Acer MXM BIOS Mods and discussion (was: x920G vs. 9600M GT)

For the record, Acer 7720g and 5720g will run an FX 2700m at full clockrates without modification, just a 120w charger. Its a 65 watt card but I believe the 70w fx 3600m is the same.

 

Um... how do you cool it?

 

Your image doesn't seem to be fully compatible, - nvflash reports a "Mismatch at offset 0x00000002" Is this a critical issue or should I try a "force flash" (or something similar) with nvflash?

 

@ lion10

You have to use "nvflash -f -4 -5 -6 vbios.rom"

I think the missmatch is because of the different manufacturer or the version of the vbios.

 

That probably will be me. I wanne just cheer You up that with new acer vbios from 330m, 230m is working in 5930g. I had some issues with voltages but nothing unsolvable and now everything is ok. Then maby You should came back to Your hopes

 

I have a Fujitsu Amilo 1667G (MXM I) with an ATI X700 card.
I've swapped the x700 with a NVIDIA 9300M GS 256M, i get a black screen on the internal monitor. The ebayer i bought it claims that it was for an ACER notebook and that the card is MXM I. Can a Vbios mod fix this?

Regards


EDIT: the card is: NVidia 9300M GS 256MB G98-630-U2 VG.9MG06.001 MXM video VGA card for Acer 6930G

from VG.9MG06.001 it looks like it is sourced from MSI as per: http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/396320-acer-mxm-models-cards.html
in case that helps.

 

You need an SBIOS mod. You can get it here: request download ticket | FTS_BIOSWindowsFlashEXEAMILOA1667GA3667_107c_MXM_1005011.EXE - ifile.it

 

@ darnok44,

Ah yes, thankyou, it was you. I found and re-read your issue on page 191 of MXM Models and Cards, since you mentioned having got fixed.

@ .NetRolller 3D,

Mmm yes me too wondering about the cooling of something like a FX3600M. Though I did find some particular HP dedicated FX3600M heatsinks, and suprisingly they seem 'passive'.
HP 583495-001 Proliant FX3600M MXM PCI-E GDDR Heat Sink | eBay

Might even physically fit that heatsink in an 8920, since they appear quite shallow. (Added - picture of 8920G GPU area), http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=9y2yanaznrk2a04

I think though there would have to be minimum some warm air extraction in the system that utilises these. You really would not want heat accumulating inside you laptop. Hypothetically I could change a 9600M GT to an FX3600; (and the fabrication is the same size). I incease the transistor count from 316 million to 754 million, at the same voltage, and clock speeds. Thus TDP of the FX3600M is going to be greater. (Oh but the 256 bit memory bus, and those 96 shader units on the Quadro. That compared to the 128 bit bus, and the 32 shaders on the 9600 - 'nice'.)

@ "for general info",

With reference to power consumption of heavy duty cards, the problem seems complex to me. Even though it is undeniable that some laptops support and run high wattage cards, I still don't know if it is a good idea. Bumping the power input of a laptop from 90watts to 120watts seems within reason. However like I said I don't know the power ratings and tolerances of the components where the power comes in.

If you look in the service manual of the 8920 it states that the input voltage should be within 19V - 20.5V. Any more either way, and you replace your charger. At 19V you have 90W if all your devices use that much switched on. At 20.5V you could be running 97W, and a bit warmer. If you can run 120W across the same components, yes they will run even warmer. This is where tolerances become important.

There is all likelihood they can run 120W happily. Only if the components preferred range is e.g. up to 110W, then you cause premature ageing. For example a 3V torch bulb will run happily at 3V, if you add another battery in series to 4.5V, it will still run. (I.E. forcing a higher current through it.) Only it will burn brighter, and die sooner.

Really we need blackened87 to make an input at this point. This I think since blackened87 mentioned component replacement, and knowlege of the components in question.

For a final example take the 90W 8920G charger. It has an input current rating of 1.5A. Yet it has a fuse at its front end (inside the black box, where the power comes in) of 3.15A. The fuse blows to protect the components from starting a fire, from a V or A spike. It means the input current could run at 2A doesn't it, (but it would be very hot)? Would you do that though? Therefor would you run 120W across the front end components of your 90W laptop without knowing its tolerances?

