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    Acer MXM Models and Cards

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by TehSuigi, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. TehSuigi

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    So, you've probably heard it told to you time and time and time again, that there is no way to upgrade a dedicated GPU on a notebook.
    But as an Acer owner, you may very well be among the lucky few who CAN upgrade their GPU, since Acer used the MXM standard on its notebooks for quite a few models - unfortunately, it seems that as of mid-2010, they've returned to embedded the discrete GPU into the mainboard, effectively cutting off the MXM standard.
    (For a primer on what MXM is, go have a look at the best resource online for MXM.)

    EDIT: But if your system came with any Intel GMA, it cannot be upgraded. NO EXCEPTIONS.

    This topic will list which notebooks are CONFIRMED to be MXM-capable, as well as what slot they have, and what cards they were originally sold with (consider those safe upgrades). Any successful new-card upgrades will be linked to alongside the model.
    A later post will document all the MXM cards that Acer has issued - although it's possible to use cards from other vendors, it's safest and more likely to be compatible if you stick with an Acer issue.

    EDIT: That being said, MXM-Upgrade.com is willing to provide a money-back guarantee on their cards if it proves to be incompatible with your machine. Hit them up here!

    LAST UPDATE: April 26th, 2017
    Change-log:
    Aspire 5720G with HD 3470 (added by downloads)
    -Aspire 5920G with GT 240M (added by downloads)
    -Aspire 8935G with HD 6770M (added by downloads)
    -Aspire 5930G with GT 240M (added by downloads)
    -Aspire 5920G with a romless Toshiba GT 330M (added by downloads)
    -TravelMate 6593G with 9600M GT confirmed (added by downloads)
    -TravelMate 5730G with HD4650 (added by downloads)
    -Aspire 7520G with 9650M GT confirmed working (added by downloads)
    -Aspire 6935G with HD4670 confirmed (added by downloads)
    -Extensa 5620G with HD4650 confirmed. (added by downloads)
    -Aspire 5920G confirmed to be working with 9600M GT with a BIOS mod. (added by downloads)
    -IT WORKS! .NetRolller 3D's brilliant scheme to fix the x920G/9600M GT compatibility issue had its first successful trial - lizzarddos was the brave soul. Have a gander, and be in awe.

    Note: Due to new data, the validity of prior research has been called into question. Italicized models have not been confirmed with an Acer service guide, nor have they ever been upgraded. Please consider them as possibly wrong until further notice.

