Acer Aspire 5930(G) owner thread

Ok, I installed Call Of Duty: World At War and it is basiclly unplayable. Lags like hell, and not only the game itself, I can't even watch the intro movie without horrible skipping and sync problems between audio and video. I thought to myself might just be the game so I tried installing Need For Speed Undercover which also turned out to lag alot. I might add that I have both games running lowest possible settings.
Ok I know the 5930G is no extrem gamer laptop but shouldn't it be able to play these games lag free or atleast decently on the lowest settings?
Anyone else here that have tried these games or any other new game out there and could share their experience. And as I stated in this thread earlier I have the newest official nvidia driver, 179.28, installed.

Overall to be honest in many ways and using different applications, such as Mixmeister for one, I find my laptop to be much slower in comparison to my 4 year old P4 3ghz, 1 gb ram desktop. I don't know if it has anything to do with that I am running Vista at the moment. Anyone else here got XP to work properly on your 5930G? Any ideas for how I could speed up my laptop?

 

Are you sure you have set it to high performance mode

Click on the battery icon and make sure it is on high performance
I can play NFS undercover with almost all settings maxed out

Good luck

 

I agree with RaYYaN for the most part.
Have you also considered that pre-installed garbage apps from Acer are what's slowing down your system further?
I for one played Assasins Creed (only this one on 1024x768 with all other settings maxed), Dead Space and Bioshock maxed out without issues.

Check the battery settings for one thing, then remove all Acer garbage programs apart from the touchpad and camera drivers.

You could also re-install Windows if you want to.
That way you'd have a clean start and performance shouldn't be an issue.

 

Thanks for the answers guys. I solved my problem I think, just launched and played 10 minutes of Call Of Duty: World At War lag free, ok settings are still at low but still.
Prior to this I thought to myself, of course I have it set to high performance but just had to check, and of course I had. Luckly though I noticed that in the settings for the High Performance profile the CPU usage level was set to Low, with the options Low, High, Maximum, so I changed it to Maximum.

Concerning reinstalling Vista, I made a backup of the standard configuration as the computer promted for this just after purchase. What I am wondering though is there any way to just back up the simple Vista installation, free from all the Acer bullsh*t?

 

I don;t think so

What you are after can only be achieved by doing a clean install of vista
So that no acer apps remian

 

hei all long time.... well im glad to say my xp is still working very well.... but im now starting to wonder about other os's for this laptop.... anyone got any experiance with linux or mac os's..... i recently got a copy os iATKOS 5i which s supposed to sinatll mac os 10 on intell machines... i was thinking to give it a try but im not sure yet... since im not totaly tech'ed up thought id get a few other opinions..... about the games i seem to be able to play most games but GTA4 gave me some bother and NFS undercover played relatively ok but just didint seem to give me so good gameplay when the graphics were anything more than low....

 

Hello all

Tomorrow im going to order the Acer Aspire 5930G. My plans are to directly when unboxing the computer to install the xp sp3 and then all the drivers that i've downloaded for the xp in the begining of this thread.

Im also wondering if it's worth to buy the extra 1gb ram so i have the full capacity of 4gb. I know that xp only supports up to 3.1 gb's of ram but still it's only like 29 Euro for me to buy that extra ram. Will it make any difference at all with or without the extra 1gb ram if i use it in xp or do i have to use vista to see any difference?

Im mostly going to use the computer for watching movies, working, surfing on the web etc. But still i want to be able to play most of the latest games such as cod5, tomb raider underworld, gta iv, nfsu and more. Will i be able to do this with the xp sp3?

Best Regards

Vaquin

 

If you will maximize RAM to 4GB, it's recommended you get a 64-bit OS.
You could set up a dual-boot option by having XP SP3 32bit and Vista Home Premium SP1 64bit ... although, even XP SP3 32bit only will suffice.

