Acer Aspire 6930 cpu upgrade

Hi,

i am considering an upgrade of my cpu but am not sure wich cpu to buy. Either T9600 or P9600. I know P9600 works cooler and consumes less power, but i dont actualy know how much lower it´s performance is.
( got my information here and some on intel´s website )

My current config is:
Intel Core2Duo P7350 2.0ghz
Geforce 9600M GS 512mb DDR2
3gigs ddr2 ram.

I´d like to increase the gaming performance mostly, so is the cpu upgrade worth it considering the cost?

Thx in advance!

 

The P9600 will be slightly slower. Hard to notice really.

It will be a better buy, if you can find a non-ES version. You could also wait for the [email protected], which will be released early next year.

Might as well, check the BIOS release notes for microcode updates, in order to ensure full compatibility.

And the 9600M GT is GDDR3 BTW.

 

Thank you for the opinion Andy, i also think P9600 would be a better choice. But i am not realy sure how much gaming performance will be increased. I mean, im not sure is it worth it.

Also, i am aware that 9600M GT has GDD3 ram, but sadly my 9600M GS does not

 

Oh yeah. I never learned to read. GS is DDR2.

The CPU upgrade will only improve FPS by about ~10 frames/second.

The 9600M is a mid-range GPU, and high-end gaming is a bit hard for it to cope with.

 

10fps could make a lil´ difference right? I mean, gpu upgrade would be much much more costly than cpu thing i guess.

There are some ebay offers T9600 and P9600 alike, it states there "Acer Bios". Now i´m only smart enough to know they are for my chipset (P45) and that being said they should fit right?

Yea, learned to read when i thought i´d get GDD3 and instead i got this DDR2 thing ;(. Like slap in the face i tell you, but still this laptop was a nice deal considering it´s price/performance relation.ž

Still it is theoreticaly possible to install 3 gigs of DDR3 ram , not sure how that would work out though.

I guess i´ll just wait a month or two till the prices get a lil´ lower and then buy it... It´s time of recession, i hope that Intel will understand

 

It'll mainly depend upon the game, how CPU-dependent it is.

If your current CPU is actually bottlenecking gaming performance, then you'll notice an fps improvement with a CPU upgrade.

A 9600M GT GDDR3 will cost you about $200....not really worth it for the modest increase in performance. You might get similar results by overclocking your GPU.

And installing DDR3 RAM will not be possible, since it requires a different slot.

 

No DDR3, crap, you keep bumping me out. I do however still looove my notebook .

I´m talking about games like Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Gears of War, Assassins Creed and similar. I realy have no idea what´s bottlenecking there, my gpu or my cpu.

So, P9600 is the right choice if i´d prefer keepin´ it cool? ( to make it simple, if my gpu is 9600 so should my cpu be, also 9600 )

Thx m8 for all the answers, i realy appreciate it !

 

When playing those games, run task manager in the background, and whilst monitoring the fps in-game, Alt+Tab out and check the CPU utilization. If both cores are doing ~100%, then you should benefit from a CPU upgrade.

I can't say about the GPU. Try running 3DMark06 and compare your scores with the 9600M GT GDDR3. There are a couple of 5930G benchies in this forum (try searching).

The cost of upgrading both the CPU and GPU won't really justify the performance boost you'll get IMO, since you can't really sell the stock OEM modules to offset the cost of the upgrades, because Acer won't cover the upgraded modules under warranty, and may create an issue during warranty claims, etc.

 

WHERE?! I've only seen the 9600M GT GDDR3 at or above $300. At $200, it's almost cheap enough to risk buying and attempting the upgrade over my 9500M GS DDR2!

Also, 3DMark06 comparo from NotebookCheck.net reveals that a GeForce 9600M GS DDR2 will pull about 4300 at 1280x768, while a 9600M GT GDDR3 will yield about 5650 at 1280x800, keeping CPU and driver version constant (P8400, 175.97).

 

DOH! Its £200 ($300)

Anyway, here is linky....and that module has been tested in the 6930G.

 

Imho, nowadays game´s bottleneck is mostly Gpu related (if you own a decent cpu of course, which you have).

But it´s not that simple, it all depends on the resolutions you wish to play your games (and also how many filters (AA-AF) you wish to play with)

@ Low resolutions (under 1280x1024) => CPU is very important and can dramatically improve FPS
@ High Resolutions (above 1280x1024) => CPU is less important and can hardly improve FPS

You can check this to get an idea of what I´m talking about http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-scaling-in-games-with-quad-core-processors/5

Btw, 10Fps increase, as you will notice, it´s a very nice improvement.