    Aspire 4520G - MXM-II, 8400M G, 8400M GS, Upgrade to 8600M GS Upgrade to 8600M GT
    Aspire 4710G - MXM-II, HD 2400XT, Upgrade to 8600M GT
    Aspire 4720G - MXM-II, 8400M G
    Aspire 4920G - MXM-II, HD 2400XT, Upgrade to HD 3650
    Aspire 5520G - MXM-II, 8400M G, 8400M GS, 8600M GS, 9300M G, Upgrade to 8600M GT, Upgrade to 9650M GT
    Aspire 5530G - MXM-II, HD 3470, HD 3650, Upgrade to 9600M GT
    Aspire 5710G - MXM-II, Upgrade to HD 3650
    Aspire 5720G - MXM-II, 8400M GS, 5720ZG Upgrade to HD 2600, Upgrade to 9500M GS, Upgrade to HD 3650, Upgrade to 9650M GT, Upgrade to 9600M GT, HD 3470
    Aspire 5920G - MXM-II, 8600M GS, 8600M GT, 9500M GS, HD 3470 Upgrade to HD 3650, Upgrade to HD 4650 (Second), Downgrade to X1700, Upgrade to HD 4670, Upgrade to 9600M GT, GT 240M 1 GB
    Upgrade to 9600M GT, GT 330M (Toshiba romless)
    Aspire 5930G - MXM-II, 9300M GS, 9600M GT, GT 240M 1GB
    Aspire 6530G - MXM-II, HD 3470, HD 3650, HD 4570, HD 4650, Failed Upgrade to 9600M GT
    Aspire 6920G - MXM-II, 9500M GS, HD 3650, Upgrades to 9600M GT: Partial Success, Full Success with modded BIOS, Upgrade to 9600M GS, Upgrade to HD 4650, Upgrade to HD 4670
    Aspire 6930G - MXM-II, 9300M GS, 9600M GS, 9600M GT, HD 4650, Upgrade to 8600M GT
    Aspire 6935G - MXM-II, 9600M GT, Upgrade to HD 4650, HD4670
    Aspire 7520G - MXM-II, 8400M G, 8600M GS, Upgrade to 8600M GT, Upgrade to HD 3650, Upgrade to HD 2400 XT, Upgrade to HD 3470, Upgrade to 9650M GT, Failed Upgrade to HD 2600
    Aspire 7720G - MXM-II, 8400M GS, 9300M G, 9300M GS, 9500M GS, Upgrade to 9600M GT, Upgrade to 9650M GT, Upgrade to HD 3470 (7720ZG)
    Aspire 7730G - MXM-II, 9300M GS, 9600M GT
    Aspire 8530G - MXM-II, HD 3470, HD 3650
    Aspire 8730G - MXM-II, 9300M GS, 9600M GT
    Aspire 9920G - MXM-II, 8600M GT
    Extensa 4630G - MXM-I(II?), 9300M GS
    Extensa 5420G - MXM-II, HD 2400XT
    Extensa 5610G - MXM-II, X2500, HD 2300
    Extensa 5620G - MXM-II, X2500, HD 2400XT, HD4650
    Extensa 5630G - MXM-II, HD 3470, 9300M GS
    Extensa 7620G - MXM-II, HD 2400XT
    TravelMate 4730G - MXM-II, 9300M GS
    TravelMate 5520G - MXM-II, X2500, HD 2400XT, HD 2600
    TravelMate 5530G - MXM-II, HD 3470, Upgrade to HD 3650
    TravelMate 5710G - MXM-II, X2500, HD 2300
    TravelMate 5720G - MXM-II, HD 2400XT, X2500, HD 2600 Failed Upgrade to 8400M GS
    TravelMate 5730G - MXM-II, HD 3470, 9300M GS, HD4650
    TravelMate 6593G - MXM-II, HD 3470, 9600M GT
    TravelMate 7520G - MXM-II, HD 2400XT, HD 2600
    TravelMate 7530G - MXM-II, HD 3470
    TravelMate 7720G - MXM-II, 8400M GS, HD 2400XT, X2500, HD 2600, Upgrade to 8600M GT, Failed Upgrade to HD 4650
    TravelMate 7730G - MXM-II, 9300M GS, HD 3470, 9600M GT

    Aspire 8920G - MXM-III, 9500M GS, HD 3650, 9650M GS, Upgrade to 9600M GT (Partial Success), Upgrade to 9600M GS
    Aspire 8930G - MXM-III, 9600M GS, 9600M GT, 9700M GT, Upgrade to 9650M GT

    Aspire 5739G - MXM-A, HD 4570, GT 130M, GT 240M, Upgrade to HD 4650, Upgrade to HD 4670
    Aspire 5935G - MXM-A, HD 4570, GT 130M, Upgrade to HD 4670, Upgrade to GT 240M, Upgrade to GTS 250M
    Aspire 5940G - MXM-A, HD 4570, GT 130M
    Aspire 7735G - MXM-A (verified with photo), HD 4570, Upgrade to GT 130M
    Aspire 7738G - MXM-A, GT 130M, GT 240M, Upgrade to HD 4670
    Aspire 8735G* - MXM-A, GT 240M
    Aspire 8935G* - MXM-A, HD 4650, HD 4670, GT 130M, Upgrade to GTS 250M, HD6770M
    Aspire 8940G* - MXM-A, GT 240M, GTS 250M

    *Although there appears to be room in the chassis and motherboard for an MXM-B board, the heatsink design is not able to cover the MXM-B's memory chip placement.

    Aspire <strike>4935G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>4937G</strike> - Posted here, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>5536G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>5738G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>5741G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>5745G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>5942G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>5943G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.
    Aspire <strike>8942G</strike> - See here, confirmed by service guide.
    Aspire <strike>8943G</strike> - Checked service guide, GPU is embedded in motherboard.

    DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any damages to your notebook's functionality by using the information provided here. Proceed at your own risk.
     
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  2. TehSuigi

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    ACER-RELEASED MXM CARDS

    I've put the code-names of each card in brackets so you can decipher Acer's cryptic part descriptions on places like AcerParts.com to get the card you want.
    EDIT March 2010: Added some part numbers in square brackets for certain cards to prevent ordering the wrong one.