Tell you the truth though, I'm personally using Vista Home Premium SP1 x64 most of the time, and I don't have issues with it at all.
I'm only booting into XP for stability when using very old programs.

You will be able to play all of the games you specified under XP SP3 without issues (or at least you shouldn't have any issues).
Although, to be entirely honest, you won't be able to maximize GTA IV for example or Crysis (if that's what you plan to play).
For those 2 games, you will be able to play them on medium settings most likely in native res (although there are mods for Crysis that allow you to gain for example Very High image quality and retain playable FPS as if you are playing on medium in native res).

Just make sure to have all of the drivers for XP ready.
My recommendation is to install XP by setting AHCI in bios to IDE, then install XP, chipset/sata drivers (and all other drivers), reset, and reenable AHCI in bios.

 

Thank's for all the great answers Deks, I will then use windows xp on my system. Though do i have to set AHCI in bios to IDE?, can't i just install the xp normal without doing any changes as i've always done on all my computers?

Best regards

Vaquin

 

Unless you have SATA drivers for this laptop on your XP install cd, you will have to change AHCI to IDE in BIOS and install XP like that.
After that, just install chipset, sata and other relevant drivers ... reset, re-enable AHCI in BIOS and you're set.

 

Okey, But what happens if i just put in the xp cd and try to formate the computer and install the xp without doing any changes. Will i make any damage to the computer or will it just not work to install?

 

If you try to simply format the hard drive and install XP without changing AHCI to IDE, you will likely be faced with a BSOD (blue screen of death) when the setup is in the process of loading drivers if you don't have SATA driver's slipstreamed on your XP cd.

 

Okey then i understand, but could you explain (excuse me if you think this is stupid questions) exactly from when i start up the computer until i have finished the installation of xp and the only part left is to install the xp drivers wich i have downloaded allready.

 

Ok.
Insert your XP install cd into the drive unit.
Start up the computer, then press F2 button immediately.
Once you are in BIOS, find the HDD options and change from AHCI to IDE.
Set the boot parameters so the DVD drive is the first device to boot.
Save and exit.

Boot into XP installation.
Modify the parameters of where you want to install XP (make sure to format the desired partition beforehand though) and that's about it.
After XP installs and you enter the OS, install chipset, sata, graphic card, sound card, touchpad, Wifi and LAN drivers.
Then restart the OS, enter BIOS and simply restore the hdd as the first boot-up device.
Save and exit bios.
Once you've entered XP, wait to see if everything installed ok, then restard again, enter bios, and modify the hdd parameters from IDE to AHCI.
Save and exit bios, and finally let the computer boot into XP.

Then proceed with installation of your desired programs.

Although, I would definitely recommend you slipstream both SP2 and SP3 onto your XP install CD in order to avoid a rather long update of the OS via internet.
Search these forums for a solution on how to slipstream the service packs.

 

if i install xp sp3 i will see any difference in gaming???now i have vista premium 32bit.thankssss.sorry for bad the english....

 

Depends really.
Some games might see an increase in frame-rates, but this is an iffy subject at best.
I'm gaming/working in Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for the most part while utilizing XP SP3 if I use older programs (which are compatible much more with that older OS compared to Vista) and my experience has been good.
The only issue I've encountered thus far was that I am having a slight problem with my NX-01 mesh I made years ago.
Previously, under 32bit OS, Max was rendering it in less than half a minute ... in 64bit OS, it takes almost 3 minutes for some reason because the object preparation takes far longer.
That's only happening with that one mesh ... others seem to function without a problem.

 

thanxx for the ansewer...what increase of framerate we are talking about???5 to 10 fps???i don't want to erase my current OS with no reason if i don't see any difference...

 

yeah you'll have a 10 fps increase max in some games but they will be less beautiful too cause of directx 9 technology so i don't think it's worth it unless making a dual boot like deks. Replacing your current OS isn't a good idea.

