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    Acer Aspire Timeline Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by Tocharius, Jun 19, 2009.

  1. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    this is so AWESOOOOOME! been waiting for this for months now! thanks so much, dude! ill check this out right away! :D

    +rep, uve definitely earned it ;)

     
  2. shuhailnp

    shuhailnp Notebook Consultant

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    anyone knows how to tune gma 4500mhd?
    as it is underclocked in timeline series...
     
  3. jaybee83

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    all ive seen so far in overclocking intel`s gma is this: http://www.gmabooster.com/home.htm

    (not ready yet for 4500x versions but its worth to keep an eye on)

    and why do u say its underclocked?
     
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    jmmorgado Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    I am verry interested in overclocking my 4330... Can you please tell me what are the main diferences for the 4330 from that guide you published?

    Thank you!
     
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    wyemarn Notebook Consultant

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    It's not really underclocked because GPU clock frequency for GS45 is 320mhz. Only GM45 will get the full 500mhz clock speed. GS45 is designed for low power, ULV notebooks so power saving is the main priority. It still shares the same features of GM45 like 10 unified shaders and Intel Clear Video so watching H.264 blurays are piece of cake. I can watch 1080p movies with 20~30% of CPU utilization and play old games like Rome Total War at native resolution with medium to high settings.
     
  6. shuhailnp

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    thanks i will check that


    ohk now i got it...
    hha why didnt i knew that...



    and for info please check out new splash player it has very powerfull h264 decoder...
     
  7. jaybee83

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    no differences actually, just need to focus on a few points in order to get rivatuner to start and work normally under windows 7:

    reboot, press F8, start win7 with disabled driver signature enforcement
    download rivatuner 2.24c, unpack install.exe and "Drv.rtu" file
    install rivatuner and start program
    double click on drv.rtu file and add x64 drivers (on x64 systems only, of course)

    now follow the already quoted guide to manually add the 4330 signature in the rivatuner .cfg file (add in "RV710" line) and enjoy overclocking! :)

    worked like a charm for me, thanks again for the guide!

    cheers
     
  8. 5ushiMonster

    5ushiMonster Notebook Deity

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    I got a bunch of DVD+RW out from storage and tried that and it worked (on the 3rd go). It verified and asked for the second disc, and it burned and verified that without a hitch... Then I just made isos off them and burned them to DVD-R. The app recovery seems to burn with DVD-R now. Hmm...

    Yeah. My relative loved everything regarding my VAIO Z but its price-tag and chose the Acer since it was so cheap ($750US here in New Zealand). It comes with a HDMI port, but has some slight lags playing full hd though...
     
  9. jmmorgado

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    Thak you so much! I'll try that as soon as possible. I have an exam tomorrow... After that I'll post the results!
     
  10. jaybee83

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    here some preliminary OC results:

    default / OC
    GPU & Shader 450 Mhz / 551 Mhz (+22.4%)
    Memory 600 Mhz / 729 Mhz (+21.5%)

    Temps (2000 Frames in Furmark)
    GPU Temp 86C / 89C
    Shader Temp 86.5C / 90C
    Memory Temp 84.5C / 88C

    Scores
    3DMark03 7758 / 9425 (+21.5%)
    3DMark05 5133 / 6254 (+21.8%)
    3DMark06 2647 / 3222 (+21.7%)
    3DMark Vantage 1285 / 1459 (+13.5%)

    all in all, im very happy with the results so far :) just have to check how much further i can OC the memory. seems to me like there is still some more potential, when i see seam2's post.

    cheers!
     
  11. seam2

    seam2 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi jaybee83

    Great results but absolutely there is still more potential. when i oc the memory to 800 mhz i thought that it might be max value however then i tried 850mhz and i ve seen no problem so far so good. But above 865mhz it crashes. Also no more chance for gpu above 570 but i think 550 is enough for the gpu. These results are so close the mobility 4570's.

