Acer MXM Models and Cards

That would be impressive since they dont exist, so I doubt it.

 

thanks for the sarcasm.......

 

Just pop in the FX3700M and it should work..providing your cooling can cope. It is a hot card. You may want to type "acer 8930g with FX3700M" into google and see what comes up. It might link to a thread or post on here (or elsewhere) with useful insight into how that card runs in your laptop.

 

thanks, thats what i needed to know.

 

Gd luck .

 

Hey guys i'm wondering if you could help me. I have just purchased a GTS 250M MXM A GPU for my acer 7735g and i can't get it to work. It boots up fine, but the drivers just won't install at all. I have tried nearly all driver versions from past to present and still no joy. I have even flashed the bios with a unlocked 7738G Bios and that don't work either. Please help, it's making me sad.

Thanks in advance guys.

 

Try modded drivers from LaptopVideo2go.

 

Or you can download and try the set from the 8940g on the acer support since it used a 250M.

But seriously you should have gone with a 6770M :/

 

So i bought nvidia 9600m GT for my acer tm 5530g, but i haven't tried to switch it yet. Because i have dilema, if i can replace thermal pads (heatpads) that are already on the old card (ati 3470) and put them on the nvidia, or do i have to buy new ones?
Thanks for response.

 

Really for best results new ones would be best. But if you want to make sure everything is working in the short term the old ones are ok.

 

So the FX 3700M didnt work for me, so its going to be returned, would an ATi Mobility Rdeon HD 4650 be a worthwhile upgrade to my 9600M GT?

 

Yes, the DDR3 version is on par with the GT 240M. Not sure about the DDR2 one, though.

(Note that the only HD 4650 DDR3 card available is from Toshiba, and it requires some tinkering / SMD soldering before it can work in an Acer.)

 

Hi guys,

I need some help. I have succesfully replaced a 9600M GT with a 9700M GT, however the original bracket for the 9600M GT was based on a MXM II card. However the 9700M GT is a MXM III card.

So the bracket doesn't fit on the MXM III card; the cooler is now somewhat loose, though it works.

Laptop is an Acer Aspire 8930G.

Where can I get the correct bracket for a 9700M GT card? I need both parts: bottom and top bracket.

I looked up the original parts (for the 9600M GT MXM II card), which are:

- 33.APQ0N.003 (vga top bracket)
- 33.AKE0N.005 (vga bottom bracket)

If someone knows the correct product codes for the 9700M GT brackets, I would be very happy!

 

My guess is 33.AP70N.001 (bracket bottom) along with the alternative VGA heatsink, 60.AP70N.001 (covers ram, my guess is this one since it does not use a top bracket) or 60.AP50N.006 (does not cover ram). The one you dont have.

 

Thanks man. I am going to order those. Highly appreciated.

 

Has anyone tried one of these in an acer laptop

GRAFIKKARTE HP MEZZANINE NVIDIA QUADRO FX 770M 256MB | eBay

"GDDR3 SINGLE CARD ADAPTER BOARD 580135-B21 FÜR WS460C"

The WS460C manual states

NVIDIA Quadro
FX 770M graphics
adapter
Memory size 256 MB or 512MB
Memory type GDDR-3
Memory interface 128-bit
Card type MXM-II form factor
I/O interface PCIe (x16); Note: HP WS460c G6 I/O slot is PCIe x8
Max power consumption 35W (256MB), 38W (512MB)
Precision 128-bit color, 12-bit sub-pixel, 4X Full-Scene Anti-Aliasing
API DirectX 10, Shader Model 4.0; OpenGL2.1
Upgradeable Firmware

MXM II - GDDR3 - eeprom present

Ordered one really cheap (€33), hope i can get it working in my mxm-bios fixed 5920g!

 

The similar HP P/N 58013 8-B21 (Quadro FX 3600M MXM-III) required a flash to 9800M GT VBIOS to display image on the internal display in my 5720G (plugged in at an odd angle, with a jury-rigged cooler) - presumably because the WS460c blade has no internal LVDS display, the LVDS routines have been removed from the VBIOS.
Likely the 580135 will also need the HP 8530W VBIOS to use the internal display.

