Acer MXM Models and Cards

Ya I'm pretty sure this is whats happening. Too be honest I'm not that concerned. I got my 4650, and thats the last upgrade my ol' 5920g is gunna ever gunna get. In 2 more years I'll need to move on, and I will definately be researching the MXM standard of that unit...

 

Just hope I won't be too late switching out--I figured that two same years would be my "too-late" period.

 

I found this card. It is a hd3870 with 512mb ddr3



And the seller says it is 2.1 MXM-III. Which looks the same as my 9700m gt.

This would mean it could work in my 8930g right?

 

This is MXM 2.1 Type III indeed. Would it work? You'll never know till you try, but I bet that it would work. That's not 9600M GT after all

 

Yes I am willing to give it a go... but would it be better than the 9700m gt I have now? According to some benchmarks they say is should be better.

I also have one concern... would the HDMI connector still work with the 3870?

 

Well, it wont be a huge jump, but I guess it would be notable. For better results - find HD4850

I really don't know mate. It's like the GPU upgrading itself - for some works, for some it doesn't. Sadly it's like that in the laptop world, at least for now.

 

Well I've contacted the seller from this site.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/105818249/ATI_HD_4650_M96_M_HD.html

Now to wait and hear what they cost. It seems a genuine seller located in Linz (Austria) and to think I was in Linz a week ago .

Will keep you guys updated.

 

Don't count on it mate, he only has HD3650 But who knows, maybe he has new stuffs now

 

Is this seller fake ??? I mean HD 4850 in MXM 2, is that even possible ?

 

No I've read on serveral sites that the m98-m which is the 4850 gpu comes in a 2.1 MXM-III and a 3 MXM-A & B. The only difference is that the 2.1 MXM-III version comes with gddr3 and the MXM-A & B versions come with gddr5.

here you can see the card as a 2.1 MXM-III

 

Alienware M17 receives them as an upgrade over HD3870, so it is possible, but as I said, when I asked him about a month or two ago, he said that he only has HD3650

Not exactly, both MXM 2.1 Type III (M17) and MXM 3.0 Type B (ASUS W90) came with GDDR3 memory. Everyone is expecting the GDDR5 version, which would be called HD4870 And to clear this up - Type A is for lower class GPUs as Acer's HD4670 for example.

 

Just received a reply, says they are out of stock right now.
I guess your right. He is probably waiting for some broken laptops with good gcards.

Ohh, so all high-end cards are probably type B.
A type A or MXM 2.1 type III can't handle the bandwidth?

But it seems there's just no way to get a big performance upgrade for my lappy. Would the hd3870 be a big worthy upgrade for my 9700m gt?

 

Yeah it's a worthy upgrade over 9700M Gt, they're not in the same league, 3870 is 256 bits and score 2000 points more in 3dmarks. Its TDP is a little higher : 55W over 45 W for the 9700M GT. Not a huge difference, depends on how much your alimentation and cooling system can handle. I know my laptop would fry with such a gpu ;-)

 

Well then I think I'm going to get a dive into the deep (as we say in holland).

Perhaps soon I will have 2 cards for sale

Edit: Oke just bought the card... will keep you guys updated.

 

That's what i call a real venturer I believe in you.
Have a nice diving

 

+1

 

Well, I managed to get an MSI EX625. I'll let you know how that turns out.

 

D**n, you beat me to it Good luck, keep us updated

 

Why is it so hard to get your hands on a 4650? I mean..

 

Because Acer's HD4650 is DDR2, which is quite an underperformer. MSI EX625 has HD4670 DDR3, which is not only a higher clocked HD4650, but it has a DDR3 memory. From what I found this is the only DDR3 HD46xx available in MXM 2.1 Type II format. Sager 2098's GPU is a separate unit, but it's not an MXM type one, HP dv7's GPU is probably soldered (I can't bet my money on that, but people that I had asked are leaning towards to that)... And so on. I was so looking forward to buy the EX625 from the marketplace forum, as a present for my brother (and for me as well ), because I have a trip to Bulgaria very soon. We exchanged couple of PMs, but when I started to ask about shipping and etc, he didn't answered me, asked again, no answer, bought something instead (my trip is very soon), and then he PMed me

 

Weird. I bought it for my brother but it wasn't as a present. It was so he would get off and stop playing games on mine (After I swapped a few parts of course).

 

Now that's what I'm calling a coincidence Well, my brother is not that much of a gamer, so that's why a little GPU swap wouldn't be a problem for him at all

 

Hmmmm. I took another look at the list of other known MXM cards and I noticed that the GTS 160M was listed as a MXM-II. Doesn't that card have a 256-bit memory bus? Shouldn't that be a MXM-III?

 

EchoShade, that's only if the MSI MS-1651 can accept MXM-III cards. Since the stock card is an MXM-II card, I believe that the GTS 160M may be an MXM-II card.
(and yes, it is a 256-bit card. Wouldn't THAT be a steal?)

 

Thanks, it's a dirty job but someone has got to do it.

And knowing there is little to be found on the internet about the mxm compatibility I am happy to contribute where I can. Plus I learn allot of new things to.

 

Hey, hold on. I just noticed this.

Someone's looking for a DDR3 4650, right? In a thread by classic77 and his account of an upgrade to a 4650, there was someone asking what the difference is between this 4650 and this one. What does the 900MHz mean? Surely the 500MHz one is a DDR2 model but what about the 900MHz one?

 

It is DDR3, but it uses the new MXM standard - MXM 3.0. Our laptops are featuring the old one - MXM 2.1

 

I quite thought that the MXM.900MHz (or something) meant it was MXM 2.1. Aww. False hope. Sorry. Heheh.