 

u6b36ef:
sorry for the late reply.having a lot of work lately...
well normaly increasing the input power of the current does not add stress on the power component's.the stress comes from the power being drained from the same component's by the graphics card.
i will try to make an example with desktop components.manny graphics card's from the same series have the same transistors,but for example some ati radeon's when they are factory stronger models-same core higher clock's have the same power line as the weaker models only one exception that they have cooling plates over the transistors to compensate for the higher power drain.

most transistor's used in this application can handle more power output,factories usually put transistors that are 30-50% stronger than required,like this they eliminate the need for added cooling of the component's because it is a laptop anyway...less heat=good

you can just add cooper cooling plates or fins on the transistors that power the gpu,and replace the capacitors on the same power section so the components can coupe with the increased load.for example if the factory capacitors are 16v 470mf you should put 16v 670mf or 800mf depending on the power supply you are using.

if you leave the factory capacitors you will have increased load on the transistors and will shorten their life span and allso starve the graphic card of electricity on high load applications.and that can lead to driver crashing-throtling and even a circuit burnout on the power section on the card it self.

you can probably use cooling strips used for ram modules on graphics cards,or you can make them your self from a copper plate of minimum 2mm thickness.and also try to bend the plates over the edges and make it like a radiator shape for more thermal disicipation.

conclusion:get yourself a bigger power supply,19v don't use over 20.like i said more watts does not stress component's but more volts does...you just have to deliver more power not current strenght.

i hope i am spelling most of it right because english is not my native language after all

just trace the transistors that power the card.and replace what i said and no problem.

as for the 9920.the mxm slot is shalov.i removed a mxm slot from a broken msi laptop.and it is about 3.5mm taller than the one im acer 9920.if i would replace the slot with this one and desolder the high power resistor and make a wire connection to it by putting it somewhere on the side i could fit any card in the 9920
everithing has a solution you see

 

@ Blackened87,
Absolutely 100%: that is the entire principle.

Adding 'load' to the 'circuit', thus increasing the power draw, accomodated for from an upgraded charger. That's more watts usage, and heating components. Good grief and no we don't say put a higher voltage charger there, because then you increase the current across all components, irrelevant of adding extra 'load'. Thus heating up the components. I used the example of a torch battery in my last post.

Also you have mentioned the circuit that feeds the GPU. Good stuff again. I had only used the 'front end' as an example, but the GPU circuit is equally to play. I hammered out that topic once before, on a notebookreview 5920G upgrade page.

Thanks for your overview. I like the idea of adding cooling to transisitors, if I can think of a way. [I'm gonna have to think about capacitors: and it's very unlikely I'll change any.]
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Ah yes; dissipation, is the correct spelling, but I think we will all have understood your, 'disicipation'. No problems.

I think you got a bit tangled where you said,
" like i said more watts does not stress component's but more volts does...you just have to deliver more power not current strenght"
The current is a rate, i.e. it is electrons passing a point in a given time. Thus if you up the current, you make more heat. (Then from first principle P=VI, so if V is constant and I increases, then P(watts) increases.)
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Anyway .NetRolller 3D's SBIOS fix for the 8920G runs the BIOS screen which was blank, before the fix for 9600M GT. I am looking for an MXM III card which will not need any motherboard hard component modification. The 9700M GT is MXM III, but rated at 45W on notebookcheck. ( I think this too will run perfectly with NetRolller's fix.)
That power statistic is hard to believe though since the 9600M GT is rated at 23W there, and the FX770 is rated at 35W on the nVidia website. The 9700M GT is a G96 clocked up, (+0.04V). It would though allow me the chance to move the 9600M GT into an SBIOS fixed 5920G. ( That is a brilliant upgrade - right on .Netrolller 3D. As I allready said, I found the G96 is lots cooler than the G84, so result all round, including getting 512mb of GDDR3 in the 5920.)
The Acer 8930G ships 9700M GT with a 90W power supply, so should be safe all round, in an 8920G. However if it can run something even close to 45W, it would be good to know for sure what else can safely run. (I'd be inconsolable if I prematurely killed an 8920G.)

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General Info:
Ah yes finally I should mention something, as I've been thinking of power lots recently. I found a recently new free Microsoft app that measures power usage in your laptop. It's called ' Joulemeter'. I have only ever managed to hit up to about 52 watts so far in the 8920G.

P.S. I have heard mention that there might be a non-inverted MXM II GT330M, is that right please anyone?