 

So you got a simular card working! Great, i assume external lcd works?

If not i can always flash it using my m17x

 

Every HP 3600m card except for some ES cards I have need to be flashed to display on the built in LCD. It may or may not be connected to the mezzanine cards for servers. This has to do with the 8710p which is on the cusp of HPs manufacturing change away from Compal.
As you may know the 8710 and 8510 are not standard MXM and do not use standard MXM cards save for the somewhat standard 3600m.

When you get the card, you should take a picture. There are 2 versions of the fx 770m made for the 8530w, and neither of them have an Nvidia PCB.
Meaning, the PCB says "HP Artemis" on it, the 8530 codename. So I'm pretty sure they are wistron manufactured.

This makes compatibility kind of a toss up, although many people have used them, they have a high rate of failure in other laptops and what vBIOS they can be flashed to is pretty confusing... no less so with a mezzanine card i'm sure.

 

Oops, I was somewhat wrong... except for the 8530w being Wistron.

The 8710 and 8530 are both the 'odd ones' out of the 4... there are 3 manufacturers at play here...

8510 = Inventec VB10
8710 = Compal Abita
8530 = Wistron Artemis
8730 = Inventec Absolut

hah, and to think there are businesses who exclusively buy elitebooks with 'reliability' in mind.

You'll have to gather what you can from that, suffice to say any similarities between the 8710 and 8530 MXM cards wont go far and will be correlated based on what HP wanted, not the way they were designed by the ODM.

I have seen both Wistron and Inventec manufactured [non standard board] MXM cards, but the cards compal makes or uses for their laptops at least seem to have a standard nvidia board despite a missing EEPROM on cards like the fx 1600m.

 

I'm finally happy now




Longer explanation:

Found a new VBIOS for my GT 230M, embedded in the European version of the Toshiba A500's SBIOS.
After flashing my card, the 600 (core) / 1400 (shader) MHz clock limit is gone, and the card is stable @ 680/1000/1580 (core/memory/shader). Previously, setting a core clock of 601 or a shader clock of 1401 would yield an instant BSoD.

And remember the C90s MXM-II 3dmark06 record of 9290 done with a HD4670? Well, combining the GPU scores here, and the CPU score achieved with the C90s yields a 3dmark06 score of 9258. (Of course, this number is just an unofficial guesstimation, this needs to be tested using an actual C90s to get a real score.)

EDIT: In case someone wonders how I got a GT 230M in MXM-II format: it's Toshiba P/N K000075450, with an MX25L512 hand-soldered to the pads in the upper left corner. A 15K resistor between the SCLK pin and GND was replaced with a 35K one to make the GPU recognize the flash chip.

After the hardware mod, all that is left to do is a blind-flash to http://ifile.it/ds2m6ar/GT230M.ROM.

Just to avoid another "elusive high-end card" situation like with the 4670 DDR3 where owners insisted that they were not allowed to tell where they got their cards.

 

My Hp 770m from a blade server arrived.

It seems to be MXM II, same mounting holes - connector and NVFlash can read/write the rom

No display output however! can't find a compatible bios (trying in my mxm fixed 5920g). Main problem is this card having 256MB GDDR3 while all 9600M GT/770m biosses seem to be 512mb!

I found an indication on the card, it has nividia logo's and it's board P616.

Any idea which bios i could try now? Flashing a bad bios isn't a problem since i can always flash it back using the second slot in my m17x!

 

IIRC nvidia cards detect the amount of ram at bootup anyway (where as in AMD it's programmed into the bios) so I don't think that matters.

 

Wholesale del M15x nVIDIA Quadro 2000m 2G DDR3 MXM3 VGA card

The end of the HD6770's dominance on the MXM-A front?

 

Two issues, those cores normally need bios support to reach full clocks. Secondly with only 128bit DDR3 the 6770M could well come out ahead.