 

Oh well... it was worth a shot at least!

 

The MXM 2.1 standard is, as far as I can tell, limited to 800 MHz memory speed - that's why even the high-end MXM cards still have GDDR3-800 memory chips. Of course, overclocking can take it beyond that, but that's going out of spec anyway.

 

Yep, I would rather choose Acer sourced GPU, than MSI one with questionable compatibility. Sadly, MSI's HD4670 is the only way if you want a DDR3 HD46xx, at least for now

 

Hi there, just finished searching the forums but didn't find anything related to what i'm going to ask..

I'm planning a massive upgrade for my AS6920G which now has the HD3650 512MB. I want to buy an HD4650 (from ACER spare parts) which is afaik MXMII like the one I have now. The problem is, is it going to work? I was also thinking about the 9600GT but as i read there are too many problems that i don't want to try and solve right now

 

It's been working for at least two, maybe 3 people on the 5920G. Unless it's whitelisted on the 6920G (unlikely), I'd say it's worth a shot!

 

hi,
i have aspire 5738g and it has g105M graphic card.
i wonder if i upgrade that card to ati hd 4650? it's says it needs mxm-II slot but i couldnt find if my notebook has or not.

 

Hi genesistr, and welcome to the forums!
We're not certain what kind of MXM the Aspire 5738G has, namely because it's so new.
It could be MXM-II (and thus compatible with the Radeon HD 4650) or MXM-A (and thus not).
The only ways to know for sure would be to acquire the service guide (which can't be posted/shared on NBR) or open the system up and take a look-see.

 

Would any 4650/70 mxm 2 cards work in my asus C90P? Or are this locked to acer bios?

 

Not sure KoI - it depends on what cards ASUS's BIOS accepts.
A shame they barely supported MXM.

 

As far as I know the bios accepts any unlocked vbios mxm 2 card. People have been successful with the 9600M GT DDR3 and asus have replaced one person's 8600M GT with a 9650MGT DDR2 card. I tried a DDR3 9650M GT but it didn't quite fit the heatspreader or run at full speed.

 

Any ideas where I could buy an HD4650/70 MXMII ? I checked ebay and acerparts and i can't find one available. Moreover, acerparts reports the price of the HD4650 at 9,700 Euros LOL, no way i'm paying that much

 

Hi there,
I am a bit confused here....
The first post states that the 9300M GS is a MXMI...
However, I have read in different forums that people upgraded from the 9300 GS to the 9600GT. How come?
My laptop is the Acer Aspire 8730G-643G25Mn
Can you help me out here and tell me what type my card is as I am going to Bangkok on the first of September and I might get the chance to get something there for a fair price.
Could you tell me what will it be the best card to get for my laptop?
Best regards


PS: If you could also tell me what BLu Ray to buy as I am not really sure whether it is a PATA or a SATA drive

 

The 9300 GS should be a MXM-II card so the upgrade to a 9600 GT would be possible but I'm not too sure what teh suigi means by the question marks. It states that your 8730G is an MXM-III so you can get the ATI 4850 Mobility or the GTX 280M. I've heard of users Clevo users upgrading their 9800 GTX to GTX 280M, so it should be MXM-III.

 

I think it was because my 9300M GS is an MXM-I. Although, in my case and I think most of 14.1" laptops with this card and MXM, an MXM-II card would fit in. PM me if you need photos or something, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.

 

Sorry to break your hearts everyone but the

MSI 4670 Mobility DDR3 is INCOMPATIBLE with the Acer Aspire 6930G with BIOS V0.3204.

The laptop WILL boot for about 5 seconds but then shut down. I can get into BIOS and I was able to verify that the VGA BIOS was indeed ATI.

I would actually like to see that card work though. Any suggestions?

 

WHY Acer?! Should I understand this like the MSI's BIOS is not working? You should know that Acer doesn't has similar model. Their HD4650 is DDR2 and their HD4670 is MXM 3.0 so in both cases there is something different, something that wont work. So it would either boot with MSI's vBIOS, or it wont. Which Acer vBIOS you had used?

 

I think I'll open the laptop and take the measures as well as have a look at the pins just to be 100% sure.
My laptop is a 18.4" so it is likely to be the MXMII, am I right???
I am so confused...lol

 

If you aren't able to make that gpu work in your lap, i'll probably die of sadness. Life wouldn't make sense anymore

 

Like I said above, BIOS version 3204. Would 3234 or 3124 (something similar to those numbers) work with tis card. My BIOS is dated from September 2008 or something.

EDIT: Oh vBIOS, how would I find that.

 

Moelda, MXM sizes go in order of size, I being the smallest and IV being the biggest. And smaller MXM cards can go into larger slots.
The 9300M GS is an MXM-I card in an MXM-II or MXM-III slot. Going to the 9600M GT should be just fine, as long as it's got an Acer vBIOS. Going for anything in MXM-III might be a stretch because of compatibility issues; the only MXM-III card I've seen officially released by Acer is the 9700M GT, and that's just a faster clocked 9600M GT.

Echo, to find the vBIOS, you'd plug the Radeon back into the MSI it came from and run GPU-Z.

 

Def MXM-I. Hah, waste of space/potencial, huh? Well that's marketing.

*runs off crying his heart out*

Maan, so disappointing. Now if there was a way to make an MXM 3.0 -> MXM 2.1 adaptor....lol

So after all, the best MXM-II card for Acers would be the DDR2 4650, huh? Unless the vBIOS could be changed or something. Aww. That's just, awful.

 

Hmmmm. I'll check the vBIOS on the MSI when I have time but what if I phlashed the Acer vBIOS for their 4670 onto my MSI one? Would that just brick it or make it OCed and usable?