Acer Aspire 8930G processor

hello people sorry for this kind a stupid question but it wonder's me i have to be sure here is my question

i bought the acer aspire 8930g but on the net there are diffrence specification with the same brand thats confuse me . the question is on my laptop left side there is a logo says intel centrino 2 , do i really have this in my laptop how can i make sure how can i find out that i have intel centrino 2? coz i have bad feeling that they just put a logo on it doesnt really have that technology they might rip me of so help plz

 

OK, 17mavis, you've gotten a little confused. I can fix that.

The Aspire 8930G is indeed a Centrino 2 laptop (trust me on it), but Centrino 2 doesn't refer to a processor. It's a marketing term, basically. It means that your laptop has a) an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, b) an Intel chipset, and c) an Intel wireless card. If you're missing any one of the three, your laptop would only have the Core 2 Duo sticker

Acer's very reputable in its builds - they wouldn't gyp you on your configuration.

 

Depends on the cpu,if you have T5800 then you dont
if the cpu is say p7350 and up yes..

Both cpu's are Intel Core 2 Duo processors
but not centrino 2 tech.

 

The T5800 is Centrino 2 tech, because i have this in my laptop.

 

Centrino 2 means a Core 2 Duo processor with at least 1 GHz FSB and a 5-series Intel wireless card with Bluetooth I believe.

To be sure, check Control Panel > Device Manager for the processor and wireless.

Acer's a pretty big brand, they'd lose more ripping you off than you would lose.

 

toby1234 then why do we have the logo of intel centrino 2 if it doent really support i think all the acer aspire 8930G support intel centrino 2 tech i'm i wrong and yes i have T5800

 

I asked Acer the same question and their reply
was.
They were short of cases so used the cases with
the centrino2 sticker on for AS8930-6058 MODEL
which supports the T5800
which i have and that i have indeed not
got the centrino 2 tech with this model. And that i
kid you not was said to me.
Also i mentioned it has a label that says it can do
1080p HD res plastered all over the laptop which
also my model cant do.he told me he would look
into it,as to date iam still waiting for a reply.

I must give the guy 10/10 for B.S

 

i hope u ar wrong i dont think a big company does a such a thing like that

 

It can output 1080p via VGA or HDMI, so the 1080p labelling is technically correct.

 

Valid point,
one thing i do know is the T5800 only has 800 FSB its a rebrand of the old
T7250.
But your processor need a to have at least 1 GHz FSB
to use centrino2 tech.if iam not mistaken?

All the new p series 'ie' p7350 p8400 p8600 and so on can uterlise centrino2 tech

I know there is other parts that are needed to uterlise centrino2 tech to its
full potential but iam only covering the 'cpu' aspect as one part of the whole.

 

well i have 2.0 ghz for each single core ??

 

No, iam talking about the FSB OF YOUR 'CPU' ,if you have
the T5800 it will only be 800 mhz FSB it will not be-able to use centrino2
tech
You have to have at least a FSB OF 1066 mhz to be- able to
utilise centrino2 tech that is in the new P,series CPU.

T5800 has a 2 mb L2 cache and 800 mhz FSB
P8400 has a 3 mb L2 cache and 1066 mhz FSB

IAM NOT REFERRING TO WEATHER YOUR CPU IS 2.26 GHz OR 2.OO GHz.

But iam sure you are only joking with me?

 

well i.m not but u made me embarrassing

 

Sorry for embarrasing you 17mayis
it was not my intention.

 

What part of "Centrino is a marketing term" did you folk miss?! There is no "Centrino 2 tech" that you're missing out on by not having a 1066 MHz FSB!
However, since the T5800 uses a slightly older version of the Core 2 (Merom vs. the current Penryn), your notebook is missing out on SSE4.1. Not enough to lose sleep on.
As long as you have a Core 2 processor (ANY Core 2), an Intel chipset, and an Intel wireless card, you have a Centrino laptop.
Centrino 2 only came about with the latest generation of notebooks.

I honestly don't think that your laptop needs to have the fastest possible FSB to be certified Centrino. Especially since my laptop was given the Centrino sticker when it only had a 667 FSB processor (the max for my chipset is 800).