 

The 'issue' only applies to those upgrading acers, haha. And, according to notebook check, the 2000m already comes out about 100 points ahead on vantage. I'd say they are evenly matched... tho the 2000m is 55w.

I think the 2000m could be a good overclocker, because all the power is in the core, not the memory. Its a ddr3 gtx 460m for sure!

Really? Its a p616 board? Thats awesome, all of those "artemis" cards I had failed for no reason.

Yep it wont matter that another vBIOS is 512mb. I got one for ya:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/acer/62038d1298844864-acer-mxm-models-cards-msi.zip
I flashed a few of the hp 8530w cards to this vBIOS and it fixed them to work on the 5720g, kinda killed some other ones, or they could have been dying anyway. Really have no idea. Its for p616 board tho.

Have you tried an external desktop monitor with VGA, maybe an HDTV with HDMI?

 

Vantage puts a bias at performance presets on shaders anyway.

Also you think a 55W card is going to overclock well in a 35W cooling environment? Also ANY notebook without a 460M or 560M option will have issues with that core and clocking it up. If they do have that option then a 560M is cheaper.

 

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You need a 9800M GT VBIOS, not GTX.

Also, AFAIK you need to enter the following key sequence at the dark screen to flash: "YES&lt;enter&gt;<enter>y</enter><enter>YES</enter>&lt;enter&gt;<enter><enter>" - the case does matter. (Press Enter for each </enter></enter>&lt;enter&gt;<enter><enter><enter>, do not type it in literally.)</enter></enter></enter>

 

Thanks a lot for your kind help, I'll try that very soon.
Maybe you could point me to a working Bios version?
I've only found an overclocked one, which is in fact a 9800M GT bios, the "X"
was a misnomer on my behalf. Or I'll simply edit it back to default, I'll see...

 

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You didn't type in the exact sequence I listed.

It is "YES&lt;enter&gt;yYES&lt;enter&gt;" - not merely YES twice. The small "y" is critical.

EDIT: For the beeping: Check your MXM_THERM# pin in the MXM socket. It is probably not making contact.

 

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Hey there, give the OEM mobile set a try at the laptopvideo2go forums.

 

Actually Win7 simply used my old 285.27 driver set by itself.

 

Bios worked! It boots fine in my m17x now.

Haven't tried installing drivers etc since my 5920g is acting up (sometimes doesn't boot) but i assume it will be fine.

 

Is the card still detected as a Quadro?

 

No idea yet, will try again tonight. It now boots fine in my m17x while it didn't earlier but as i said before my 5920g is acting up again! (and i have no real heatsink for my m17x)

 

A little extra for the GT 230M mod: I mentioned replacing a 15K resistor with a 35K one. However, if you use a 45K one instead, then the card will be detected as a Quadro, enabling extra driver features & possibly better-optimized OpenGL performance. (However, the card will be detected as a desktop Quadro, rather than a notebook one, so it may draw more power this way. An additional resistor may need to be replaced to get it detected as a notebook Quadro.)

 

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What's more interesting is whether the NVidia Control Panel shows the additional Quadro-specific pages.

 

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It's pin #149 (137 if the 12 key pins are not counted). Refer to the MXM specification on how the pins are counted.

BTW, try the HP 8530w VBIOS.

 

I've already confirmed the HP 8530w Bios as working, I was just wondering whether the card would allow for a crossflash to a 9600M GT, which turned out to be a no-go on my two machines. It could probably work on Acers in conjunction with your modded Bios, but I can't test.

 

But why would you cross-flash to a crippled VBIOS? (The 9600M GT is really a BIOS-crippled 770M.)

 

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Haven't been able to test the FX 770m - i don't have a real heatsink for it (m17x) and my 5920g seems to be dead (grrr).

If i have time i'll rig a fan to the HP stock server heatsink and try!

 

How do you determine if the mxm card is suitable for another vendor bios?, if it differs reference design.

 

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