    For a brief overview, here are the different types of cards (courtesy of MXM-Upgrade.com):
    [​IMG]
    From left to right: MXM-I, MXM-II, MXM-III, MXM-HE, and MXM-IV (with extra power tab cut off). Smaller cards can fit into larger slots, but not vice-versa.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    These are the new MXM 3.0 standards: MXM-A on the left, and MXM-B on the right. These are completely incompatible with the above cards and slots.

    Part numbers are in square brackets. Part numbers with a Y as the last digit of the second set of numbers are sourced from Yuan, those with an H are sourced from Foxconn, while those with a 6 are sourced from MSI. Not sure if that impacts compatibility, though.

    MXM-I
    GeForce 8400M G 128MB DDR2 (NB8M-SE)
    GeForce 8400M GS 256MB DDR2 (NB8M-GS)
    GeForce 9300M G 256MB DDR2 (NB9M-GE1)
    GeForce 9300M GS 256MB DDR2 (NB9M-GS) [VG.9MG06.001] [VG.9MG06.002] [VG.9MG0Y.001]
    GeForce 9300M GS 512MB DDR2 (NB9M-GS) [VG.9MG06.003] [VG.9MG0Y.002]

    MXM-II
    GeForce 8600M GS 256MB DDR2 (NB8P-SE)
    GeForce 8600M GS 512MB DDR2 (NB8P-SE)
    GeForce 8600M GT 256MB DDR2 (NB8P-GS)
    GeForce 8600M GT 512MB DDR2 (NB8P-GS)
    GeForce 9500M GS 512MB DDR2 (NB9P-GE1/8PGSH)
    GeForce 9600M GS 256MB GDDR3 (NB9P-GE2) [VG.9PG06.007]
    GeForce 9600M GS 512MB DDR2 (NB9P-GE2) [VG.9PG06.003] [VG.9PG0Y.004]
    GeForce 9600M GT 512MB GDDR3 (NB9P-GS) [VG.9PG06.002] [VG.9PG06.006] [VG.9PG06.008] [VG.9PG0Y.005] [VG.9PG0Y.006]
    GeForce 9600M GT 1GB DDR2 (NB9P-GS) [VG.9PG06.009] [VG.9PG0Y.007]
    Radeon X2500 256MB DDR2 (M66)
    Radeon HD 2300 128MB DDR2 (M71)
    Radeon HD 2300 256MB DDR2 (M71)
    Radeon HD 2400XT 128MB DDR2 (M74)
    Radeon HD 2600 512MB DDR2 (M76)
    Radeon HD 3470 256MB DDR2 (M82-XT)
    Radeon HD 3470 512MB DDR2 (M82-XT)
    Radeon HD 3650 256MB GDDR3 (M86)
    Radeon HD 3650 512MB DDR2 (M86)
    Radeon HD 3650 1GB DDR2 (M86)
    Radeon HD 4570 512MB DDR2 (M92-XT)
    Radeon HD 4650 1GB DDR2 (M96) [VG.M9606.005] [VG.M9606.006]

    MXM-III
    GeForce 9650M GS 512MB GDDR3 (8ESEH)
    GeForce 9700M GT 512MB GDDR3 (NB9P-GE/9EGEH))

    MXM-A
    GeForce GT 130M 1GB DDR2 (N10P-GE1)
    GeForce GT 240M 1GB DDR3 (N10P-GS)
    GeForce GTS 250M 1GB DDR3 (N10E-GE)
    Radeon HD 4530 512MB DDR2 (M92)
    Radeon HD 4570 512MB DDR2 (M92-XT)
    Radeon HD 4650 1GB DDR2 (M96) [VG.M9606.003] [VG.M960H.001]
    Radeon HD 4670 1GB GDDR3 (M96-XT) [VG.M9606.004]

    Unknown
    GeForce G 105M 512MB DDR2? MXM-A/MXM-II? (N10M-GE1)


    OTHER MXM CARDS
    These have shown to be compatible with Acer machines. Consider them riskier, but still doable, with MXM-Upgrade.com a step up in compatibility.

    MXM-Upgrade.com Cards
    Radeon HD 4570 512MB DDR2 MXM-II
    Radeon HD 4670 1GB DDR2 MXM-II (replaces their previous HD 4650 offering)
    GeForce GTS 250M 1GB DDR3 MXM-A

    GeForce 9650M GT 1GB DDR2 MXM-II from ASUS (as shown in above post, this seems to be accepted easily by Acer machines)
    Radeon HD 4670 512MB GDDR3 MXM-II from MSI ( Failed 6930G Upgrade) ( Successful 5920G Upgrade)
    Radeon HD 5650 1GB GDDR3 MXM-A from somewhere (see here and here)

    For more crazy ideas, check out kisetsu17's post here or niffcreature's here, but note that these are well out of the realm of tried-and-tested.

    DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any damages to your notebook's functionality by using the information provided here. Proceed at your own risk.
     
  3. TeeJay 44

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    A lot of work went into this TehSuigi.

    +1 for your Acer dedication and help here.
     
  4. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    Good job Tehsuigi!!
    This is a marvelous information.
     
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    Excellent Job TehSuigi and very helpful and informative
    Thanks mate
    +1 rep from me too
     
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    useful Info there ! Nice!
     
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    Very nice job man, much appreciated.
     
  8. TehSuigi

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    Interesting find - it turns out that the same store that has the Radeon HD 4650 MXM-II available also has a GeForce GT 130M 1GB DDR2 card - just not sure if it's MXM-II or MXM-A.
     
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    My 5520g came with a 9300m G 256mb.
     
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    Thanks! That actually makes sense, since the 9300M G is just a minor core revision of the 8400M GS.
     
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    Arghh I used to own an Aspire 4520G I got a 1 for 1 exchange for a Aspire 4530 ...
    Seems like a downgrade now.
     
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    Yeah they likely just phased out the old cards. I think my machine is one of the last of the 5520g series made.
     
  13. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    How likely is it that two laptops which look alike actually have similar innards? I looked into the Extensa 5620G, and it looked a lot like my 4630G.. (yeah, TehSuigi, I'm the guy with a problem back then ;p )

    Well then, how likely is it that they have the same MXM setup? The only difference I think is that the 5620G is a 15.4" and the 4630G is a 14.1", but as I've read MXM-II cards are present in both sizes, which makes me think this theory is highly plausible.. (I have like 6 months left in warranty before I could open up my notebook lol)

    PS Great guide TehSuigi, +rep too, :D
     
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    Most Acer 15" notebooks that end with a G will use MXM II I believe.
     
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    Kisetsu! I was wondering when I'd hear from you again.
    I think I can confirm that the 4630G is an MXM notebook, since the 9300M GS is listed as a separate spare part.
    Just not sure if it's MXM-II (wouldn't be surprised if it is).
    Come back in 6 months time, and we'll see what the hot upgrade path is. (maybe the Radeon HD 4650!)
     
  16. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Hey~~

    Yeah, I was thinking that too, since I saw this site I think in Ireland that sells a 9300M GS spare part..emailed them but got no response whatsoever..

    Really? is the HD 4650 an MXM-II card? Haha, I was considering getting myself a ViDock 2 for the 4670 but when I saw the price I was like "I could buy a new laptop if that were the case!!" :D

    Anyway, I'm willing to ditch the 6-month wait if I get the resources I might need for it and if I could figure out how I could pry that notebook wide open. :D but how likely is it that the CPU is also upgradeable? I'm thinking of first upping the CPU before the GPU, or whichever I see and get first. (sorry if this is threadjacking, if it is then let's just discuss this through PM :D)

    Anyway, so regardless if it is an Extensa, so long as it has a G on its name? Maaan, I'd love to pry open this laptop just to see its innards. I was kind of trying to pry open my mom's Extensa 4620, 'cause it has a single bottom cover like the Aspire series, but oddly enough not my 4630G..
     
  17. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    The Radeon HD 4650 is an MXM-II card - otherwise that guy in Turkey wouldn't have been able to upgrade.
    It's practically a given that your CPU is upgradeable; all non-low-voltage CPUs have been socketed for years now.
    I'm just going based on the research I've done. The only way to conclusively know if your Extensa's MXM is to open the sucker up.
     
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    Lame, so I can't upgrade my aspire 6930?
     
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    If it's a 6930 G, you can upgrade. If it's a regular 6930 with the Intel GMA 4500MHD, no you cannot.
     
  20. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Actually right now I am planning to open it up.. Although what keeps me from doing it is the fact that I have no idea how I'd remove the bottom part of the laptop with all the disk drives, ports and stuff blocking the way. I'll post pictures in a new thread once I officially decide to ask help to open up the laptop, but first I have to mentally prepare myself. :D

    Anywho, about how much would I expect an HD 4650 to cost? I was digging up 9600M GT's for sale at eBay and they cost somewhere about $200 there, but the HD 4650's are just a tad bit faster, right? So it's just right to expect that it has more or less the same price as 9600M GT?
     
