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    Acer Aspire 8930G Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by hoangtruong33, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. trying59

    trying59 Newbie

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    Acer Aspire 8935G what are the diff from 8930g. Mine got nvida 240, 320 gig drive, 2.2 intel cpu. From what I m reading it seems that I can run a second hard drive which I ve got out of my old laptop. It also seem that upgrading the cpu is a dream in the 8930g. Just 15 min and your done. I thought about it in my other laptop but 2 hours to take that one apart is far to much time and also to easy to screw up on a hp.

    Also is the video card upgradeable in 8935?
    Are there throdeling problems is the 8935g?? \
    thanks
     
  2. vrooom

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    This is the 8930g thread - you might want to post those questions in the main forum about the 8935g as I doubt anyone who checks this thread will be able to help you.
     
  3. lctrumpet

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    Alright, I've now thoroughly tested the new updates for drivers n such.
    Sound - No more popping, but bass seems a little quieter (or my ears are going out :p )
    Video - The Verde drivers only have the advantage when playing videos online from Youtube. For games, the fps went down a couple fps, but not much. If you can wait an extra 5 seconds for the video to load, don't install this driver. The Adjust Brightness function doesn't work. Will be reverting shortly, as I use this feature quite often.
    BIOS - v1.20 - Only differences I can see are that some of the temperature probes no longer give accurate readings. I highly doubt that one core runs at 7996F while the other is at 32F. Checked with RivaTuner/IntelCPUObserver
    Still waiting for Acer to come out with a BIOS version that will actually be USEFUL to those of us that don't like to hack the bios...just saying. not holding my breath tho >.>
     
  4. chriscatt

    chriscatt Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, I also have the 1.20 bios and with real temp both cores are at 10c, lower than ambient. If they were true readings I'd be over the moon but it looks like the sensors aren't being read at all.
    Chris
     
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    the cpu temps never work here anyway there always stuck at 1 temp no matter what you do, ie at mo there at 32c
     
  6. lctrumpet

    lctrumpet Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, seeing that made me all :eek: :eek: :eek:

    That is what it seems like. I've tried a few programs that say that they can read the "true" values, and still relayed the same huge values :(
     
  7. shaneee

    shaneee Notebook Geek

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    I think i found a solution for the temp of the cores that are stuck. use the program speedfan.

    1. Go to Start Menu -> Control Panel -> User Accounts and Family Safety -> User Account.
    2. Click on User Account Control settings link.
    3.Slide the slider bar to the lowest value (towards Never Notify), with description showing Never notify me.
    4. Restart laptop.

    Now when you already had speedfan you will notice that speedfanb recognize some more temps. in speedfan Go 2 Tab Reading and click on configure, Choos the Core0, Core1, Temp1 And ofcourse the GPU.

    Now restart your lap again. when it is started up immediately open speedfan again. Now you will notice that temp1 has the same value as core0 and core1, But the only diffirence is that temp1 is changing and core0,1 not

    I think this is only a good indication of the temp inside the cpu, because now you can't see the temp of the core0 and the core 1.

    Tell me what you guys think about this solution.
     
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    el_zari Newbie

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    yeroash Notebook Guru

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    lctrumpet Notebook Enthusiast

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    The bios works well. Seems like the temperatures are more accurate at least.

    It worked! I don't know what the difference was before when I had done this, but this time it worked. Perhaps it was the 1.20 bios!
     
  11. shaneee

    shaneee Notebook Geek

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    No it's not the bios 1.20 it worked for me on the bios 1.14 also. i think acer screwed something up with the sensors.. core 0 and core 1 are stuck but temp 1 worksxd...so finally whe can read the temp off the cpu
     
  12. lctrumpet

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    Right that's what I meant, but I didn't clarify so sorry! :D
    New problem (not with the bios)
    I'm on battery in a lecture hall for 2 hours. Usually I last for 1:40, but lately it's been shutting down at 1:01 (50% remaining). Yes, I've tried changing the values in advanced power settings. Does windows 7 hate our battery or could one of the cells be going bad in the battery?
     