 

Thank's for the instructions deks

Best Regards

Vaquin

 

Actually, even if you'd be able to play games maxed out in DX10 ... the visual difference would be barely noticeable.
Assassins Creed for example only has slightly darker existing shadows in DX10 mode (which is also slower compared to DX9)

 

which games???give me an example...now i play all games in maximum in native resolution with no problems...

 

Another subject i noticed that my gpu and core temps are closely linked while gaming. If Gpu goes up to 80 core too...if 70 same thing.
Finally I like my T5800 because he doesn't produce much heat, never seen it above 80-81°C under strong stress and with an overclocked gpu.
BTW i don't know if it's my PhysX last upgrade or my new reasonable overclocking way of life ( i lowered my gpu's frequencies) but my 3Dmarks score has made a 400 points jump.
Maybe you should try last PhysX upgrade ;-)

First HD 4670 bench on an amd station, it should score about 7000 pts, not bad :
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4670.13881.0.html

Well, knowing the test was made with a Phenom X4 and 800 mhz ddr2, i don't think the card would score more than 6000 with a T5800 and 667 mhz ddr2----> conclusion : marketing joke again ;-)

 

i don't have a problem..i want to know the difference in fps..some sites with benchmarks????sorry to bother...thankssss.

 

i play games on maximum settings except crysis and grand theft auto iv but in some games e.g nba 2k9 i have some lagging..

 

Hello, i'm new to this forum.
Hope you don't mind me asking some questions about the Acer Aspire 5930G.

I've installed Windows 7 a week ago, and i can tell the difference between W7 and Vista, but now i only want more performance out of the computer. I know the laptop isn't a "Gaming" PC. but i want to reach the limit.

Well, you all know the spec's: 2,0Ghz Intel Centrino 2, 3GB Ram, 320GB HDD, Nvidia 9600m GT, 15,4 screen and so on.

I overclocked the GPU so i could reach a good amount of point's in 3DMark06.

So far i've got this.

5635 3DMarks (stock)

6057 3DMarks (max temp 70°C)

6419 3DMarks (max temp 72°C)

6574 3DMarks (max temp 81°C)
With these settings:

Core clock: 620Mhz
Memory clock: 930Mhz
Shader clock: 1550Mhz

What is the highest score in 3DMark06 with this computer?
And what clock did that computer have?

// Borstad

 

well, i'm overclocked too. personally speaking i'm 625/1550/900 (6480 pts) and very stable while gaming. You should not go higher in frequencies, you can try of course but you will often have crashes in games like black screens and need to reboot computer. So it's not really worth it. I have exactly the same max temp as you 81°C. In addition, when i go 660/1650/925, i have less points in 3dmarks than in 625/1550/900, it seems there is a loss of performances when you go too high in frequencies. I know it's weird especially when temps are pretty low

6500 is already a good score, better than a stock 9700M GT. But if you want to reach the limit, go on it will probably crash but it's safe, just need a reboot. I tried 700/1700/950 but it crashed before the end of 3dmarks bench no score ;-) and anyway with 680/1650/925 i got only 6150...recently got 6560 with 635/1575/900 but it crashed too often in fallout 3. 625/1550/900 is definitely the best for me. I bet you can reach 6700 ;-)

 

Well, i played around with the clock and got this.
I figured out it's quiet stable the way it is now, tried out Crysis: Warhead on 83°C on the GPU,
and Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 on full graphics and 47-50 FPS = 85°C.



With:

Core Clock: 655
Memory Clock: 930
Shader Clock: 1640

= 6775 3D Mark's.

How to improve the score even more?
Can i turn up the Ghz's of the processor or anything else?

Maybe I'll get 6800 some day.

