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    Acer Aspire 5740G Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by downloads, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. akuGama

    akuGama Notebook Enthusiast

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    so umm what fix can you suggest .. .besides finding the perfect cooling pad? because the more i look at the problem the more and more it doesnt seem like a hardware issue... i wasnt that concerned about laptop temps prior to one day opening up hwmonitor and seeing what my actual temps were. I always figured that the laptop would shut off long before the point where it would take damage from heat...so should i continue using it as is for now until i can get my hands on a decent cooling pad?...does this option come with factors that may result in permanent damage to my lappy? should i continue to stress and worry about it? (theres no drop in performance while gaming at these temps btw...well none that are notcieble on my part, keyboard just gets a little uncomfortable)
     
  2. rmittal

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    It's not there in my system with ver 2.43. Same with version 2.41.

    SpeakerProperties.jpg


    By the way my system is the non G version. However I believe that 5740 and 5740G share the same audio hardware.
     
  3. aylafan

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    Sorry, I forgot to mention that. It was 3AM and I was exhausted, but I assumed it was obvious that new driver versions usually have bug fixes, but at the same time could contain new bugs.

    I was just trying to tell him that version 2.43 was a stable driver that had the PC Beep volume control, the microphone working like normal, and the Dolby Home Theater function.
     
  4. aylafan

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    Did you follow these directions? Click this link below.
    Follow these directions.
     
  5. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Your temps are not dangerous and you are right to assume throttling would occur before any hardware would have a chance to fry- but since it doesn't you definitely are on the safe side.
    There's no reason not to use your laptop extensively- you might wanna consider a cooling pad if you manage to find a good one but don't worry about that too much.
    BTW either you've researched it extensively before buying or you are lucky but if it wasn't for a very good cooling system 5740 has you would be in trouble.
    If/when you buy a cooling pad I'd appreciate if you could make a test of it and post some data and photos.
     
  6. DeepBlack

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    i did, installed this driver yesterday with a clean install of windows! and i´ve the same problem, no pc beep under level tab =/

    edit, 2.43 realteak drivers
     
  7. akuGama

    akuGama Notebook Enthusiast

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    ^ Downloads
    hmm okay man thankz man you are like officially the god of the acer 5740g
    and if i do manage to find a decent cooling pad ill be sure to share with this lovely hivemind of acer -goodness.
     
  8. aylafan

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    Hmmm...strange. Maybe, one of the previous drivers left some older files or changed the registry that allowed the PC Beep function to stick with newer Realtek versions. Let me mess around with this a little more and I'll get back to you on that.
     
  9. aylafan

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    Okay. I think I figured out what happened.

    I installed Acer 5943G Realtek drivers (or some other Acer model Realtek drivers) that had that loud, cracking, popping sound when you started your laptop because someone mentioned it in this forum; however, it contained the PC Beep volume control. When I uninstalled it in Device Manager and deleted the drivers for it, the values were still in the registry. So, when I installed version 2.43, it still kept the PC Beep volume control function in the registry that is compatible with newer drivers.

    However, here is the big catch, versions 2.44-2.49 will have that loud, cracking popping sound that could damage speakers and I have no idea how to get rid of the cracking sound if you already installed Acer 5943G Realtek drivers. However, if you revert back to version 2.43 it will not have that loud, cracking pop sound, but the microphone works like normal, PC Beep volume control is there, and the Dolby Home Theater is still there.

    Sorry, for all the confusion. I thought uninstalling from Device Manager and deleting the drivers from there would completely remove the drivers, but apparently that did not remove the values from the registry.

    I guess you guys will have to install Realtek 2.29 drivers if you want to disable the PC Beep. Sorry guys. I thought I found a final solution, but it's user error on my part. I will still keep version 2.43 because everything works perfectly for me and I am able to disable the PC Beep.
     
  10. subrotobasu

    subrotobasu Notebook Consultant

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    Deepblack is right aylafan. Even I am not getting that option in the level tab.
    I have tried several time to reinstall the 2.43 drivers but still no use. I would like to stick with the newest drivers. i.e. 2.49.
     
  11. Rajeshjsl

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    so should i continue playing crysis warhead @80 degrees gpu and 78 degrees cpu ? or get a cooling pad ?
     
  12. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    You can safely play without the cooling pad.
     
  13. aylafan

    aylafan TimelineX Elite

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    Here is the Realtek 2.49 drivers with the PC Beep control volume installed on my Acer Aspire 5740G laptop.

    [​IMG]

    The only problem is I don't know how to repeat the process to do this. haha
     
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  14. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    :laugh: OK that made my day :laugh:
     
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  15. lacienega

    lacienega Notebook Consultant

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    Is there any noticeable improvement over the original driver except the beep control? Does it sound better? By the way...what number does the original driver have? I only find the number 6.0.1. 5969?
     
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  16. rmittal

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    Can you make a reg file for the settings so that others can get the PC beep option on ver 2.43.
     