  13. shaneee

    shaneee Notebook Geek

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    hmm, i don't have that problem but i do have a problem when the battery is almost empty. Normaly windows will give you a notification...but sometimes it doesn't! verry strange xp..also 1 day when i run battery mode, the battery status was zero! it couldn't recognize the battery at all! lol

    I also heard that the battery life on w7 is less then on vista/xp

    Maybe this is a bug in w7?! I also heard that w7 can see when a battery has a fault, it will say "Consider replacing your battery"

    i Think windows is giving you the wrong information.
     
  14. lctrumpet

    lctrumpet Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well there's a bug in something alright. Take a look at the attachment. It's from BatteryMon. I don't know if this is OS-induced or hardware-induced.
     

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  15. shaneee

    shaneee Notebook Geek

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    hmm is see. It is jumping all the way from 100% to 41%.

    If your battery have a fault windows would let you know, so i think it is just a w7 bug. maybe you can try battery eater pro. this program wil test the battery life time in 2 stages 1. by stressing your lap 2. by sending a text document to your hd every hour. in the results you can see how long the battery can last, compare this time with the time windows gave you.
     
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    Just became a owner of a 8930G. Bought it off of Ebay used. I knew it had a problem, why I got it so cheap. After running multiple tests, the hard drive & memory seems fine. The original problem with the laptop was it didn't always boot correctly. It would load Vista, and after the green loading bar, it would just stop. Black screen, the back light would be on, but nothing on the screen. Also if you crtl alt del it, it would do the same. Had to power it off and back on for it to show post, etc. So when I got it, I ran tests on the hardware, then installed another SATA drive and tried Windows 7. Well 7 told me the device had a problem, code 43. Then it refused to allow me to reinstall the video drivers. Said it couldn't find the correct hardware. This happen after I tried to turn Aero theme on. Rebooted into Vista and it seems fine until you run anything like a video or 3D applications, such has Aero flip, or games. It would lock the system. Has anyone had this problem? I have looked at replacing the video card, and it seems it has a 9600M GT DDR3 512MB MXM-II. I have found they are pretty expensive, so for budget, I can get the 9650M GT DDR2 1GB version. Should I go ahead and get another video card and pray the motherboard is good?
     
  17. lctrumpet

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    Yikes! And I thought I was having problems! :eek:
    Well, first, that 9600M GT has 2815MB Total Available Memory, as opposed to the 512MB.
    Next, try this driver: 64-bit http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winvista_win7_x64_197.16_whql.html 32-bit http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winvista_win7_197.16_whql.html
    If that doesn't work for you, then the only thing that I can recommend is backing up any data you might have on it, then put the 7 disc in, and delete both the Vista and existing 7 partition, and try a clean install from that.
     
  18. kcraptor82

    kcraptor82 Newbie

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    Well, I have tried 3 different drivers, and still the same. That is why I think the video card is shot. Also the Vista install boots sometimes, and other times it don't. It is also a clean OEM install. Also the Windows 7 is also a clean install on another drive. I just change the boot and pick what drive I want. So it has to be the video card!
     
  19. lctrumpet

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    Yea, that logic works. :-/
    I am personally not sure how to change the GPU, but am interested in how to. Someone else might have the same question, so maybe a "Dummie's" guide? :D
    Sorry I can't be of more help!
     
  20. kcraptor82

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    Well, come to find out, the system needed a good cleaning. I decided to take it apart at work, and I checked everything out. Clean all the dust out, even put new heat sink grease on the video card. Well after I did all that, put it back together, and what do ya know, it works like a champ! The BIOS was reading the video as 64MB, but now it shows the 512MB like it should. So if anyone else has this problem, try cleaning your laptop every now and then, :) No video problems any more for me so far!!!
     
  21. lctrumpet

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    Glad it worked out for you! Amazing how dirty that thing could've gotten that fast though. Kinda sad. lol
     
  22. shaneee

    shaneee Notebook Geek

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    Did someone ever tried to switch the cpu for an intel core 2 quad extreme qx9300? according to intel it is compatible with intel pm45, but i've heard that the bios also have 2 exept it.
     