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    lee_what2004 Wee...

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    any hope for 4937G using MXM ?
     
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    Expect this.

    @ Lee_what: I'm not sure - the 4937G hasn't shown up on my usual sources, so I can't verify that it's MXM just yet.
     
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    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Wow. That's definitely a handful. Haha. I hope I could indeed save up for that. :D
     
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    I'd rather spend the cash on an X25-M 80GB SSD - that would speed up EVERYTHING on my system, instead of just games.
     
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    What is that suppose to be. Sounds interesting. Mind explain in details?
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Need to get you out of the stone age! Hah :p
     
  28. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Is it just me, or SSDs are improving only launch times and have barely anything in common with the performance afterwards? Well they may improve for example in-game load times, but I don't think that it's worth it, at least for now (high cost, low space). This is just me after all.
     
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    Yeah a 7200rpm HDD + GFX card would beat just a move to an SSD.
     
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    Also true, but a graphics card rarely makes an impact on overall computer performance outside of games.
     
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    But in games its vital ofc.
     
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    SSDs beat out HDDs in pretty much every category except price. Good ones (ie. non Jmicron controllers) have no vibration hence a lot higher reliability and shock resisitance, lower power consumption and hence less noise, heat, and more battery life, more density (so theoretically more capacity - the limiting factor as to why you don't see massive SSDs is cost, though 1TB 2.5" SSDs do exist unlikes HDDs which max out at 640GB), magnitudes lower access times, faster sequential and random read and writes across the board, etc.
     
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    @ TehSuigi

    I'd like to report that I have a Acer Aspire 7720G-813G32Bn which came with GeForce 9500M GS. It's the same device ID as the one mentioned in http://mxmvideoquest.com/upgrade_5720_95GS.html.
    I'm pointing this out since it isn't mentioned on the list of supported video cards for 7720G.

    Great post by the way!
     
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    Thanks for the notification!
     
  35. spaanplaat

    spaanplaat Notebook Consultant

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    hi Tehsuigi,

    I can tell you for sure the GeForce 9800M GT 512MB MXM-III/IV? from Alienware does NOT work in the 8930g allthough it seems it is also a mxm-III this one seems to have an extra connector in the mxm interface.

    I received it last week just to try it out. But the screen stays black even with the 1.13 bios installed.

    This is the 9800m gt

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    and this is the 9700m gt

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    As you can see it is different and the motherboard mxm connector of the 8930g does not have the last connector. It is to bad. I really wanted a beefy GPU but it seems it is a no go.
     
  36. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    Hmmmmm. If not mistaken, there is another BIOS for your model. 1.14 I guess.
     
  37. spaanplaat

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    The 1.13 is the latest bios for the 8930g. But he at least we now know it doen's work ;) :eek:
     
  38. TehSuigi

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    Duly noted - thanks for trying it, spaanplaat!
     
  39. triturbo

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    I've seen quite A LOT listings of 9800M GT stating that it's MXM-III, around here. Well as you already know, it is MXM-IV, there is no such thing as MXM-III 9800M GT, GS/GTS is different story. Anyway, thanks for trying that one out. Next time try with ATi as their top of the line HD3850/3870s are MXM-III :D I don't know about HD4850 though :(
     
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    So the 9800m gt is actually a MXM-IV? I don't get it. Everywhere I check I see the MXM-III modules with a extra connector which I don't have. Is the 9700m gt really an MXM-III? Because I see alot of the so called MXM-III's on ebay with the extra connector. Are they all actually MXM-IV's?

    Could someone please explain this to me before I make another stupid mistake? And how much better are the 3850 and 3870 over the 9700m?
     
  41. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    This extra connector makes the difference between MXM-IV and the rest of the MXM 2.1 versions (excluding the size). MXM-I, MXM-II and MXM-III all are using the same connector, thats why you can put a MXM-I GPU in MXM-II slot (it's pretty pointless, but some manufacturers are doing it) and MXM-II GPU in MXM-III slot (this is the case with 8930G). You can't do the opposite though (MXM-III GPU in MXM-II slot), mainly because of space limitations and the laptop's cooling system is not adequate enough to accept bigger GPU (sometimes it's not adequate to cool its own type of GPUs more less a bigger ones :D ).
     