 

@u6b36ef
well i told you english isn't my native language,im from serbia...and its not like i have a lot of people arround to chat with about tehnical terms in electronics

good luck with your modding,i will be here if you need anything else,anyway i think you will be able to fit almost anything in there but that would require the replacement of transistors and some other components for some heavy duty cards.
even that would not be a problem because you have a different power section on the motherboard for the graphics card,processor and so on.
all you need is some nervs and a smd hot-air station

but for your application i belive only the added cooling will do the trick-20-25w is not a big stress increase on the components as long as you use a quality power charger.

i have a dell charger 20v-220w so i am thinkink what can i do with that thing

 

@u6b36ef: Non-inverted MXM-II GT 330M. It requires SMD soldering to work in an Acer, though.

 

@netrolller3d

m8 the 9600m gt moded vbios for the 9920 you posted earlier still doesent work.
the screen stays black as usual...

 

@ .NetRolller 3D,

Mmm, actually just found a GT330M, which sold one hour ago for £62 on eBay. Was asleep though and missed it. (I hate trying to buy at auctions anyway.) Nvidia Geforce 330M GT MXM Type II Laptop Graphics Card Module 1GB DDR3 VeryRare | eBay

I'm never sure which card it is with the Toshiba A500's. Mostly they seem to be GT230M's which list for, "Toshiba Satellite A500 Video Card LS-5005P Nvidia", (which would be very fine). Really we need to know the chip code.
I saved some of the GT2--M series chip codes:
N10E-GE A2 GTS250M ddr3/5 (MXM A though)
N10P-GS-A2 GT240M
N10P-GE-A2 GT230M
The 512MB versions seem to have only 2 ram chips, so at least that is obvious.

Plus I found these,
Wholesale For ASUS M60J video card GTX240M 1G DDR3&tested+free shipping

This is the right idea though, because of the forty-eight shader processors, and up to 1GB of DDR3. Matched with small fabrication size and low power usage; it's win win.

@ Blackened87,

Maybe too I should have re-mentioned that the Wiki page Mobile PCI Express Module - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia quotes MXM III sockets incl. MXM-III (HE) at 75W. Assuming this is all correct, the MXM III I think would be much less than 75W as the HE-tab is extra power. With the MXM II rated at 35W, I should be fine with a 45W card on MXM III. These Wiki stats do leave lots of speculation for MXM III owners though, init?

It seems the most powerful card option is Toshibas if we have decided to avoid power thirsty vga. Only I ordered an 8930 (same fitting as 8920) MXM III GPU heatsink two days ago. It's the availability of the 256 bit memory bus, and lots of shader pipelines that is pulling me towards MXM III. (Plus the 9700M GT.)

If you mod your 9920, then there is a GTX 280M on MXM III-HE (quoted in the above Wiki link). Personally I was wondering about an FX2700M, to get going, but there are too many unknowns. Like even the core is set diagonally, and the heasink plate for the core isn't.

 

well as it stands,we still don't have a 9600m gt that works on a acer 9920...
so until netroller3d confirms that the vbios is possible to mod i wont be doing any soldering
as he quoted a few pages back the 200 series is not yet possible to mod.
and as it turns out the 9xxx series is still out of reach also

 

@blackened87: Did you install both the SBIOS and VBIOS mods? Unlike the 5920G, both are required on the 9920G.

@u6b36ef: The following chip codes are known for A500 Nvidia cards:
Only the first 4 characters matter. The mapping is as follows:
N10M: GeForce G 210M
N10P: GeForce GT 230M
N11M: GeForce 310M
N11P: GeForce GT 330M

The only difference between N10P and N11P is that N11P is clocked higher.

 

Can anyone please help me ?

I almost giving totally up ...

I have an Acer 5520g an upgraded it with 9600M GS (512 MB DDR-2).

I had the same issue with the MXM-Structure failure message and modded at first the BIOS of the card.
Next step was to find a suitable driver cos the newer nVidia ones did not work for me. So I tried 257.15 Version, successfully.

But I still had problems with not fully working card meaning, it ran only on nearly half speed in 'low power 3D'.

I changed the amount of performance tables in the BIOS of the card, forced RivaTuner to run card only in 'performance 3D mode' and same with the nVidia driver. Everything failed ...

The last thing I tried was the modded BIOS for my 5520g postet in this forum.
This BIOS is really great. It even completeley removed the MXM-Structure Message BUT, I still got this performance issue.


Does anyone else has a suggestion what else I could try to gain full performance of my 9600M-GS ?

 

@ goodbuy

You have to look on the first page and see if there is an SBIOS fix for your laptop that sorts it out. I have a G96 core which did the same aswell in a particular laptop until .NetRolller 3D brought out the fix.