  23. vrooom

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    If I remember correctly some tried with varied success. For some it worked, for others it didn't and it all depends on the motherboard in your 8930g - apparently there are different iterations.

    There's a discussion about the quad core back in this thread somewhere...
     
  24. zerranoss

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    My apologyzes, i dont know how to send private messages on this board :) so then please if you see this post send me a mail "el_zari" i need some assistante and its going to be easy speaking directly to you becase im spanish too :p
    (ive not read the rules on board, ill hope to dont break a rule posting my mail)

    [email protected] (si puedes y no te importa ponte en contacto conmigo que no me aclaro y tengo problemas tambien con el Aspire 8930g, un saludo!)
     
  25. shaneee

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    ok thanks i will search back in this treat.
     
  26. Evangelos

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    Hello.I am new to this forum and I wanna ask if there is any way to overclock my cpu!!!
    My laptop is the Aspire 8930G with the P7350 CPU
    THANKS
     
  27. shaneee

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    Since I got my video working, I have been loving my laptop. But I have noticed when I play World of Warcraft, my temps on my video have ranged from a min of 42 C, and a max of 75 C. Is this normal range with these units? Just asking because I am running the 1.19 SLIC 2.1 BIOS and was wondering if it had issues with the sensors. I have read many threads, including this one, and was worried.
     
  29. shaneee

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    Those are normal temps for an 9600m gt. Mine 9700m gt wich is higher clocked gets max 95 degrees!! so there is nothing to worried about.
     
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    I've noticed that when Im playing BF:BC2 on my 9700m GT card it sometimes throttles - been running gpu-z and sometimes when the temp has been around 95-97 degrees C for a while it throttles down to half its speed and the game becomes unplayable - then after about 30 secs it is back to normal again.. can't find any solution for this either... perhaps I need to buy a new cooler or something that can handle the 9700mGT temps.. any ideas?
     
  31. shaneee

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    hi ericel,

    this is a well known problem allot of people had this problem. but finaly after a long time someone has a fix for this. The problem occures in your cpu, it is downclocking for some reason while gaming. there is a program called trottlestop, this will fix the problem you have. on this link you can find all the information. if you need help send me a message :D.good luck

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=452692..
     
  32. Ericel

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    Hi Shaneee!

    I dont think it is my CPU.. ive been monitoring both (switching out from BF:BC2 when throttling begins) and as far as I can see my CPU is running at normal 2.26Ghz speed, however my GPU is running on approx half its stock speed.. I'll check out throttlestop :)
     
  33. shaneee

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    I also had that problem the cpu was downclocking making the gpu also downclock.
    Jus tdownload the program trottlestop. follow the steps. Then you can see if that was the problem or not.
     
  34. Agony

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    I have a question,i have overclock my 9600m gt from 500 -1250 to 625 -1550 the clocks of 9700m gt with the Nvidia tools the clocks confirmed with everest Gpuz and the have been like 9700m gt.
    BUT with stock clocks 3d mark 2006 4.300 and with 9700m gt clocks 4.513 , what is going wrong ?
    Thanks a lot
     
  35. yeroash

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    :eek: mmmmmm, what happens if I used too much thermal grease (AS5) ?
     
  36. Agony

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    If the paste is NOT silver you will have no problem.
     
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    Hello. I have one as well with Windows Vista Ultimate on 32 bits, installed this morning. Installed every driver on the Acer site, and all the programs except eRecovery. For some reason, it will not let me install it. But that is not the problem. I cannot seem to get my remote control to work. Is there driver i skiped that is noton the Acer website. Everything else works fine. including the Gemstone.

    Thasnks,
    Andrei B.


    Edit:Got it fixed. I have removed the bateries and put them back in. Now it works.
     
  38. lctrumpet

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    What are all your system clocks at now? I boosted my clocks to what you have, but what about the CPU mem clk?
    Also, I'm still looking for a way to overclock the PM45 board, but I need the PLL ( :confused: )
    Thanks!
     