    By the way, did you install the new ati mobility driver 8.682.1 WHQL?
    it is not a modified driver it is acer driver but not appear on official website.

    http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/ati/mobility/ati_mobility_8.682.1_all(www.station-drivers.com).exe

    [​IMG]
     
  12. seam2

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    i ve just flashed the new BIOS ver 1.20. but i need patched with slic 2.1.
     
  13. jmmorgado

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    Hey man!

    I must say that your post really helped me out on OC my 4330, but there is a problem.
    You know, I did as you told and it now says on GPU-Z that the clock speed is 550 and the memory is 730, although when I went to the sensors page it says that both GPU and memory are runing at standard speed!
    I also runed 3Dmark05 (after OC) and I got nearly your result (5133 i guess).

    Do you know how to solve it?

    Thank you for your patience ;)
     
  14. jaybee83

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    hmmm....out of the blue i couldnt tell u anything specific. what graphics driver are u using? which operating system? did the installation of the rivatuner and the x64 driver go off without a glitch? is it possible to set the gliders in rivatuner to ur liking and apply the OC settings, so that the sensors in GPU-Z change their values to the new ones? do they then switch back to the default values or do they just stay at their standard settings the whole time?

    well figure something out, stay on it ;-)

    cheers
     
  15. jaybee83

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    nice! how did u find that new driver? and does it work flawlessly, switchable function and all? strange that acer wouldnt put it onto the support website, but maybe theyre just a little behind in updating theyre online presence ;-)

    as to the OCing: 550 so far seem to be a high enough and stable setting for the core, no argument there. concerning the memory, ive tried 800 but couldnt get it through furmark without the laptop freezing up. now im aiming for something in between the already benched 730 and 800, maybe ill be lucky. if not, it wouldnt be news that different graphic cards would have different OC potentials. the devil is in the details, thus in each and every little transistor and/or, in this case, each and every little memory chip could make the difference. nonetheless, im already very pleased that its FINALLY possible to OC the aspire timeline :)

    greetz
     
  16. Traxex

    Traxex Newbie

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    Hey

    Someone got a working tool for the Acer Travelmate 8371 to control the fan speed ? The fan is rly annoying in the AC Mode.

    I'd be grateful for any kind of help. :)

    Traxex
     
  17. seam2

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    Finally i ve just patched the bios v1.20 with slic 2.1 and realy works well :D

    -Motherboard Manufacturer and Model : Acer Aspire 3810T
    -Bios Revision :1.20
    -Bios Type : insyde
    -Bios SLIC : 2.0
    -Bios Link : http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/BIOS/BIOS/BIOS_Acer_1.20_A_A.zip?acerid=633977514070022867

    -Bios link with Slic 2.1 : http://rapidshare.com/files/330151293/BIOS_ACER_1.20_SLIC21.rar.html

    -Bios link with Slic 2.1 (Insydeflash v.3.4.5) : http://rapidshare.com/files/330151580/BIOS_ACER_1.20_SLIC21_InsydeFlash_v3.4.5.rar.html

    Note: if you already flashed this version of rom file before and using insydeflash 3.72 you'll see the message
    "The version of ROM file is the same version of BIOS"
    so in order to flash the rom you have to try with insydeflash version 3.4.5
     
  18. jmmorgado

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    Hello,
    I'm using the Acer Support Site driver on ATI (and Intel is the one wich comes with the ATI). It is the version 8.652.1.0 in device manager. I have Win7 x64 as you do. I installed the Rivatuner as you told and worked ok!
    The sensors always stand in the standard values.

    But, I have found something (possible a noob thing but ok...). If I switch in the bios to discret GPU the overclock works! If I have both cards running It won't overclock, althoug it says in GPU-Z that the speed is 550/800mhz.

    Ex:
    Switchable cards: GPU-Z says it is 550/800 but in sensor it reports 450/600 (I get aprox. 5155 3Dmark05 score)

    Discret card (only ATI): GPU-Z tells it is 550/800 and it runs at OC speeds!