Highest yet?
(hope so )


//Borstad

 

no you can't overclock cpu sadly the gen clock is locked.
If it's stable in games after a few playing hours it's good then. It depends on the games, fallout 3 doesn't like OC. But if it's stable on crysis, it should be stable on most of the games. I bet you can go higher ;-) the 7000 points are just there looking at you Also do you notice a loss of performances when turning up frequencies above 660 like me ??? i'm curious...
Your cpu P7350 scores 100 points more than my T5800 because of 1066 fsb and 3mb cache. The only ways to really get more points would be the processor or gpu upgrade.
Or in a lower proportion, by putting some 800 mhz ddr2 with low latencies (but too expensive) or a faster hard drive maybe.

do you have a dual boot or only windows seven installed ??? If you do have dual boot, can you do some benchs under vista to see the differences between the two OS ???? But at first sight there's no differences in 3dmarks scores, in games maybe.

in laptopvideo forum i saw a guy who scored 7100 points with 9600M GT but don't remember which processor he had.

 

Did a new run on 3Dmark06 and got a score of 6801 point's.
Possible WR on this PC?

Screenshot:


I do not have a dual boot, i only have W7 installed.
I would like to upgrade the CPU, but I don't have any money right now.
What would you recommend?
Going to update if i get any higher on 3D Mark06.
Windows 7 i have is a 64bit Operating System. just so you know.

Sorry for my bad English

//Borstad

 

Ok so i download FEAR 2 Demo last night.
Let me say that the game runs like a DAWGG @ native resolution.
The ingame optimiser is pretty crappy I must say. I just placed most of the stuff to max or high (VSync off without AA - i can't notice it to be honest)
I get an fps of around 30. However that can probably go higher since I run Folding@Home in the background.

Quick question: Can you do GPU or CPU Software OC?

Spec: 5930g - John Lewis UK model

 

People ... do keep in mind that 3dMark scores aren't a solid indication of in-game performance.
So even if your Mark scores are lower with higher (stable) frequencies on the gpu, chances are that in-game performance will benefit.


You know ... I was also thinking on overclocking my gpu ... by 30% overall.
And given the fact I already have Zalman to cool down my laptop ... I think there will be a 10 degrees increase in temps because of overclocking, and due to Zalman, my overall temps should reach levels of stock ones.

Questiong ... did you guys use bios flashing to overclock the cards, or software?

 

does anyone play nba 2k9???what FPS did you get??sorry for bad english...

 

Kallogan

As I said, 3dMark scores aren't always an indication of how games will play.
The higher the clock frequencies of the gpu, you will probably get higher frame-rates.
3dMark has a tendency giving off mixed results at times, but it's just a general all-round test.

I'd say, stick with 625/1550/900 frequencies as 4 FPS increase on higher settings ain't really worth it if your gpu is acting unstable on them.

One more thing regarding your 'desired cpu':
I think T9800 would be better because that way, we can undervolt it without issues, whereas T9600 has half multipliers and undervolting would result in downclocking.
Although to be completely honest, I don't think it's a big deal to begin with because T9800 is WAY too expensive.

Remind me again though, why the lower latency RAM?
I don't think we'd gain anything performance-wise.

 

Just curious guys. I am using 189.20 drivers, I am not OC'ing and my GPU temp regularly goes up to 85 when playing fallout 3 and idles quite high aswell. Its summer in Peru at the moment so I sit here playing with the air con on at 16C, with jumper and tracksuit on! I have a cooler aswell (granted its a bit of an old one).

Are these temps anything I should be worried about? - reading what has been said on here, 85 seems a bit high. I have never had a crash yet ingame, its extremely stable. But am I possibly damaging the GPU or anything with these temps?

 

Bodkin ... those temps are a bit ... higher than usual.
How long do you have the laptop?
Have you tried cleaning out the air-vents?
Usually, temperature increase is connected to the air vents not being regularly maintained (cleaned).

Turn off your laptop and vacuum ALL of the air vents on your laptop (and cooler) thoroughly.
You might also try to use a compressed air in a can for cleaning the air vents as well ... although vacuuming can get the job done easily.


