Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T Thread

that is kool news

 

Because those who wrote those articles on those websites probably rank in the bottom 95 percentile when it comes to computer users; they know next to nothing about computers, and usually just read off a printed script.

 

definitive source?

 

It appears that the printed script they read on the 17th was different than the one they read on the 16th. Makes me wonder.

 

No mention of the 11.6" 1830 here either.

 

Argh, give me pricing on the 11.6" TimelineX models!

 

I hope it's within reason because I've been pretty happy with my 1810T. If it's too much, I won't hound our IT dept for it.

 

11.6" + 1336x768 resolution + Intel HD + i5 520UM sounds god-sent...

(I am using a 10.1" netbook as my main computer )

 

Yes. Plus the new Intel HD graphics are comparable to the low end ATI/Nvidia gpus.

 

i5???? Bleahhhh at least i7-640UM!!!!

 

am i missing something, has it been cleared up if its c2d or i5?

 

well one thing's for sure and that is it's definitely not going to be a Intel Pentium II.

 

Well, I am just so thrilled with my 1810T that there's very little I'd like to see improved. in fact, I dumped my EEE PC netbook and my 17" behemoth after realizing my Acer did a decent enough job replacing both.

But if at all possible, I'd like to see Acer stick to the $450, $550, and $600 price points (maybe a Core i3, i5 and i7?) like they did with the dual-core 1410/1810 series. Anything past $600, and there are just more compelling offerings from other manufacturers and with larger screen sizes. And hopefully Acer will keep something like an SU2300 1410 around at the $400 mark just to keep Dell, Toshiba etc on their toes.

So I'll definitely consider upgrading, finances permitting, If I can keep all of the good attributes of my 1810T and get slightly better performance and graphics all around (at least so I can decently play, say, CounterStrike:Source, Portal and WoW) while offering comparable battery life and a better keyboard. Then I'll be first in line with a pre-order! Otherwise, I'll just keep on truckin' with my current machine.

 

Update:

Here's a vague article from the Digitimes saying Acer is "optimistic" and has placed "a large volume of orders" for Core i mobile processors. I suppose this really bodes welll for the chances of seeing a Core i-based 11.6" machine soon!

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100318PD209.html

 

I agree with you about the $400-$600 price range. Using up to date processors shouldn't drive the price up.

Also, there is going to be a Aspire One 752 that is based on the current 1410 offerings. Acer is moving it to their "netbook" segment so they should be priced about the same as the 1410,

 

I have a feeling this will cost at least $599.99. Or maybe not? Will it cost more than the upcoming 1420/1820 tablets?

Link. Core i7's in big notebooks consume more power than the Core i5's, so will it be the same with the ulv models?

And didn't this happen before with Intel launching new processors and not having enough to go around. Why can't Intel ever be ready?

 

exactly. the gs45 consumes about 12watts. so combine with culv would be minimum 22 watts.

so you are saving minimum 4 watts with more performance to boot.

 

I hope the price stays the same or I'm not even going to consider the 1830 and wait till the next generation. My 1810T has been a great work horse.

Intel probably went with a small batch of processors to gauge consumer interest. They didn't want to do a huge run and then find out no one wants them and they'll have large inventories on hand that they can't get rid of.

 

Remember all this TDP talk is the maximum amount the chipsets consume, not the minimum. We may know that the Core i CULV's will have lower ceilings based on stat sheets, but we have no clue what wattage they will idle at, how fast they will idle, and how clock speeds have an effect.

Ie, my laptop with su2300+gs45 idles at 5 watts, which includes the screen and wireless card and etc. Loading a webpage spikes to ~7 watts and quickly returns.

So talking about TDP's will not get you anywhere. For a decent comparison test, check out the Thinkpad x200s and the x201s. Those are direct comparisons.

Using laptopmag's battery tests (which are consistent and internet browsing repetitive tests), the x200s with C2D SL9400 consumed an average of 8 watts. The x201s with Core i7-LM averaged an consumption of 11 watts. So from this case, the Core i ULV consumes almost 40% more power.

 

The comparison is wrong.. you can compare SU9400 or SU9600 with i7-620UM or i7-640UM!

 

So you're saying the SL9400 is less power consuming? It's not >_>.

And if you typo'd, yes I can compare them because we were talking about power consumption and battery life, irregardless of the power you gain for any trade offs; I never said there wasn't a worthy trade off for Core i performance, that's up to your own personal preference.

 

SU9400+GS45=system TDP 24.5 watts
i5-520UM+HM55=system TDP 21.5 watts
i5-520UM+HM57=system TDP 21.5 watts
i5-520UM+QM57=system TDP 21.5 watts
i5-520UM+QS57=system TDP 21.4 watts

 

The comparison has to be done in this way: comparing the life of the same battery in the same tasks of a SU9600+gs45+ddr3 to an i7 or i5 with same or similar performances... Other words, speculations, techincal data etc.. are just unuseful. That's it.

 

TDP is not accurate in determining power consumption. Off the bat arrandale processors sucks down more amps than its predecessor.

 

Jesus I didn't spend a whole post addressing this or anything...