Otherwise, a vBIOS mod is in part 5 on the following page.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/316079-nw-upgrade-c90s-9600m-gt-512mb-ddr3-fixed.html
It is commonly referred to across the web as 'Nightwalker's fix'. This was first brought to my attention here by Triturbo, on page 9 in this thread you have just posted on. Also there are explanations again on this thread, of how to do it between pages 27 - 33. Why not have a read?

@ NetRolller 3D,

I found my photo of the 9920 8600M GT in the 5920. I know it was a long time ago you asked, and you had others upload pictures. Only just in case, I added it here: (the one I thought looked cartoony). 9920 8600M GT in 5920.JPG

 

Just upgraded the bios on my acer 6920g

I can buy a 9600gt ddr3 for 40 euro(arround 50 dollar). Only it's an HP. Does the unlocked bios solve all the issues with non acer mxm2 ? (does a hp vbios work on my acer?)

Next is it worth it upgrading from a 9500m gs?
Ecu upgrading: Is it worth it to upgrade the t8300(2x2.4ghz) Those t9300 - T9500 run 100-120 euros....

 

Thanks alot ! It worked !

I mean the vBIOS mod. Well, let me tell you that I've already done that step but somehow THIS time it worked !

.. and I mentioned it already in my former post, that I modded the SBIOS as one of my first steps but the SBIOS couldn't help much. It just removed the 'mxm structure failure' message.



Well, but now I've got another problem.
I somehow was expecting to be able to overclock this little card but I realised the overclocking is somehow locked.

A search through the internet didn't bring me any suitable information on how to solve that one now.

I tried different software overclocking tools like (of course) 'RivaTuner', MSI Afterburner, Zotac - Firestorm, the nVidia Tool .. and so on ...

Everytime I tried to set a new clock, it was set back to default values.

Is there maybe another trick or known possibility to mod the card BIOS to unlock the overclocking capabilities ?

Thanks in advance .. !

 

@ goodbuy,

I don't know. I don't overclock. You could use nVidia nTune for a temporary do. It reverts back to standard clock after re-boot.

My guess is use the standard 9600M GS vBIOS. Open it with NiBiTor. Set the highest clock to the speed you want (using the first tab - clockrates). If you are lucky, that would translate across to the 'Performance Table Entries' that NightWalker refers to. Then re-do NightWalker's technique.

If you have lost your original vBIOS, I uploaded one for the 9600M GS DDR2 512MB. It on page 60; #597 (permalink); second paragragh. To assure anyone, this is the GPU-Z pic of it: http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=vlc1pm88w18bwvs The card is a VG.9PG0Y.004

@ greddymx5,

Yes yes yes, go ahead, HP on Acer. Buy the 9600M GT and don't look back. Performance, temps, everything is better.

@ blackened87

I received an MXM III heatsink for the 8920. The temptation to use a higher wattage card like a big Quadro or Geforce, is excruciating.

 

And again I thank you alot ! - I tried the vBIOS on page 60 and forced the flash on my card.
My first set values 550/1200/466 (compared to stock clocks: 430/1075/400) were stable and fully functioning without any glitches and similar graphical issues.

But unfortunately still no software overclock was possible. - Same thing: clocks reset themselves after confirming.

Anyways I prepared some more versions with different clocks of this BIOS and flashed one after another followed by some 3D application tests.

Currently my card is running @ 725/1800/550 which are really great values I think compared to stock clocks ! - Btw the vcore ist set to 1.05v via the BIOS.

So once again, thank you very much ! You helped me alot !

... and I declare my matter as solved !

 

Could you please post the bios file? I will do the upgrade from DOS blindly, since the x700 does not display anything, but the OS underneath boots.
Regards

I've tried on the command prompt to run it with the -a flag but i get that the ROM file size is incorect.

 

@ u6b36ef:
i'm glad for you,let us know how it goes.

with me still no luck getting the 9920 to work with 9600m gt

i am loosing my temper.and have a urge to brick the damn thing.not by flashing-but by actually throwing a brick at it

maybe i will try again tonight.i have a feeling the sbios flash is giving me trouble-not actually flashing the bios...

dunno i will try again and see how it turns out

 

Ok i borrowed a working x700 card and finally was able to flash the SBIOS.
After reboot and by installing the Nvidia card i get a white screen at boot. I can see the HDD working and probably the operating system is booting, but nothing more. Any thoughts?