Also ... if you are utilizing DOX's drivers, do keep in mind that they have a tendency of causing higher temps compared to standard drivers.

 

85C is normal if you play fallout 3 for an hour or so (without a cooler that is). What is your idle temp?

 

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I've read contradictory comments about that, but after a deep search i've found some users' feedback who said that's totally useless except maybe for specific applications.
No noticeable increases for gaming for example (about 1-2% !!!! ridiculous !!!), memory capacity would be by far the most important thing here. It even seems that upgrading with a faster hard drive would bring a more noticeable increase ;-)
Maybe i'll put a 64 bits OS, my non-recognized 1GB ram must be bored....windows seven probably.

189.20 doesn't exist try 185.20 or 181.20 ;-) Bordkin, I'm curious do you have a P8400 core on board ????

 

Maybe we'd experience better performances in games if we upgraded to DDR3 RAM.
Then again, real life benchmarks only showed an increase of 5% performance-wise.
The real difference is that DDR3 obviously uses less power, produces less heat, operates on a higher frequency at the same time, and uses a different slot (oh yes, and it's extremely expensive).

When it comes to RAM (at least in this day and age), quantity is what's important for RAM hungry applications and multi-tasking.

Installing 64bit OS though is a better way of using full 4GB RAM (and more of course).

Also ... to my knowledge, I think that Windows 7 will come out in both 32-bit and 64-bit 'flavors'.
While it is true that 64-bit OS-es are starting to be installed on laptops with high enough RAM, 32-bit is still not phased out.

Btw ... I'm contemplating on getting that 2GB RAM for my lappie.

I'll probably get it before I leave for UK (btw, I FINALLY got my student visa and am leaving on 5th Feb).

 

Guys I'm a little worried, as to why my temps hit up to 93 degrees when gaming on a desk!!! :O

I live in a really dusty place so I think I am going to vacuum my ports and then see what happens

 

Well, just to update, I vacuumed out all the vents, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE

Before, playing GRiD, after about 15mins I would see the temps ~90 deg. so I would get worried and raise the laptop up above the desk, and maybe put a fan next to it.

I just got through testing it, and after playing GRiD flat on the desk for half an hour here are the results:


Much better than be4,however I think there is more dust still, so I may ask my friend to clean out my vents using compressed air.

Here is a shot of my temps ~10 mins after playing, with the laptop on my lap:


So not only does it not get as hot as before, it also cools down much faster

 

Of course it does.

Btw ... don't play in your lap.

 

which ram ???

"So not only does it not get as hot as before, it also cools down much faster"

good news wow it had to be very dusty

 

Kingmax Mars SO-DIMM 2GB DDR2 667MHz 200-pin
(KSCE)
Nothing special really, just regular RAM with latencies of 5-5-5, and 1.8V.

 

Hello to all!
This is my firts post here, I'm from Spain, (sorry if my english isn't too good)

I have installed a T9600 into the 5930g!

In the next days I will post the "step to step" guide, and benchmark results comparated with the P8400 in 3dmark063dmark05, aquamark, gta4, etc...

Bye!

 

Alcyonex I love you !!!! Exactly the processor i was planning to get !!!

don't forget to tell us about the temps please ! thanx !

 

Very low temps!! 1ºC or 2ºC below the P8400 after 30min of Prime95 (dual core at maximu heat). I think that this is due to the thermal grease that has the Acer, that is a s*hit! xD

Now i'm searching a pair of good mems at 800Mhz, any idea please?

 

I think you can just stick with 667Mhz RAM ... switching to 800Mhz won't make a difference really.

I'd love to see the guide for installing T9600 cpu into 5930, benchmarks (both 3dMark06, games and possibly 3dsMax) along with temperature readouts.

 

Ok, any recomentation of 667 Mhz low latency memories?

Sometimes it's better a 667MHz memory than a 800Mhz

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=3&artpage=1964&articID=472