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    ATI is working on a similar magnitude to optimus nvidia for switchable graphics, I hope this is our chance.
     
  18. subrotobasu

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    Guys these are my two tests. Are the sensor movement and cpu temps tests fine? My room temp. is 23 C and the max. clock speed I got was 2527.02 Mhz.
    Plz give your views as I am totally noob in these stress temp and overclocking kind of things. :confused:
     

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  19. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    No chance- if you want to switch off ATI card you need something else to be switched on in its place. Intel HD Video in the Core i3/i5 is switched off in BIOS so whatever ATI does you just don't have two working GPUs to switch between them.

    As usual all temperatures are fine.
     
  20. davigar

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    But when this does ATI, Acer pulls like a bios, or if we bring together some experts to modify ourselves the bios to activate the integrated graphics.
     
  21. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    First of all we don't need any solutions from ATI- Intel HM55 a chipset in 5740G- can switch between Core i3/i5 integrated video and dedicated card (ATI in our case)
    It had been disabled by Acer because when 5740G was launched Intel had no working drivers to enable switching. As a rule of thumb you don't add untested features after the notebook had been launched so I can pretty much guarantee Acer is not gonna issue a new BIOS to enable switchable graphics.

    Second thing is that BIOS mod for 5740G has been already requested in a modding thread here on Acer sub-forum and it turns out that the BIOS is too new to be opened in Phoenix BIOS editor that these guys have- so until they get hold of more recent version we cannot hope for a mod either.

    Side note- nVidia optimus is not a great solution- it is convenient but switching between cards is based on drivers and the card that is unused still has to be powered. Intel's solution is less convenient because you have to manually switch between the cards but Intel's chipset can switch off a GPU entirely so it draws no power. In my opinion we would be better off with what we already have (but well...enabled ;) ) than with any optimus-like solutions.
     
  22. icsterm

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    Does somebody know what does "install intel control center" do if checked when installing the latest AHCI driver from Intel? Does it contain any usefull apps that monitor the hdd drive or so?
     
  23. synaesthetic

    synaesthetic Notebook Evangelist

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    Can I join this thread? :D

    Gateway NV5925u = AS5740G-6979

    Actually, you do need something more, but not from ATI, from Acer. The IGP is disabled on the 5740G and its Gateway little sisters. Even if you could turn it on, it would do you no good as it's not actually connected to anything, you know, like the LCD screen. :D

    There are no hardware multiplexers in these laptops, so there's no way they can do switchable graphics without a partial redesign of the mainboard.
     
  24. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    No you don't- first of all Aspire 5740G had been designed to have switchable graphics and was advertised as such when it was first launched- that's the reason they chose Intel HM55 not PM55 chipset in the first place.
    Secondly the integrated GPU is in the CPU and is connected to the mobo like all CPUs are- no other connection was supposed to exist. Thirdly there's no other connection to the LCD screen- there's only one cable regardless of what card sends its signal via the cable.
    The switching device is the chipset which has full access to PCI- Express bus and all hardware- it's the chipset that chooses what device should have access to the bus and can power down the other one.
    The same thing happened to both Aspires 4740G, 5740G and apparently Gateway NV5925u- launched a bit too early for Intel to be actually ready with their own product.
    You whole theory is wrong I'm afraid because there's really nothing missing and there's no additional hardware required- it's all bad timing.
     
  25. davigar

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    downloads thanks, we should expect to be able to edit the bios to have switchable graphics, I like the time I bought a 12-cell battery on ebay to extend autonomy.

    Thanks & Regards.
     
  26. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Well if you are able to find Phoenix BIOS Editor that is more recent than v2.2.1.3 we may be able to open the BIOS and see if there's an option to enable switchable graphics- otherwise there's no chance as I'm sure Acer is not going to do this.
    I presume you are willing to take a risk and test if it works if such modified BIOS becomes available? :p
     
  27. lacienega

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    It is replacing(updating) the intel matrix storage monitor and has a lot more options..
     
  28. icsterm

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    Does it installs any un-usefull software that starts up with my windows? As this model is AHCI only and no SATA RAID modes enabled,i don't need any monitor software eating my ram.

    This monitor software is it usefull?
     
  29. Athlon1

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    maybe we should make a petition and send the result to acer to enable the switchable graphics option. I think its not much work for them - Acer Timeline series already has this feature and the same hardware configuration...
     
  30. aylafan

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    Install Realtek 2.43 drivers with the PC Beep volume control

    REMOVED. NOT WORKING.

    Download Links:
    Acer 5943G Realtek Drivers
    Realtek 2.43 Drivers

    ***REVERT BACK TO PREVIOUS DRIVERS***
    If you want to revert back to Realtek 2.49 or previous drivers after trying this step-by-step process. Follow the steps below.