 

Hi guys,

I bought an acer 9920g for a very cheap price two weeks ago, and I discovered yesterday what justifies this price : the well known "black-screen" syndrom...

In order to save my poor laptop, I've made some cooking, and managed to "ressurect" the beast... I benefit for this additional time to install the .NetRolller 3D modded sbios (many thanks to him for his hard work, by the way) and it worked like a charm.

For now on, I would like to change this crappy 8600mgt card by a better choice such as 9600m gt, I found one at a very low price (coming from an 6930g laptop), and before buying, I have two questions to expose to your clever minds :

1) Does it matter or not for the 9600mgt vbios if it is a ddr2 or ddr3 version (the seller can't tell me which kind of model it is. One more time, All I know is that it comes from a 6930g, and that it was tested ok (so he said.... hehe).

2) How to find a way to gently remove those damned thermal pads (see how i like them? héhé) from the metal thing that covered the 8600gm Vram, without breaking anything (not that I don't feel like doing it, but...) ? I would like to keep my ressurected old video card in case of, and give my newer an appropriate receptacle?

By the way, are these thermal pads really necessary? (this makes three questions, in fact...)

Many thanks for your kind answers!

Ps : One more thing : do you think that replacing the original T7300 by a T9500 would change drastically things regarding as performances and temperature? Thanks

 

I'd prefer the ddr3 cos of higher bandwidth. But nevertheless, ddr2 are not bad at all on this type of card.
But if it's possible, try to get one with ddr3.

I removed mine with a simple blow drier.
But isn't this 'metal thing' a simple aluminium cover to spread the heat from the vram ?

Well thermal pads replace themal paste. From what I experienced, thermal pads can stand a higher temperature then the most of the thermal pastes I used.
And to answer your question, it wouldn't be bad to have them in combination with this 'metal thing' cos the lower the temperature, the more you prolong the life of your card or the higher 'clock' you can gain if you're a bit into overclocking.

[/QUOTE]
It would rise the system speed, no question about it. If you can get your hands on a cheap one, why not ?
I'd love to do so, cos I only have an AMD Turion x2 with 2x 2200 MHz cranked up to 2500 MHz. It's now comparable to an T7300 at stock clocks.
My CPU is now slowing down the whole system capabilities with my high clocked 9600M GS.

 

Ok, thanks for the advice! Fingers crossed for the .Netroller 3D Vbios compatibility with this.

Not really, it also serves to maintain and lock the vpu heatspreader (another part of the truth, is that, as a non-native, poor english writer, I don't have the word for it...) (...in fact, I have some words to qualify "this", but these can't be printed here, for the sake of politeness)

...But it's a hard thing to clean, and I'm not talking about finding replacement fot these! héhé. Concerning overclocking, for the time being, I've done enough CPU overclocking and overheating by using the "oven" trick... Overwise, totally agree with you!

Nice! I recently had to make a lot of scientific calculation (I'm doing research for a job), so the more the better (? Wonder if it's gramatically OK...)!

Hehe, will tell you... I ve got an nice opportunity for 60 euros, so maybe, I'll have a try soon! Anyway, thanks for your precious advice, and I wish you high clock rates for your future overclocking!

 

Hello guys, had a one small problem. Recently o got to an graphic card Nvidia GT 130M 512MB DDR3 from MSI GX633. Allready own and aspire 5920G with 8600M GS. And I am still thinking about upgrading. Now I know that the 9600M GT and the GT 130M are the same cards only differs in names. I was reading it on the internet, and a lot of people told me that it is the same card. Now I found this threat that 9600M GT can work on aspire 5920G. And im am going to try that modiffied bios. Now i need to help to prepare the crissis disk for bios recovery if needed. But i have never did it. Can you help me. Can you tell me the exact steps please. A would be thankfull If a could flash it. Now there is another problem. I use moddified bios from this forum.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/480992-acer-laptop-phoenix-bios-bios-mod-request-60.html
The bios works well. But I tryed to flash it back to original 1.3913 acer bios on another 5920G and the flashing froze.