    Do you also have only the Discret card working by BIOS settings?

    Thanks ;)
     
  19. jmmorgado

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    hey guys,
    do you recomend this new drive to be installed?
    how does it affects the battery life? Does it fix the power consuption by the 2 graphics when resuming from standby?

    ;)
     
  20. jaybee83

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    oh, thats quite interesting actually! i havent thought of that possibility yet. what bios version are u using, anyway? OC woks for me in switchable mode under bios versions 1.17 and 1.20 (havent tried others before, though). i finished my OC tests though and came up with the following max stable settings: core=551 memory=788
    didnt have any luck reaching the 850 stated here earlier, but still a 25% boost all in all, quite impressive! that puts the oced 4330 somewhere between a 4530 and a 4570 :)

    cheers
     
  21. maxim_fr

    maxim_fr Notebook Guru

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    Hi!
    Does anyone have a changelog of BIOS 1.20 for Timeline 3810 ?
     
  22. jmmorgado

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    I have 1.20 bios (same as yours) but I don't know why can you have OC on switch mode and I can't... Do you have the same driver version? Mine is 8.652.1.0

    Ah, and I'm noob in the OC thing but I thing it is stable at 550/800mhz... It goes up just under 80ºC on the GPU/memory. I guess that's ok for full load of the GPU.

    If I can get it work under switchable GPU's I'll update here!
     
  23. jmmorgado

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    Hey jaybee83,
    Is there any way to understand computers? xD
    I just went to dinner with my family and left my PC ON. When I came back the clock speed just was on OC values! I'm now on switchable mode and it is 550/800!
    On discret mode it just starts with OC values but on switchable mode it doesn't (can't explain why). Well, I'll enjoy the new clock values :)

    Thanks for your help (I guess it was a noobish thing of mine xD )

    cheers ;)
     
  24. jmmorgado

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    haha, finaly found when it does't run at OC speeds when it's configured to. I have to connect to HDMI and it fastly turns 550/800. and when I open the switchable cards menu (even without switching cards) it goes back to original clock values. Then I have to plug in the HDMI again. It's so strange! I think it is a driver issue...
     
  25. seam2

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    I haven't seen any changelog yet. But there is important change on fan speed as far as i examine. With bios v1.17 when running on battery and powersmart is active it is so silent however with the new bios v1.20 it is louder so i flashed back the old bios v1.17 with slic 2.1.
     
  26. seam2

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    Actually, i haven't seen any negative with new ati's graphic driver. Battery life seems same as before no change. Since i don't use standby, no suggestion about it. Also i didn't try switchable mode with these driver only use discret mode.
     
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    Thx man, I'm downloading the new driver right now.

    Also runned the 3DMark test with 550/800Mhz and got 6374 3DMarks! =)
    It's 23,6% more compared to the standard result (5155 3DMarks)
    And the GPU max temperatures barely change!

    ;)
     
  28. PSidler

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    With 1.20 mine draws a lot more batterydrain with the integrated graphic card than with 1.17. And the problem with high power consumption after standby is still not fixed. What a disappointment with Acer!
     
  29. seam2

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    @psidler

    the quoted post of mine is about ati's new driver not about new bios. I also mentioned at my previous post about fan speed that is louder with v1.20 than v1.17. Therefore with the bios v1.20 may draw more batterydrain. Since i flashed back to v1.17 i can't test.
     
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    Hi guys. I have a Timeline 4810T with Intel Core Solo 3500 running W7. Which bios version are you guys using ? I have recently flashed to 1.30 Special Edition , and I seem to be having issues now which I didn´t use to have before, with the 1.23 Bios version - I get freeezes and have to reset quite often. It might be something else, but apart from installing the latest W7 drivers and I don ´t remember changing anything else. What´s your experience ? Thanks
     
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    Receiving my Acer Timeline AS3810T with Win 7 today. I heard that folks recommend removing some Acer bloatware. I want to make sure I don't mess up the laptop, so looking for suggestions on what bloatware I can safely remove.
     
