722&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=AAP_2
     
  23. rmittal

    rmittal Notebook Enthusiast

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    @subrotobasu @downloads

    I used WinRAR 32bit 3.91 on Windows 7 Ultimate x86.

    I believe that WinRAR could not be trusted with its benchmark completely, I would strongly suggest using wPrime for accurate results. For 2 core benchmark you should select only 2 threads in program and set affinity for the same. I would certainly like you to post your results. (With and without Turbo Boost will be more helpful)

    My scores are lower because I own a i330 processor which is lower spec'd than i430.

    I believe your core 0, 2 score is higher because Turbo Boost is kicking in. Turbo Boost increases the clock speed if the power and heat envelope of the CPU allows. Since only one physical core is being used it is more likely to easily enter Turbo Boost. Since I have i330 there is no Turbo Boost for me.

    You are right. I just wanted users to know that HT is great if it can be used properly by the OS. Windows 7 does it right, XP does it right sometime but wrong sometimes as well. I was a great fan of XP, it is fast and compatible with almost all softwares available, but bad at managing HT. (I mean physical installation)

    I switched to Windows 7 after having issues with XP regarding core handling.
    So you can say I would have been still using XP if my system came without HT cores.
     
  24. downloads

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    BTW Core i5 430M is very unique because TurboBoost was meant to work only when one physical core is under load however in Core i5 430M max multipliers for 1 core and for 2 cores is the same.
    At first I thought it's some kind of BIOS bug or something (look at first post of the thread) but apparently this CPU works at 2.53GHz regardless of whether one or two physical cores are under load.
    In the end i5 430 is not 2.27GHz with TurboBoost- it is a 2.52GHz with no TurboBoost at all.
    I don't think I can disable it BTW- all I can do is to uninstall monitoring application but CPU goes to 2.53GHz on its own when under load.
     
  25. rmittal

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    If your CPU works @ 2.52 GHz in all cases, whether using 1 or 2 real cores under full load then WinRAR result are really strange. Try some other benchmark and see if it behaves similarly.

    Can it be (Turbo Boost on both Cores) the result of on chip GPU being disabled as the TDP of complete package is 35 watts. CPU TDP is 25 watts ,GPU TDP is 12.5 watts. So the package will always have 10 watts of extra headroom for Turbo Boost available.
     
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    THANK YOU dude! Really appreciate it.

    Was about to give up and reformat n see what happens, just thought I'd check back here one more time.

    Thanks again!
     
  27. downloads

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    Yes it does in all cases. You are probably right that it wouldn't if it wasn't either for GPU being disabled or for great cooling system Aspire 5740G has.
    But still even if Intel HD video had been enabled it you would have played games using ATI GPU so the situation wouldn't change that much.

    It's not Aspire 5740G specific. That's what OC-Freak wrote about his Core i5 430M (in Asus X71Ja) compared to Core i5 540M in Aspire 5820TG ( here)

     
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    @rmittal
    These are wprime scores:
    32M - 31.653 sec (1463.2 mhz arrandale) (Thread Count 2)
    32M - 22.761 sec (1463.2 mhz arrandale) (Thread Count 4)
    everything is fine but why is it showing it as 1463.2 mhz?
     
  29. evermore88

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    no store has one =(


    q.q !!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  30. rmittal

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    Ignore the MHz as wPrime was released before these CPUs so the hardware panel may not be detecting it properly. This information has no effect on actual benchmark.

    If you want to measure the performance of particular cores use a affinity setting app like SetAffinity http://edgemeal.110mb.com/Files/Set_Affinity_II_1.040.zip
     
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    can someone elaborate this laptop's touch pad ??

    i hear it only has one button as in one button mouse??? from reviewers
     
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    ....hello friends...my lappy acer aspire 5740g is coming in a few days..(already paid for it...going to be delivered by the 29th..
    i have a few questions to ask...

    1.first of all.....i am getting a logotech r-5 speaker set along with it...is this a good speaker

    2.the model comes with windows 7 64 bit HP edition..OS....i have a doubt about the partitioning acer comes with..ie the model ships with only a single partion ie the windows drive (C: drive) and a windows dump drive of 14 GB (d: drive)....now if i have to make other partitions of required amount ..like a E: and F: too...how do i go about it...and to inform everybody ..this is for my softwares and media files respectively..so please guide me on this process....a

    3...what all drivers are needed to be installed after the lappy arrives...like all extra utilities that should be installed and what updated drivers should i install...?


    thanks in advance
     
  33. downloads

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    It has one piece of plastic that you can push on at its left side and right side (just like normal two button mouse) but not in the middle.
    Touchpad buttons are a bit stiff- that gets better and more comfortable after you've used it for some time but still it's not as soft as it should be.
     
