Acer Aspire 5930(G) owner thread

Essentially, yes, I placed the head flush against each vent and just let it vacuum.
I've also done the same on the sub-woofer (keep in mind it can also take up the dust as it does have holes).
Just use the vacuum cleaner on each vent (and the woofer) for about 5 seconds (perhaps a bit more if you think it will be better).
I did the same thing on my laptop AND the Zalman cooler.
Btw ... I positioned my laptop further away on the cooler ... and I have to say that my temps are at 51 deg C (actually 41 deg because my temps are 10 deg lower than what HW monitor registers) for the cpu and about 41 to 43 deg C for the gpu (when watching a video).
It used to rise slower for about 10 deg until the other fans kicked in and dropped the temps back down. I suppose it's because the frontal area of the laptop is not sitting on anything and has a much better cooling point for the gpu.
For example ... just use the space button as a positioning point.
The lower border of the space button is on par with the lower ending of the cooler.
This particular position appears to provide the best cooling point for the gpu (as already mentioned) and even if I'm watching VLC, the temps remain on idle without budging.

EDIT:
I would personally recommend that we try utilizing VLC player for watching DVD's.
It's able to do so as far as I know ... and I think that watching videos/movies on a TV would be difficult because Nvidia removed the option of all videos scaling to the full screen automatically when the cards are out-putting the signal.

One more thing.
When can we expect benchmarks on ATI's mid-range gpu's and their exact specs (slot-wise) so we might consider upgrading our laptops in about 6 to 12 months time?

 

how many fps u got for 1280X800 for far cry 2?
i only use 1024X768,DX9,high details(which is the lowest option in far cry 2),real tree medium,fire medium,AA 4X and got about 30fps.if using DX10 24fps.

 

Game runs pretty smooth in 1280x800, all maximum exept shadows which are on medium, dx9. Something about 25 fps with over clocked gpu.

 

Mobility Radeon HD 4670 has been placed between GT 130M and 9700M GT here.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-3870.9597.0.html

waiting for a real bench but frankly i think that it'll be like the GT 130M no more no less. The 40 nm nvidia series should provide a noticeable gain...if compatible. i'm not really into ati's cards anyway.

I bet my 5930G that the 4670 won't go above 6000 points in 3D marks. I dare you to tell me it will ;-)

another subject, Dox has released a new optimised driver based on the last version of nvidia WHQL 181.20 drivers.
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22670
I'll try those.

 

Hello, I’ve got some problems with my Acer 5930G, I’ve explained them in my video, try it please.

Btw, you can enable HD for higher quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW6pS6AwD3M&fmt=22

 

well, dox 181.20 scored 6023 instead of 6000 with 179.28 ok...but in GTA IV benchmark they were quite catastrophicals, i had a 8 fps average framedrop (32--->24 in 1024*640). Never seen that before I know GTA IV isn't really a good example cause of its crappy optimisation but it's not acceptable. 179.28 are by far best drivers iv'e tried at all levels. Don't loose your time in others drivers guys.

 

vorob concerning your dvd player did you check in your bios settings the boot order ???
as for the sound problem i don't have this issue, did you try to update your audio drivers ???
As for the lags i'm not sure if there is a real problem. It means nothing perhaps a hitman specific issue, is that the only game you've tried ???

Seems like you've got same lap model than Deks maybe your issues will look familiar to him

 

Yep, i've tried several drivers for audio, and i said in video that dvd boot is disabled, first is Hard Drive

 

ok i didn't get it right.
Well, maybe a bios flashing could help in this kind of situation since your problems exist on all OS and whatever drivers are i would try if i were you. Don't have any other ideas but maybe the others will ;-) Or maybe you simply have a faulty one.

 

vorob

I don't have similar issues in terms of the DVD reader (at least to my knowledge) or the sound card.
Everything functions fine on my end (we have exactly the same laptops btw).

I would attribute your sound issues to the drivers for now.
Try going to Realtek's website and downloading latest drivers for the sound card (Vista ones if you are running Win 7) ... the High Definition Audio Codecs (in the downloads section).
Or you can use the drivers from Acer's website in order to preserve the sub-woofer function.

The lag in games you mentioned is sometimes common I'm afraid for any laptop regardless of it's power (this could be attributed to the HDD being busy loading something or the fact we still have graphic cards with 128 bit memory interface).
Try utilizing Nvidia official drivers though instead of Dox's drivers.

If you still think that you are experiencing large issues, then call up Acer or the store where you got it and ask for further assistance.
The laptop is still under warranty and if it's problematic, the warranty should cover it.

 

yeah well i have to say that flashing the bios is not a good idea if you want to use warranty cover. Am i wrong ?

 

Flashing the BIOS shouldn't void the warranty.
Given the fact it's download-able from Acer's website, I'd say it's ok.
Although if the BIOS itself becomes bricked as a result of BIOS updating, then the warranty to my knowledge doesn't cover that (if I'm not mistaken).