  39. shaneee

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    @agony

    because THE 9700m gt is ddr3 and THE 9600m gt is ddr2 That is much slower. So 9700 it isnot only à higher clocked 9600
     
  40. yeroash

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    :( it IS silver, I used about half pea size, now I see on the Arctic Silver website it should have been about the size of a grain of rice. I'm using the laptop now, it seems fine, but I think it might give me problems in the long run :confused:
     
  41. atmadden

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    I have a 9600m gt and it is ddr3. I thnk the only ddr2 version is with 1gb memory.
     
  42. lctrumpet

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    Then what version of the 9600 has 2815MB Ram? cuz that's what I have, and one program says ddr3 and another says ddr2 :confused:
    I know someone else was wanting to upgrade theirs, so if anyone else knows, please respond! :D
     
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    This bios caused me some problem after installing and reboot. I login and get a windows vista activation screen says to enter product key or new one or contact acer. I got scared. Went to enter key then cancel. Got desktop but it is missing background. Going to install 1.20 official see if that fix the problem. Do you know what might be wrong?

    Now i installed official 1.20 bios and it loads everything but on desktop on right corner it says this copy of windows is not genuine. Vista build 6002. Can someone help me to fix this? I am using the genuine vista x64 that came with the laptop. Dont know where the key is or how to fix this?
     
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    LOL didn't you see what the original poster said?
    SLIC 2.1!
     
  45. Daking

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    Oh i thought this bios had the vt technology enabled also. What does slic 2.1 do? Anyways i rentered the key from the sticker on my notebook even though it says windows is activated in system properties. It still said this is not genuine in the corner of desktop. So i ran some script from microsoft tech i found on google for this message appearing and after reboot the message seems to be gone...
     
  46. Agony

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    The problem is that the silver paste when the temps are high it liquids it self so its dangerous to the parts if it is a lot of it.
     
  47. Agony

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    As always Shaneee you help a lot. Thats true the 9600m gt with 1g is ddr2
    the 9700m gt and 9600m gt 512mb is ddr3 ,Thats why i cant see any diference when i overclock mine with 1g ddr2.

    Ps. What if ??? flash my 9600m gt 1g ddr2 bios with the 9700m gt 512 ddr3 bios? I have a friend with 8930g with 9700m gt.

    Ps.2)If i cant flash the bios is it easy to buy from the market ? and what is the best card that 8930g can work with ?
     
  48. shakennstirred

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    you don't
    that 2815mb includes system ram thats it can use if needed
    cpu-Z will tell u what u have as dedicated ram on the 9600
     
  49. shakennstirred

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    update

    well i found out what the problem was
    it was the motherboard not the cpu
    few weeks ago i sent the 8930 off back to acer(with out the x9100)
    and they found the motherboard needed replacing.
    since i got it back and refitted the x9100, i haven't had 1 crash, so its finally sort n running great
     
  50. shaneee

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    Iam not a expert on flashing a bios, so i have no idea if it works! :p..There is also a topic about the 8930g mxm cards. the best card that fits the 8930g is the 9700m gt! the market off mxm cards is not big!! you can get amxm cards off www.mxm-upgrade.com and from ebay. There is a guy from the mxm-upgrade who said that it is possible to swap the card for an HE card(this type off cards has an extra power tab for more power. the 8930g gpu doesn't have a HE slot, BUT he has managed to run a 260m gtx in the 8920g(wich is little bit older) without using the extra tab, but it overheats @ stock clocks.. so now the ar undervolting and reducing the clocks in order to find a sweet spot. i haven't heard annything so far, the are still testing.

    So that is big news for the 8930 owners if it works. the only disadvantage is that if the card works without overheating, The card will not perform like a gtx 260m! because the have to reduce the clocks in order to get a lower temp"But who cares"! :D it will always be faster then the 9700m gt and 9600m gt!

    If it works a will definility buy one :D

    check out this link and look for the guy ice-tea:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=396320&page=60
     
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