    1. Uninstall Realtek drivers from the Control Panel & restart the computer.
    2. Install Acer 5740G Realtek drivers & restart the computer.
    3. Uninstall Realtek drivers from the Control Panel & restart the computer.
    4. Install Realtek 2.49 or previous drivers & restart the computer.
    (This is the only solution that I found that restores Realtek drivers back to its original state without the loud, cracking pop sound at Windows 7 startup for driver versions 2.44-2.49.)

    Download Links:
    Acer 5740G Realtek Drivers
    Realtek 2.49 Drivers
     
  31. icsterm

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    Question: is the chipset driver on the acer drivers page really an driver update for windows or only inf update? Is it usefull on Windows 7 to install it?

    Edit: nevermind, i found out it's only an inf driver update and not needed for a current OS like windows 7. Correct me if i'm wrong.
     
  32. lacienega

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    It let's you enable advanced SATA features for optimal power management and increased storage performance. It creates a start up entry (IAStorIcon), but I have unchecked it from 'msconfig'...you still can access it from the start/ programs list...
     
  33. lacienega

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    It is already installed...unless you did a clean install from windows DVD.
    You can check here: Program files(x86)/intel/Infinst/readme
     
  34. aylafan

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    I need someone brave enough to test this step-by-step process. This is to install Realtek 2.43 drivers with the PC Beep volume control.

    Click here
     
  35. DeepBlack

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    i did it, and worked :p now i´ve bepp control under level tabs, but...i cant control the volume of the beep, i can change but it always stay the same, i can mute, or unmute basically! thankss :)

    btw, i´ve a problem with my right speaker here for a few days! it really sucks with windows system sounds, any tests on control panel or startup! the right speaker does a weird sound, i dont know what u guys mean by cranky but maybe thats it ! im with 2.43 drivers! anyone had this problem? only the right speaker, with realtek tests on control panel there´s no problem, only windows sounds and a few videos
    and sorry for my english!
     
  36. aylafan

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    Thank you for testing it out. By the way, the volume of the PC Beep is either mute or unmute. Changing the value from 100 to 1 will make no difference in loudness. Either use the value 0 or mute it completely. However, I will need someone else to test it out before I post it as a final solution for the PC Beep.
     
  37. DeepBlack

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    yep, and it didnt worked on 2.49 or 2.43, i tested this issue on both drivers =)

    what about my other problem, any ideas?
     
  38. DeepBlack

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    well, i gave up on 2.43!
    no way to use, my mic is completely bugged =( rolled back to 5740 original drivers! screw this beepppppppp
    :(
     
  39. aylafan

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    Really? I guess I have to find another solution then. Thanks for bringing this up. You can roll back the driver or use a system restore point. Sorry, for all the trouble.
     
  40. DeepBlack

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    yep, i made a clean install yesterday, with realtek 2.43! since yesterday im trying to find a solution for my mic, just doesnt work, sometimes seems fine, but most times doesnt work, on msn, skype! really weird...volume too low! and every mic volume is on max(boost/volume)
    im gonna help you finding a solution tomorrow! ill try other versions
     
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    I have a question about this laptop.

    I currently have one with 6979 version.

    Is there anyway I can turn off Hyper Threading?

    I been looking through BIOS setting, can't find any..

    also, is there a way I can OC the CPU :D ?
     
  42. rmittal

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    I have a question?

    If I do a fresh Windows 7 install on the system. In device manager drivers for only Broadcomm LAN Driver, Intel MEI and native Video drivers are missing.

    If I only install the missing drivers, will my system be more stable as MS tested windows drivers gets installed for majority of devices.
     
  43. rmittal

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    I was also trying to figure it out as it was causing problems (low performance) in XP.

    AFAIK you can disable 2 cores from Advanced options of Boot Tab in MSConfig utility, (I didn't try it myself though).
     
  44. icsterm

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    You can always use latestt 2.49 Realtek driver available but it won't support beep levels.
     
  45. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    No- updated drivers are also WHQL which stands for Windows Hardware Quality Labs- this means these are tested too.

    Disabling 2 cores leaves you with half of the CPU speed though which in the end will probably affect performance more than having HT on and four cores running.
     
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    Is there a way to remove the annoying beep in Windows 7, when I plug in or out the charger?

    Sorry but I only saw a couple of pages, but 140 are a lot...
     
  47. subrotobasu

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    I have two questions. I have Cerative Inspire 5.1 Analog speakers (with three pins, i.e rear, front and center). Is there a way by which I can use it in my 5740G laptop.
    Second, can I use windows XP 32-bit in this laptop. I know the 32-bit can't use the whole 4gb ram but can it be made to use all that ram by using that PAE thingy? Does it work?
     
  48. icsterm

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    Only digital out with SPDIF, thats one jack only. Also you can use HDMI audio output.

    I believe you will need an external soundcard.
     
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    @aylafan: I don't mind the PC Beep.Which are the latest realtek drivers with all enhancements/options and normal working microphone?
     
  50. downloads

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    The most recent ones available at Realtek website- currently it's 2.49
     
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