Imho, I will not upgrade anything if I were you, but if I "have" to upgrade something in order to improve gaming performance, definitely it would be the gpu.

Good Luck and Kind Regards

 

thank you elbubi.

now if i were to upgrate to a nvidia 9600M GT GDDR3, could i sell my 9600M GS? And if so, how much could i ask for my current gpu?

The thing is, on the invoice i got from the store i bought my laptop in it stood 9600M GT even if i knew there wasnt one. So the worst thing that could happen if the new GT burns up on me or something i would get it replaced with a GS cost free, couse they dont realy know that much about laptops overe here so. also if they do, it is written on the invoice that i have 9600GT so they cant bother me sayin´ it was upgraded..

Im still thinking, if i can get a good burgin on my 9600M GS 512Mb i would get me GT instead.

Regards

 

Hey my question for you or anyone else is this....I have the same laptop but it has the 128 meg of shared Intel on board video ram so it sucks big time on the graphics side of things

Can I upgrade this, and as I see here I guess we are talking about upgrading the CPU as well???

This seems like a cool computer but I need to know what I can upgrade on it and everything with that

Thank you take care

 

so are you saying that a laptop like the 6930 with an intergrated intel or something chip might be able to be upgraded? to a 9600m or something???

 

The 6930G reviews i've seen have never reviewed this version of acer with a higher then P8400 CPU...if any1 has proof of a T9500 CPU working with the Bios of this laptop plz send link, i'd love to check it out!
Thanks!

 

sorry i noticed this later...but i don't think the 9600m gs is intergrated i'm sure the 6930G can come with an intergrated graphics option, but this isn't one of them...i think ! And no if a intergrated chip is used it can't be upgraded sorry.
Tiz

 

T9500 is for a Santa Rosa chipset(if I recall correctly) and won't work with your 6930G. T9400 should work though.

 

But most of the eBay sellers claim that T9500 is compatible with both P/GM965 and P/GM45

 

Well, I've never said I'm always right.

<s>Let me put it this way: I would never buy a Santa Rosa CPU to install it into P/GM45

Edit: Apparently there are 2 versions of T9500:

Santa Rosa: Core 2 Duo T9500 2600 6144 800
Montevina: Core 2 Duo T9500 2600 6144 1066

Again, I might be wrong and T9500 Santa Rosa version might actually work with PM/GM45.</s>

 

I didn't know for the 1066 version of the T9500 though

Me too But it would be great if it can fit on my future lappy - less parts to buy

 

My bad again, it P9500 actually. I need glasses..

 

We are humans after all I must spread some rep

 

lol Ok guyz, thanks for answering my question. But if anyone in the future does find some form of proof that, that processor works i'd love to check it out thanks.I'm not sure but i don't think that a P9500 or a T9500 but thats my thoughts on things...so don't go crazy on me please!
Thanks Tiz...oh BG rulez triturbo!

 

if you can look at this link it shows most if not all the chipsets. if you have info that is missing, please pm me with the infomation so i can add it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets

this has taken over a year to do and is still a work in progress.
intel change chipsets all the time

so from time to time there is a compatibility issues that we have missed.

if your a member of wikipedia, please leave a comment.
Thanks
Phil

 

Okay to solve all your people problem let me put it this way that 6930G supports all T & P series CPU irrespective of santa banta chips used. This is what acer middle East told me and they said name the cpu you want from T or P and we will get it to work.

Secondly, all acer aspire 6930G come with integrated GM45 Chipset, which means if you remove mxm card it will switch automatically to Mobile Intel GM45 Graphics Controller.

Finally, highest and best graphic card you can get is Nvidia 9650M GT GDDR3 or Nvidia GT 130M GDDR3. since the power consumption is same which is between 23-25TDP. Which in otherwords MXM 2 (Medium Sized Notebook).

Got it and if you dont believe me ask the acer specialist out thier by your self. They will also say the similar thing.

 

Ive just changed some T4200 crap CPU to an SP9400 in my 6930G. Additionally to that, I've changed the 9600GS with an 9600GT (from a 7730G) too. And finally Ive popped in a Intel 5350 wimax card. All work well. So go for it!