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    Everything except Launch Manager and Software drivers.
     
  33. LeoNYC

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    I am asking because I read several reviews of the new Acer Timeline AS3810t owners where they got the blue screen once they started removing the bloatware. I wonder what specific software packages that come with Acer Timeline I can safely remove. To put it simply, should I simply go to the Add/Remove Programs module and remove everything that has the word "Acer" in it? I assume it would be best to remove the default AntiVirus software as well and just download the free one on the web (like AVG).
     
  34. peroni

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    Since I flashed bios 1.20 on my 3810T I noticed the cpu always runs at 1.6 GHz.
    Do you also see this behaviour?
    Running Windows 7 HP and power saver profile.
     
  35. seam2

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    How do you realize this behaviour? Do u have any screen shot of any hardware program such as everest ultimate? i did not notice this kind of
    behaviour with bios 1.20 but since i flashed back v1.17 i can't retest it now.

    SU9400 CPU has Dynamic Acceleration Technology (IDA) option is Supported and enabled so it boosts CPU performance when the CPU is running single-threaded applications. This is achieved by temporary increasing frequency of one CPU core when another CPU core is idle. When i adjust high performance from power options it is enabled and boost CPU 1.6ghz suddenly and decrease back to 1.4ghz again according to single threaded applications i think. it is doing this by changing cpu multiplier from 7x to 8x even though the su9400 max multiplier is 7x.(little bit intresting). When cpu heavy loads with both cores it never reach 1.6.ghz. Always 1.4ghz. Therefore i see 1.6ghz only idle

    [​IMG]
     
  36. shuhailnp

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    wow is that possible in su 3500?
     
  37. hardc0re

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    Hi guys,

    I am also running BIOS 1.20 on a 3810TG. It doesn't boost the speed to 1.6GHz. What you are seeing is probably a wrong CPU speed reading from the software.

    When idle, the SU9400 enters the "Super LFM" mode where the FSB is halved to save power. The default speed in this mode for the SU9400 is 800Mhz (8x multiplier at 100Mhz FSB). The software you are using probably still thinks the FSB is 200 Mhz so with a 8x multiplier it reports the speed as 1.6GHz, when in fact the CPU is running at 800 MHz.
     
  38. jaybee83

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    nope, not true, CPU-Z reports both the 800 Mhz and 1600 Mhz states. Ive been seeing this behaviour from the beginning and been posting about that a while back in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=391646&page=110 (starting at post #1100)
    ive also come to the conclusion that the overclock only comes to be on occasions, when single-threaded programs stress the CPU.

    greetz
     
  39. hujik

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    I am wondering if Aspire 1810T is able to play FullHD video with multichannel (5.1) sound through HDMI? Or through SPDIF? As far as I want to use it as HTPC this is very important for me ...

    Does anyone have experience with this?

    Thanks in advance ...
     
  40. peroni

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    Thanks Seam2,
    I'm using CPU-Z to monitor the cpu speed and noticed that at idle the cpu runs with an 8x multiplier and when I run something intensive the overall CPU speed drops to 1.4GHz and the multiplier goes to 7x.
    I'm assuming it's IDA at work.

    CPU-Z does not report if only one core is being used and the other is switched off to save power, is there any other software able to do so?
     
  41. hardc0re

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    I think CPU-Z is reporting the wrong speed. I use RMClock to control the multipliers, and when the system is running in SLFM mode, RMClock reports the correct 800 MHz but CPU-Z reports 1.6GHz. But of course, the system is really running at 800 Mhz.

    CPU-Z is also unable to read the CPU voltage correctly if you undervolt using RMClock. Undervolting does work on our SU9400, at first I was not sure undervolting was working because CPU-Z still reported the default voltage. But then, I noticed that the system runs noticeably cooler when under high CPU load (7x multipler at 200 MHz FSB = 1.4GHz @ 0.875V for me).
     