Now I am worried If a flash it from moddified the bios on this threat It can be the same. Thats why I need to be sure I have a proper crissis disk prepared in case.
Help me please guys. I will be very thankfull

 

Hi Boys and Girls, My 9920g just gave up the ghost after baking it over 50 time i accidently fried the GPU by leaving the battery in, so ive looked through the previous post's (All of them) and im fairly compitent, but i could do with a brief step by step guide on how to fix my 9920g, what card to get ETC

 

I confirm that it does work with the 7520G! Finally I found time (and guts) to flash the BIOS and the 30 s delay at boot time is gone! Thank you very much again! But it didn't solve the problem with limited functionality of the 9600M GT - it still doesn't work... I guess the problem could be with my drivers, they're old version 190.62 (the guy who I bought the card from >2 yrs ago told me it's better not to update the drivers). I tried installing the newest drivers ver. 295.73 but it refuses to be installed.

NVIDIA says I should get drivers from Acer, but of course they're not updated since 2009 (and I guess they wouldn't support the 9600M GT anyway):
"The GeForce M series and GeForce Go series notebook GPUs use drivers that have been customized by the notebook manufacturers to support hot key functions, power management functions, lid close and suspend/resume behavior. NVIDIA has worked with some notebook manufacturers to provide notebook-specific driver updates, however, most notebook driver updates must come from the notebook manufacturer."

And also they say that "Additionally, the desktop GeForce graphics drivers will not install on Geforce M series and Quadro M series notebook GPU's."

Is there a version of drivers that fully supports the 9600M GT on a 7520G?

BTW, to all 5520G owners, which driver version do you use with the 9600M GT?

 

HI .netroller 3d , im wondering if you could possibly help.

I have an acer 9920 and a 9600m gt card , i flashed the acer with the sbios on the first page of this thread and also flashed the card with the vbios you recommended also on the first page of the thread .

Unfortunately i still only have display output to an external monitor , the laptops own lcd is not displaying anything , although it does flash up when the laptop is powered up so i am sure there is no problem with the laptops lcd.

is there anything i may have done wrong , or anything i can do to get the internal display to work with the 9600m gt .

Thanks in advance .

 

@b1uedr4gon: Check with a flashlight if the internal LCD is still being driven by the card after the flash-up - that would indicate a dead inverter.

@zarkob: Use the 295.73 Verde drivers, and edit nvac.inf to remove the subsys ID from one of the entries for device ID 0x0649 (9600M GT). This should let you install.

 

Hi .NetRoller , the lcd is definately not showing an image , even with checking it with a flashlight i cannot see an image on the screen , im pretty sure the lcd itself is ok because it was fine before the old card died.

any other ideas , anything i can dump to make it easier ?

Thanks for all the help .

*EDIT : I forgot to say that before i flashed the sbios and vbios with the ones you recommended i had the mxm error that halt's posting for 30 secs , but after flashing that has gone . just need to get this lcd to display ! .

 

That didn't work, any thoughts?

Is there any chance that a Vbios mode is required?

 

That's it! Works perfectly!!! .NetRolller 3D, you truly are the notebook deity!! Köszönöm szépen!!!

 

Guys,

And especially .Netroller 3D ;-)

I ve a problem.
The 8600m GT inn my 5920 died and didn't revive after baking. So now i was thinking about buying a 9600m GT from a guy.
But first i read up on teh compatibility.
And was I happy to read that you have a modded bios that makes the 5920g compatible with the 9600m GT.

However, winphlash didnt work. Probably because I used it on windows 7 64 bit. So then i tried to use phlash16.exe in dos mode. (the phlash16.exe can from the Acer support website itself.)

After it opens the bios utility (in dos mode of course) it gives a message that it cannot open the bios file . (the .wpa file I downloaded form here).
accompied by a buzz and 3 beeps.

Anyone knows what to do?

 

I posted a while ago a version of WinPhlash for x64.

 

Hi guys,
I need your help and especially to .NetRoller 3D ;-))

OK, I have the same notebook with you (5720ZG...ICL50.)
CPU :T2310 up to T7700
GPU :GF 8400m GS up to GF 9600M GT 512Mb GDDR3 (VG.9PG0Y.005)
BIOS installed : ACER BIOS V1.45 11/10/2008
OS : WIN VISTA SP2 32b
GPU DRIVER installed : nVidia VERDE 295.73 notebook
RAM installed : 4Mb (just 3 recognized but it's normaly with this OS installed)

My problem, it's the 9600M GT are not recognized and they're not running...
Not great this affair :-( (just running in mode VGA standard)

I sought to solve my problem on the Net and I fell on your forum… After having consulted many posts, I conclude that:

1/ I must modify my Bios with yours " v1.45 black edition v4.0"
2/ Maybe it's required to change my OS for Win 7 home or Pro into version 64bits

Normally, all should function correctly thereafter!?!
Do you confirm my deduction? If not, can you say to me how to solve this problem.
I also profit to congratulate you and draw you my hat, following the work which you achieved on this subject.