Lucky for us though, BIOS flashing is not so problematic as it used to be.
We can re-flash the BIOS with the older version if the new one doesn't take (although if we take into consideration at least one other member who upgraded his BIOS on 5930G successfully, I don't think there's too much to worry about).
BIOS flashing usually fails if you interrupt it for the duration of the update itself or try to flash an incorrect BIOS.
Which is why it's recommended to not do anything while the BIOS is in the process of being updated and just wait for the system to respond on it's own (not to mention make sure the BIOS in question is for your laptop).

If the process fails for whatever reason, the internet is filled with examples on how to restore your old bios though.
I tried searching for this info though and hit a wall most of the time.
I think a similar BIOS restoration procedure for a different type of laptop was mentioned in another thread here on NBR.

 

i was thinking about that : it's possible to change the optical drive firmware too...if it's available on the constructor website, but personally speaking i'd go for bios flashing cause it looks like a mobo mismanagement of the optical drive at startup.

*Subject change* i have a question : When i bought my lap, an infrared port was in the list of the technical specifications...Do you have one ????? Because i didn't success to locate mine...

 

Yea
It is the sort of glossy area, around the volume knob.
I'm not 100% sure, but I am quite sure that is it

What say you

 

yeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh you're the best rayyan lol i searched for it several times and did'nt find it. I'll try with my phone ;-)

Actually i didn't manage to use it...But it looks like an infrared port you're right. Maybe an Acer software support it ??? don't know i've uninstalled them all lol

also have you tried to use the Bio protection...What a gadget !

 

LOL
No worries

Mine didn't come with a finger print scanner, but no big loss
Why don't you connect your phone to pc using bluetooth

 

Cause mine did not come with bluetooth but with useless Bio protection

I'm not insane tough i've checked in acer website it says "1 port Consumer infrared (CIR)"

 

So you mean if I download new drivers I gonna lose sub-woofer function?

 

If you use latest drivers from Realtek site, most likely yes.
But hey, if they resolve your issues, then I think it's worth it, and the loss of a sub-woofer isn't that big anyway, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

As I already mentioned though, try using drivers from Acer's website.
They work just fine and preserve the sub-woofer (likely because it was Acer that hooked the sub-woofer with the card to begin with and incorporated proper software support for it).

 

Yep i tried this drivers, nothing helps, and yes, on new realtek driver i've got subwoofer silenced

 

I've an Acer 6930, it has the sub woofer too, but you've to set it manually to get the sound from it. this bacause new Realtek driver rest dolby digital sub to "0".
See pic for details:

 

Hey guys ... just wanted to note temps while gaming (Assasins Creed) using Nvidia's official drivers under XP SP3:

CPU: Core 0 (64 deg C); Core 1 (66 deg C)
GPU: 64 deg C

So I would have to conclude that while gaming, the temps increase by about 20 deg C from idle (at least when it comes to my laptop) ... but also, I use Zalman cooler which reduces the overall temps by 10 degrees, so I think for those who don't have the cooler, the temps would likely be larger by 10 deg.

Nvidia official drivers seem to be working just fine (installed them about 30 mins ago) and the graphics are a tad smoother in my opinion.

 

yeah an increase of twenty degres is what you should normally have without OC. 179.28 is a very good driver indeed. Nvidia will release one mobile official driver every three months which supports all mobile nvidia cards. this is the first one. I'm surprised they didn't have this idea before but good news tough.

Mobility Radeon HD 4670 seems to support directx 10.1 when ours didn't, just direct x10 for us. I regret directx 9 good old time...

 

okay I dont realy get it about the subwoofer. the computer have a small subwoofer installed that stops working if I change drivers or is just that I cant use subwoofer to my surround system that is connected to my Tv, if I have the computer connected?

 

Only the subwoofer that is embedded inside the laptop itself apparently doesn't work from the get go when installing new drivers.

 

Thanks for the answer Deks =)

I just updated my bios to 1.23. Is it recommended to reinstall windows vista after bios update?

And is there any change log for v1.23 I can find?

And finally what is the different between 5930 and 5930G?

 

Reinstalling Windows after BIOS update is not required/needed at all.

To my knowledge, Acer never released a change log for their BIOS-es ... so we don't know what exactly was done in new BIOS versions.

 

god d**n it you're fast to answer Deks =) sweet

I guess you missed my question abut the diffrent version G and not G =). I was edit my post when you answer. Do you know anything about that?

 

I don't think there is a difference

The actual name of the laptop is aspire 5930G, but maybe ppl are too lazy to write the G

Not 100% sure though

 

Actually, I think there might be a difference ...
The 'G' might mean that it comes with Centrino2 cpu (the Pxxxx) while the non G version comes with an older generation T5750 cpu.

Then again, the companies have a tendency of mixing up models and not knowing the difference.