  34. shpatar

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    I didn't expect much form the Acer and was relying on just using an external mouse, but I'm very much positively surprised. The buttons themselves are a little harder to press than in optimal circumstances, but I just tap to click most of the time anyway, and it works very well. The touch pad itself is flawless. I can tell you right off the bat that its much better than my girlfriends high end dell studio xps. It's not too sensitive, and the scroll function on the side works very intuitively and really, like a charm. Pinch to zoom seems to be working on browsers pretty well, didn't really try anything else.
     
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    Hello,

    My father purchased an Aspire 5740G this week and i'm trying to help him update some drivers and overclocking the Mobility Radeon HD5650 according to the OP.

    However, when I download and run AMD GPU clock Tools it says that the graphics card run at core 99.9 Mhz and memory at 149.97 Mhz?? :confused:
    [​IMG]

    It seems like this Aspire 5740G run on a core i3 aswell instead of an i5. The rest of the specs seem the same although.

    Anyone know what might be up with the odd memory and core frequencies?

    Cheers
    /joel
     
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    Its ati PowerPlay.. If you play something, then it will go back to normal.. -.-
     
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    Yea the graphics card is just throttled down because you aren't doing anything graphics intensive, completely normal.
     
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    Ahh I see, thanks for sorting that out for me!

    So if I wanna overclock the core to 650 Mhz can I just bump up the frequency to 200 instead of 100 "idle" mode?
     
  39. Osiyo

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    No you don't have to change the idle frequencies at all, just use the AMD GPU Clock tool posted in the OP to overclock the card to your desired levels before you start playing a game, it's really easy. Once you exit the game, you can open the tool again and just click "restore to default settings" or whatever, and it will go back to the idle levels. Just make sure you remember to do it, or your GPU will remained overclocked.
     
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    So I was wondering if someone had success connecting spdif out (laptop's) to digital in (coaxial, in a receiver) ? I've been trying for couple of days now and no results lol. Maybe I'm doing something wrong :S Or this laptop does optical only through the spdif ?
     
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    I have tried using a standard coaxial cable but its too big. Monoprice sells stuff that is supposed to work, but since it is only 2 channel, I quit messing with it.
     
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    Are you using the correct jack? Only the black (headphones) jack is line-out...
     
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    I got two problems.

    I can't find my realtek control panel. I thought I used to type in realtek in the search bar and it would come up.

    Second, my headphones are not working. They are good, so it has something to do with my spdif jack. :confused: I test it and it shows that it makes sound, but I get nothing.

    I have the newest realtek drivers.

    edit: I found the control panel, but still cant get headphones to work


    edit: got it working. I was stupid.
     
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    I have a stupid question..

    On the realtek audio manager there is a icon for digital audio output (S/PDIF)...
    I don't have this output on my laptop...at least not that I know of...
     

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    Audio out jack (black one) works both for digital and analog audio depending what setting is activated.
     
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    Thanks downloads, i knew that...what i mean is that icon on the picture that i've attached...I don't know what kind of jack that's supposed to be..
     
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    please help me with this....it would be really grateful of you
     
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    Hey guys

    I'm planning to swap out my WD 500 gig drive and use it as an external hard drive. In place, I'm planning to buy either a black scorpio 320 gig or a Seagate Momentus 7200.4 320 gig. Which would you recommend and are both compatible with my laptop?

    Secondly, How would one go about switching HDDs and transferring windows files over? Do I make a backup or something?
     
  49. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Oh i get it- TOSLINK can look like that.

    1. Don't know
    2. Partition Manager (free) should do the job
    3. Full list of updated drivers is available in the second post of the thread- all of these have been tested on 5740G and do work fine.

    I'd go for Seagate- these seem to be faster but both should fit.
    If I were you I would buy 500GB Seagate and just use something like Acronis True Image to make an exact copy of the drive you are using (including recovery partition, working Windows and so on) and then just swap drives.
    You can probably make an image of recovery partitions and Windows partition and after that just transfer the remainder of the files from data partition. One way or the other it can be done.
     
  50. mustangless

    mustangless Notebook Geek

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    Is it possible to add a second HDD to this notebook? I would like to run fraps and record video, but recording to the same disk drive as the game slows the game down big time.
     
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