 

must appologise have just got in from a night round the town.... as far as i was aware centrino 2 means 1066 fsb. i used to have at dell m1530 which hand a t9300 800 fsb centrino 1 now t 9400 centrino 2 1066fsb, also belive centrino 2 relates to the chip set and the wireless capabilities but esasit way of telling is fsb soeed x

 

Not really - they only called the latest platform Centrino 2 because people were getting confused between different versions of the Centrino platform.
Go read Wikipedia's page on Centrino, but the basic rundown is:
Centrino (wings logo) - Pentium M notebooks (Banias/Dothan)
Centrino Duo - Core 1 Duo (Yonah) & Core 2 Duo (Merom) notebooks
Centrino (new style, no swoosh) - Core Solo (Yonah)
Centrino (new style, swoosh) - Core 2 Duo (Merom/Penryn)
Centrino 2 - latest Core 2 Duo (Penryn)

 

The 45 nm Centrino 2 package is based on the Penryn CPU
which is P7350,P8400 and so.. on FSB 1066 MHz.

The 65 nm centrino 1 package is based on the Merom CPU
T5800 FSB 800 MHz which is the old T7250.

So that being the case it cannot be centrino2 rather the older
centrino1 ,so why do some of us have a centrino2 sticker on our
laptop ,should it no be a sticker just saying centrino.

 

Probably because of the chipset.
Centrino = Santa Rosa chipset(GL960/GM965), C2D/dualcore CPU and Intel wireless card 3xxx/4xxx series.
Centrino 2 = Montevina chipset(GL40/GM45), C2D/dualcore CPU and Intel wireless card 5xxx series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino_2#Montevina_platform_.282008.29

http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/centrino2/

So I think ALL notebooks, which have the new montevina chipset(no matter the CPU which is obviously an Intel C2D or a dualcore) and an Intel wireless 5xxx series SHOULD have this sticker. Why some of the notebooks don't have it? It could be as simple as - the person who assembled the notebook forgot to put it. Either way I don't see what's the big deal with these stickers.

 

Now whats a last result because i still didn't get the certain answer still more confuse do i have Intel centrino 2 technology with T5800 or not that simple? sorry for disturbing all u people with my silly question but it makes me worry and angry why they stick a Intel centrino 2 logo if it doesn't support for real

 

If you have Intel Wireless card(5xxx series) then yes, you have Intel Centrino 2 technology.

 

yes i went throgh the device manager under the network section there is
Intel(R) Wireless Wifi Link 5100 but what is this with intel centrino 2 duo i thought is some thing with a processor not a network or wireless..

thanx

 

Centrino/Centrino 2 is a platform - a packet if you will. Basically it means you have everything essential in your laptop made by Intel. Nothing more.
In your case Centrino 2 = Chipset: GM45/GL40 | CPU: T5800 | WiFi Intel 5100.

 

here are some things whichs i dont know it has any thing with intel centrino 2 or not which may help u make a clear opinion ab?

 

Yeah, your laptop is Centrino 2 certified.

 

I have to disagree it is indeed centrino but not centrino2
GM45/GL40 'YES '| CPU: T5800 'NO' | WiFi Intel 5100 'YES'
MIN = CPU 7350 'YES'

 

i Won't comment on ur opinion i leave the comment to ATG if u don't mind?

 

Toby is quite right as according to Intels own website:

The confusion for people however is you can have a Centrino 2 capable laptop (like my 5735) but it does not qualify as a Centrino 2 because the CPU does not meet the specification.

Basically, if you upgraded the CPU to a 3MB cache 1066Mhz bus Penryn, then you would suddenly have a Centrino 2. However you should not have the Centrino 2 sticker on if you do not meet the specs, Intel would be very unhappy to find out they had done that as it undermines their marketing and confuses us, the customers.

So to summarise, yes you have a Centrino 2 chipset. The only thing you are missing out on are the things Penryn has to offer over Merom. Basically SSE4.1, slightly little faster performance at the same Ghz (I think) and I improved power management so your battery like might be a little better with a Penryn. Also the fan probably wont come on as much as they generate less heat.

 

Finally some body whom understands what iam referring to
and for that i thankyou "Alex Atkin UK" .

 

slight is an understatement.. clock for clock penryn's are about 15% faster than merom

 

Well, I guess I was wrong. Next time I'll do my research better. Stupid Intel marketing..