@zooster, if they were at similar or same performances then there would not be a comparison at all, there would not be a need for a new generation of computers or processors at all...And my comparisons were there battery lives in the same tasks.

 

Prepping my 3810t for sale, really hope this is announced and available on Monday.

 

You really think they'll be immediately available?

 

I highly doubt it Give it a month or so.

 

Hopefully we can at least pre-order it.

 

Not good enough lol

 

i will be happy if this gets 5+ hours battery if performance of the igp is vastly better and the CPU is vastly better.

i want ULi

 

Guys stop arguing. The fact is that for now Arrandale does not use that much less power than Penryn Core 2 Duo, but all versions are much faster than their Penryn counterpart. There was an Anandtach article that said that when Intel refreshes Arrandale in Q3 of this year, they will include more power optimization features than in this first round of Arrandale processors.

Hopefully this isn't the case with the ulv's.

 

If i buy the 1830T with a Core i5 520UM or Core i7 620UM/640UM and then in the Q3 2010 Intel launches "Tweaked" Core i5 540UM & Core i7 660UM and these new chips provide more battery life then i wil be gutted.

How much tweaking will they do ? What will it result in ?

Considering the Current Crop of i7 & i5 are more or less consuming the same battery life as the Penryn Core 2 Duos then... Maybe the "Tweaked" ULV Processors will give 10-30 % more battery life.

In that case......

1. Can i upgrade the Core i5 520 to a Core i5 540....????

2. How much better will be a "Tweaked Core i5 540 than a Current Core i5 520...????

 

Yes why not. Same performances at less power consumption... isn't it an evolution and improvement of electronics??
Of course we are debating on better performances with less power consumption.
To evaluate this we need to compare 2 different cpu old and new one at the same perfomance just to see which one is more efficient, which is the one with less consumption. Only after that we can evaluate the raw performance.

 

Rana so many questions.It's a conspiracy by Intel and Acer to drive us mad.But don't you love it???(LOL)

 

hahahahaha.... lol....

yeah thunder... this drives me nuts man...!! I was ready to buy the 1810T when i heard of this.... So i have to wait for this coz it will be pretty idiotic to buy the 1810T when i know that the 1830T is just a few weeks away...

You know people like us who know too much by the way of reading forums like this, PC websites & magazines are always disturbed in the head coz we know what is coming in the future and then we wait for it...!!!

A normal person doesn't know and has no clue what the current technology is and what technology is coming how soon to replace it... He/She just walks into a store.. looks at a few models and mostly buys the one which he/she likes the most based on looks, price or depending on how the salesman pitched for a particular product.

IGNORANCE IS BLISS...!!!

But Technologically Updated Fools like us follow the developments to the T and mostly we end never buying anything coz we keep waiting for that "Super Elusive Perfect Product"...!! In this case a laptop...!!!

Infact i don't buy anything without first reading countless reviews about it on the internet and magazines....Sometimes i feel its a waste of time.... But i guess in the end we never get burnt coz we know what we are "Buying".....

Power to us...!!!

 

I see, well then my comparison is just for those who consider buying the mots powerful new CULV as opposed to one of the previous powerful ULVs. You're right, won't know about clock for clock battery life until later

 

With the Acer 1410/1810, there had also been the Gateway rebranded EC14/EC18 (known as Packard Bell Dot MU in Europe).

I personally prefer the styling of the Gateway models over the Acer. With the new Acer 1830Ts coming, I wonder if Gateway will release their own rebrand as well?

 

I am now ready. Just installed French Win 7 Professional I got from MSDNAA on my SSD, which means I can now install the Acer supplied Win 7 on the hdd when I sell my 3810t, and move the ssd into the 1830. Now all we need is Monday to arrive...

 

Does anyone know if this will be included in the March 22nd release? The Italian website only mentioned the 13.3"+ models.

 

Can hardly wait till tomorrow 22 March 2010.

I hope Acer announce this tommorow as widely speculated by various websites....

 

The prices of the 13.3" and up timelines are up but no signs of 1830T yet. I wouldn't keep my hopes up :/

 

Where are they? I'd like to see how they compare to the current Timelines to gauge a guess for the 1830T.

 

see the official acer arrandale timeline thread. I say around $600 for the 11.6"

 

do you guys think this will be able to play hulu properly without breaks when connected to the internet wirelessly. Also how will this pc play hd movies, i.e. 1080p.

 

no problem at all.

edit:
i wonder if there is a way to leave Turbo boost on to keep the CPU at 1.8ghz and the GPU at 500mhz while connected to a power brick.

 

is the acer 1830t better than the asus ul20 in terms of performance, battery, etc..

 

Yes. Better batter, Core i5-520UM much better than Core 2 in the UL20, no bluetooth in the UL20, 1830t weighs more than 1lb less.

So hyped for tomorrow, Acer do not disappoint! I expect the 1830t to cost $600. No more.

 

how is the graphics: Intel HM55 graphics, is this new

 

Twice as poweful as the previous gen 4500 graphics. And the HM55 is the chipset, the graphics are "Intel HD graphics".