Thanking you for all your help which you will be able to carry me.

 

Ram memory installed it's 4Gb, not 4Mb.... ;-)
I must go to lay down me, it is the hour… lol

 

@ .Netrolller 3D,

I remember you saying over on 9920 GPU options (page 11) about your having set power limits, for the 9920 MXM socket. ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/475196-9920g-gpu-options-11.html) Do you know the power limits (from the SBIOS,) for the 8920 please? Knowing this might help me make choice for a GPU card.

@Obiwantit,

Not meaning to state the obvious, but have you installed the drivers for the 9600M GT.

(.NetRolller 3D has flashed presumably with the 'black edition' SBIOS you are thinking of using. Therefor you a safe that the BIOS is fully tested. However .NetRolller does say on the front page, " The Aspire 5720G (ICL50) BIOS is NOT required for 9600M GT upgrades". Sorry though because I have not followed the 5720 story closely. [I guess I should probably not have mentioned anything. Only suggesting drivers seemed a good idea, since you have 'standard VGA adapter' showing.] All being well a flash will go OK, if you decide to. If it goes wrong you're gonna need the recovery flash. I am sure I saw somewhere in this thread discussion about the 5720 BIOS. Maybe see what there is if you are cautious.)

 

@ u6b36ef,

Hi,

Yes, i have install the last nVidia Verde driver, that's the 295.73 notebook.
But the VGA (9600M GT) don't working and not recognized in the manager of peripherals...

 

You may need to mod the driver's inf file to get the driver to install.

Also, bad news for those wishing to try Windows 8: the new OS will no longer accept a modded inf; WHQL certification (not just tamper-resistant signing, like in Vista, but full WHQL) is now mandatory. Beta drivers are also probably blocked.

 

@Obiwantiti: I had problem with 295.73 Verde drivers not recognizing my 9600M GT but .NetRolller 3D told me to "edit nvac.inf to remove the subsys ID from one of the entries for device ID 0x0649 (9600M GT)", and it worked. But I guess you have a different problem since you say you managed to install the drivers but they just don't work as they should?

 

Hi guys,
In first thank you for your assistance, it's super sympatic!!

There is the new one… It functions normally!!
So that it can function, I installed a pilot other than the verde 295.73…
for the moment.

I explain you how I proceeded.

At the beginning, I had a GF 8400M GS installed of origin like us all for this model.
With the wire of time and updates Nvidia which were realizable, until with this famous driver Verde 295.73 and the PhysX9.12.0209...since the 02/22/2012 (I will add photographs of screen thereafter).
To install the GF 9600M GT, I removed the 8400 (normal).
I was to have a large cerebral tiredness…
(since by doing it one removes the drivers automatically,and that I know it!! )

Therefore, after installation and startup… I wanted reinstalled the 2 preceding drivers.
But on the panel of Nvidia installation, this message appeared:
-the program of Nvidia installation cannot continue.
-This grafic driver did not find of compatible material grafic.
(I think that you had also the same one…)
Inducing inevitably with a mode grafic Card VGA standard...
(That with Driver 118.00 of VGA grafic card)

Then after having taken the bull by the horns… and especially after having to try to install many LV2go drivers, without much success.

I went to make a turn on the site Acer support…and with a little reflexion, but especially after a little cerebral rest.
I found how circumvented the problem temporarily and to make so that this blasted grafic card is functional!!

I tried to install the drivers Acer originals of these various models: 5720ZG - 7720ZG / 6930ZG - 7730ZG - 8730ZG
Therefore, the driver of the 6930ZG (7.15.11.76 20) it is proven functional…and that of the 7730ZG (7.15.11.74 90) it is proven him also functional.
I thus chose to install that of the 6930ZG (176.20) this one being most recent.

With the result that she is finally recognized and functions… I benefitted from it to make a small test 3Dmark06, with a score for the moment of 2793…
I know you will say to me that it's little or can better do and it's true.

But I remind to you that I am under Vista (which are not the lightning of war and voracious in resources) and in more in 32bits… with a " old man diver" … lol

The next stage will be to pass under Win 7 Pro but too in 64b…Then to make this famous modification of file inf. that you to indicate to me...

I would hold you informed of the continuation of the events and will add the capture of screen (photographs)… But there, I died of tiredness and I will lie down from this step.