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    spaanplaat Notebook Consultant

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    So the 9700m gt is actually MXM-II ?

    Would the ati's be a good solution for upgrade? Also do you happen to know where to buy these? I've been looking for a couple of hours now and still only found the 3650's and not the 4800 series.
     
  43. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    9700M is MXM-III, I was pointing at versions that are equipped with 9600M :)

    To be honest I prefer ATi over nVIDIA, but HD3650 is like twice weaker than 9700M. The problem is this that it would be pretty difficult to find HD3870, more less HD4850. I just remembered that Alienware M17 would receive upgrade from HD3870 to HD4850, that means that both are MXM-III. Most of the M17 owners want this upgrade, so you can expect to see some HD3870s for sale pretty soon, but to find HD4850 for sale would be HELL difficult. One more thing - in SLi configurations, I know for sure that one of the GPUs is MXM-IV (master) and the other is MXM-III (slave). I'm not very sure how it is at ATi's side, but I think that both are MXM-III.
     
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    I see...

    So if I would find someone nearby with an m17 who is willing to order one for me it might be possible? Because I happen to have a friend who owns a m17.

    And an 4870 would be a huge improvement over the 9700m :D .
     
  45. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    You can check for yourself your friend's lappy, in order to make sure, that everything is like I said :) And yes, if your friend doesn't think about upgrading, you can definitely take advantage of this :D Well, HD48 70 would be quite of a performer, since it sports GDDR5 memory, but you can't find it anywhere and I seriously doubt, that if you find one, it would be MXM 2.1. HD48 50 is what you are looking for, it's generally the same as HD4870, but with GDDR3 memory instead ;)

    BTW: As far as I know, the upgrade consists two GPUs. So you can either buy two and sell one of them over eBay, or ask over Alienware forum around here, if it's possible to buy only one.
     
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    I've seen a 7720g with a 9300m GS for sale.
     
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    I think I finally understand :eek: . The 2.1 is also known as the MXM-III and the 3 version are available in a MXM-HA type A and type B am I right? So actually when the buyer said 9800m gt MXM-III he actually ment to say MXM-3 and in this case it is a type A. Am I right? So actually I got misinformed by the buyer (off course it is also my own dumb fault :mad: ).

    Now I see why the 4870 will probably be an 3 because of the bandwith the memory is using. So a 4850 will be the only way and probably the best upgrade one can have for now but also in the future as the new cards use more bandwith and therfore probably are MXM-HA. Thank you for the clearing thing up. That is if I'm right :rolleyes: .
     
  48. TehSuigi

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    No, but you're close - you're confusing the MXM standard (2.1) with the size of the card (III).
    The buyer got mixed up between MXM-III and MXM-IV.
    MXM-IV isn't a Version 3.0 MXM form factor, it's kind of in between 2.1 and 3.0.
    MXM-A and MXM-B are the only Version 3.0 forms, while MXM-I, MXM-II, and MXM-III are Version 2.1 forms.

    And yes, the 4870 will be on MXM 3.0, as an MXM-B card, and thus incompatible.

    Numbers - 2.1 or 3.0 - denote the standard that the cards use
    Roman numerals or letters - II, IV, A - denote the size of the card
     
  49. spaanplaat

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    Ahh... but that's a bummer. If the buyer would have posted its info right I wouldn't have bought the card. Now I have a 9800m gt which I will probably never use. And it wasn't cheap. I paid 300 euro's for it.

    But how am I suppose to call this card then? Because it is the same size as a 9700m but with the extra connector. I would say (according to you comment > same size) it should be a MXM-III but that is not correct because it doesn't work. I think I'm more confused then ever. I would really like to sell the card, but I need the proper info because I do not want anyone to get in the same situation as I am in right now.
     
  50. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    I'll try to explain it, again :)

    The size measurements are from mxm-upgrade.

    MXM 2.1 has 5 types:
    - MXM-I - size: w-70mm l-68mm, connector: standard
    - MXM-II - size: w-73mm l-78mm, connector: standard
    - MXM-III - size: w-82mm l-100mm, connector: standard
    - MXM-IV - size: w-82mm l-115mm, connector: as standard + extra pin
    - MXM-HE - size: w-82mm l-100mm, connector: as standard + extra pin

    It seems that I was wrong, 9800M GT is HE, not IV as I thought, if it's the same size as your 9700M GT :eek:
     
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