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    hey hardc0re,
    I was wondering if you could make a simple explanation on how to do that... I mean, which PST under wich Index and what VID...

    Do you see any improovement on the battery life?

    Thanks man! ;)
     
  43. hardc0re

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    Hi, the way to undervolt the SU9400 is the same as other laptops. For my SU9400, I managed to use the lowest VID (which is 0.875V for me) for all multipliers. There are only 4:

    SLFM: FID: blank (actually 8x) VID: 0.875V
    Normal: FID: 6x VID: 0.875V
    Normal: FID: 7x VID: 0.875V
    IDA: FID: 8x VID: 0.875V

    I enable IDA too but I have never seen the CPU going into IDA mode because most of my apps are multithreaded.

    Battery life is about the same because when idle on battery, the default VID for SLFM and Normal 6x is already 0.875V. But under load, battery life is slightly better because the default VID for 7x is 0.95V but it can still run at 0.875V.

    I also did try to underclock the SLFM mode (default is 800Mhz) by changing the SLFM multiplier to 6x (600MHz). The CPU ran slower but battery drain didnt drop noticebly, so I just left the SLFM mode at 800MHz.
     
  44. jmmorgado

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    Thanks man!

    I don't know why but I can't get those low voltages. On my 9400 the lowest allowed is 0,9875v.
     
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    NVM... All I had to do was to configure the CPU to mobile type! :)
     
  46. hardc0re

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    I found something interesting. If you lock the clockspeed at the maximum 1.4GHz undervolted at 0.875V (thus disabling speedstep), it actually uses less power than the SLFM mode!
     
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    Hi there,

    any news about the 8371 and the fan noise? Using it with connected power supply the fan is very noisy. 1810tray won´t work. Does anyone has a solution?

    Thanks and Greetings
    Jan
     
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    Hi m8s,
    Havn't posted here for a while :) Acer posted new W7 software for Option GTM382E branded as "Acer 3G Connection Manager", and by the build version its newer then what we have from Option's site.
    Anyone tried it already? Is it any better?

    UPDATE:

    Just've tested it, basically the same thing but branded with Acer instead of Option. device drivers are 5.0.26 - AFAIR, the same as from Option...
     
  49. ah_rui

    ah_rui Newbie

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    Hi maxim_fr,

    I have been reading the timeline thread and u R a master in the installation of a 3G WWAN module to 3810TG. I have some queries on the process,

    1. From ebay, there seems to be 2 types of pcie card, option GTM382e and GTM382w. And i think u r using gtm382e, do u think gtm382w will work in 3810tg? Is the GPS functionailty the only difference between them?

    2. I understand u installed a wifi antenna u bought off ebay for $4. The main antenna was placed in the mini-sata slot and the secondary by the touch pad. Did you have to disassemble the entire 3810tg to install that? Or just the front (keyboard section)? Cox I dunno if I am "good" enuf to disassemble the entire machine.

    3. Has any1 else got reasonable connection with the small antenna that comes with the 3G card?

    Many thanks
     
  50. maxim_fr

    maxim_fr Notebook Guru

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    1. The other diffrence is the set of frequencies and equalization. E model is for European standard frequencies, W - works Worlwide :) Please refer to GTM382 datasheet on option's site for details. Please also note that most probably you will need special GPS antenna connected to AUX of GTM382 for the positioning to work...
    2. For this it is required to disassemble laptop almost entirely, the only thing left assembled is the screen. However I'm planning to disassemble the screen also in order to place antennas close to wifi ones. this should give me even better signal quality...
    3. I'm not using small U-shape antenna comes with my first card, but the set of 2 independent flexible antennas that are not any smaller then that Acer puts in laptops which are 3g equipped from factory. The main diffrence is that place where Acer puts its antennas is better.
     
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