 

Some data for information:

Graphics card 1
General information
Name of the GPU NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
Code name of the GPU G96
Intricacy of engraving of the GPU 65 Nm
Quantity of video memory 512 Mo
Width of bus GPU 128 bits
DirectX version 11.0 GPU
monitoring Core clock 275 MHz
Shaders clock 550 MHz
Memory clock 300 MHz
Chart PCI/AGP
Peripheral bus//Function 1/0/0
Name of the salesman nVidia Corporation (0x10DE)
Name of the peripheral G96 [GeForce 9600M GT] (0x10DE, 0x0649) Standard Posting (0x03)
Sub-type Posting (0x00)
Identifier of revision 0xA1

Mother Board
SMBios version 2.4 Acer Nettiling V1.45
Bios: Acer V1.45 11/10/2008 cuts: 1024Kb
Chipset Northbridge: Intel PM965 Southbridge: Intel 82801HBM (ICH8-ME) Processor Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo
T7700 Merom Socket P (478) (@65 Nm) 2400 MHz (L1I: 2 X 32 KB, L1D: 2 X 32 KB, L2: 4096 KB)
Memory
Total physical memory: 4096 Mo, Type: DDR2, @MHz, 5.0-5-5-15--1T
DDR2 Corsair VS2GSDS667D2 2048 Mo PC2-5300 (333 MHz)
DDR2 Corsair VS2GSDS667D2 2048 Mo PC2-5300 (333 MHz)
Graphics card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M WP (G96, 512 Mo)

Name of the driver NVIDIA GeForce 9600M WP
name of the manufacturer NVIDIA
Version 7.15.11.76 20 Date 7-19-2008
File inf oem105.inf
Type display
Material identifier NCV \ VEN_10DE& DEV_0649& SUBSYS_056710DE& REV_A1
Driver installed OK
Problem on the driver NONE
Row report
Row report D2000000-D2FFFFFF
Row report C0000000-CFFFFFFF
Row report D0000000-D1FFFFFF
Row report 000A0000-000BFFFF
Row Ports i/o
Row Ports i/o 5000-507F
Row Ports i/o 03B0-03BB
Row Ports i/o 03C0-03DF

Test temperatures: Minimal / Maximum (°C)

Mother Board (TZ1) 45 / 55
Processor 39 / 60
HDD 36 / 44
TMPIN0 45 / 50
GPU 47 / 53

That's all for today and it's already not badly, not!?!
Tell me your opinions and conclusions.

 

@ Obiwantit,

With quote,
"test 3Dmark06, with a score for the moment of 2793…", and "monitoring Core clock 275 MHz", you have throttling.

You'll might have to look to NetRolller 3D to find out why, or use Nightwalkers fix. Nightwalkers fix got a mention again by me recently. Have a look back (just a few pages at my posts), for links to Nightwalkers thread, and info on where it is in this thread.

You will see much higher gaming scores when it's fixed. Good luck.

 

@ u6b36ef:
Thank you, you confirm my first deduction…
Remains to be seen if that will change with the modification of the file nvac.inf and driver 295.73 installed!??!
Following the next episode…

 

Help!!!!!!

Just purchased a graphics card for my Acer 8920g put when i turn it on the power and the lights come only. (also the blue bluetooth light is on) tried with hdmi but no joy

what steps i have taken:-

replaced my 9500m gs 512 with 9600m gt mxm II 1gb
flashed new bios update from first page

any suggestions?

 

@ Stephenl9,

I think no-one tested 'and reported' results for .NetRolller 3D's latest (I think V2) 8920 system BIOS. (I read this thread carefully and I have not seen it.) A newer 8920 BIOS would have been good for me, but I was nervous about trying it. The first of .NetRolller 3D's releases for the 8920 works so I kept that one. (I was first to have that working.)

It sounds like your system is not POST-ing. I'd go back step by step to find the fault.

1. Try you old card. (I'm sure I have read elswhere that no POST can be a symptom of a faulty card, as well as other faulty card symptoms. Thus rule out fault with the 9600M GT.)
2. If that doesn't work, make a recovery back to the original system BIOS.
After all, the 8920 runs the 9600M GT with the Acer issue BIOS. We do however miss the seeing the BIOS information on the internal LCD monitor. (The BIOS POST-ing can be seen on an external monitor incidentally.)

All is fine when Windows starts loading, with a 9600M GT and the original Acer system BIOS. Start with that info in mind.