 

but isn't any different drivers for 5930g or something, cant only find drivers for 5930 on acers homepage

 

Just because Acer has drivers for 5930 and not for 5930G doesn't present a problem because most of the relevant hardware that actually needs drivers is identical.
5930 laptops are essentially identical when it comes to the base components.
There are differences when it comes to versions of the same laptop ... that's where spec-wise differences happen (but they are mostly in the cpu/hdd/ram department).
Some higher spec models of this laptop come with bluetooth/infrared/fingerprint reader ... meaning that you will just have to download the drivers for those hardware parts (if your laptop has them incorporated).

Mostly Acer didn't use the 'G' letter in their downloads section of the webpage.
But as I already said, that doesn't matter.

 

I have a T5800 old generation processor and lap is 5930G. 5930 model without the "G" doesn't exist to my knowledge.
Centrino and Centrino 2 labelling is sometimes confusing too. For example :
You have Intel Shirley peak wifi, PM45 and a Penryn codename processor you are allowed to have "centrino 2" labelled on your lap.
You have Intel Shirley peak wifi, PM45 and an other codename processor then you don't deserve the "centrino 2" but just "centrino" label despite you have the right chipset.

Centrino 2 is just a warranty that your lap comes with the lastest generation of these three components.

 

DVD created using eRecovery will restore hidden "recovery" partition on HDD right ? or is it only OS ?

 

umm is there anyway to change the gpu of the 5930 to something like the 9800 series ? and would it overheat? and is the motherboard compatable with like c2d extreme? any overheating problems?

 

appless it's not possible because 9800M series go into a MXM 3 slot. If you want to upgrade you have to find a card more powerful than 9600M GT and MXM 2 compatible. there isn't such a gpu for the moment maybe in a few months. And yeah it might overheat. But since constructors are trying to diminish gpu power consumption and are going for 40 nm, i don't think next gpu's generation will heat more than ours.

as for cpus theorycally you can go up to Core 2 extreme X9100 but for the moment T9600 (2,8 ghz) or P9600 (2,66ghz) are the best choices in terms of price/gain ratio (215 euros on ebay). And yeah your temps would increase these are 105°C thermal specification processors. If you have a stock P8400 (105 °C) on your 5930 temps shouldn't change but if you have stock P7350 (90°C) or T5800 (85°C) they should. However the increase should be reasonnable but we have seen that stock P8400 5930G heats more than others it's a fact, even the gpu seems to heat more cause of the gpu-cpu cooling system linking. But it works ;-)

 

thanks man.

 

Is i possible to turn off the touchpad with some fancy keyboard moves?

And how do I tur off the build in mick? so I can use my mick on my headset

 

Check the user manual for your model. It will tell you how to use the hot keys on your laptop.

 

Okay I will do =)

what do you think about these

SO-DIMM 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHZ CORSAIR

that would be right for 5930?

 

You can disable the touchpad by going into mouse options (in Control Panel) and clicking on the touchpad tab (should be the last one).
Click on the option that will diable touchpad automatically if it detects you have an external USB mouse connected to the laptop.

 

Great thanks =)

What do you think about the memory Deks? (SO-DIMM 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHZ CORSAIR)

Thats correct right?

 

Yes the RAM you mentioned sounds like a good choice for 5930G.

Did you get 3GB in your laptop and want to upgrade, or is the reason for asking about the RAM something else?

 

I did get 3Gb so i was thinking to upgrade to 4GB =)

 

hope you have 64 bits OS

 

Yeah of course =)

And yes I have more question about 5930 =)

If you press the plastic under the CD it feels like, hmm dont know how to describe it but it's "soft" not robust. It will go down some millimetre, anyone have the same "problem"?

 

ok guys i've been looking for this lappy for ages and finally i found it
BUT it was the last piece which was in display so how do i check for any problems with
1> the LCD i wanna make sure nothing is wrong with it
2> the hard drive
3> i think stress testing would be enough for the cpu/memory check (prime 95)
4> what stress testing software should i use for the GPU

oh and also what software can i use to make sure i have the GDDR3 GPU and how can i find out if i have the 7200 or 5400 rpm drive



(i'd really appreciate it if you can answer my questions in 15~21 hours cause i can't hold it any longer)

oh and here are the specs
acer aspire 5930G
c2d p8400
4 Gb ram (don't know the freq. for sure but prolly 667 MHz)
nvidia geforce 9600
15.4" wxga crystal brite screen

 

The Acer 5930G comes with DDR2 RAM to my knowledge and not DDR3 (make no mistake though, the differences between ddr2 and ddr3 are non-existent in terms of performance ... the real difference is essentially in the fact that ddr3 produces less heat and requires less power).

The laptop also comes with 5400 rpm hdd.
It's a mid-range laptop after all ... a vast majority of these are sold with 5400rpm hdd's as it reduces the pricetag.

For gpu, you can install a latest game such as Dead Space and see how it runs (although I strongly recommend you install Nvidia official drivers from their website prior to the game itself because the drivers will bring out a good performance increase compared to stock drivers).

The LCD ... well, just look at the image and see if everything is displayed correctly for the most part.

 

hxxp://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1304/TechPowerUp_GPU-Z_v0.3.1.html

Download and run that program/exe. Does not even require a install. Great app.

 

thanks guys