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    Acer TM8204 and temperature...100 decrees Celcius o_o

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by Raymomofo, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. Raymomofo

    Raymomofo Newbie

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    Recently, my acer has been reaching increasingly disturbing temperatures during times of stress (such as when I am playing World of Warcraft). These temperatures reach an upward of 100 degrees celcius, usually staying in the mid 90s at times. As you may expect, I am extremely worried about these temperatures and have ceased playing the game to my discontent.

    Thus, I am here to request aid. Do anyone have any theories as to what's causing this problem, or any tips as to how to lower the temperature?

    Also, would a cooling accessory help with it? My friend was telling me about one, such as the Antec cooler. Seems like it would help, but I'm not sure with the locations of the fans and all. Anybody with any suggestions?

    P.S My CPU is currently at about 67 degrees celcius, which is the standard whenever I'm not playing games. I heard that this is still somewhat high...=(
     
  2. Zoomastigophora

    Zoomastigophora Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd say so. Does your fan come on at all? An external cooling accessory will drop your temperature like 5-10C if I'm not mistaken, but I've never had a need for one on my TM8204 even during heavy periods of non-stop gaming (6+ hours).
     
  3. Raymomofo

    Raymomofo Newbie

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    Yep the fan's definitely on when playing; kicks in at 70 degrees celcius
     
  4. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    yike! that is super hot!!!

    my turion is running @ 56 celcius now and render video it runs @ 75 celsius, no more. (using both cores)

    try and take compressed air and blow out the computer, there might be dust in it.

    also is the fan loud when it is at 67, if it is there is a problem,

    if it not loud (just idling forsay) try upgrading the bios, it dropped my old cel M tem alomst 10 celsius.

    you are right those temps are to hot, core duo's are supposed to run cooler than turions...
     
  5. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    just read prevous post,

    if it is just starting at 70 upgrade the bios.

    this is what happend with my old cel M before and after bios update.
    old bios:
    Start - 65ish
    Max - 75ish
    new bios:
    Start - 53 ish
    Max - 65ish
     
  6. Matt27272

    Matt27272 Notebook Consultant

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    I also have this problem and how would I go about updating the bios?
     
  7. Raymomofo

    Raymomofo Newbie

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    Well...upgraded the bios. Temperature at stress conditions are now at about 85 degrees celcius which is a decent drop.

    Still, I'm wondering if anyone with a TM 8204 out there uses a external cooler? If so, any suggestions? Or for ppl who are simply knowledgeable about this sort of thing, what cooler would be good? Any opinions on this one?:

    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/antec_notebook_cooler.php
     
  8. Arla

    Arla Notebook Deity

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    What did you upgrade the BIOS too, I've not changed mine recently but have noticed my temp seems to be rather higher than I like.

    THe other thing I have noticed though is that my 8204 seems to have a "loose" part inside, every so often when I pick it up I hear it "clank" around, anyone else ever had that issue? I've tried opening it up but couldn't see anything (I may try again tomorrow).
     
  9. Yellow11

    Yellow11 Notebook Consultant

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    My 8204 just turned one year old. A little while ago i noticed that the fan would come on just whenit was sitting idle or working on something non-demanding like word processing.

    Turn it off take off the cover on the bottom that gives you access to the RAM and the cooling system. Use a hurricane blower, some compressed air or something to blow air from the outside of the unit, through the cooling fins. Don't attempt to blow air in the other direction through the fan outward, as this might drive dust clots further into the cooling system. I was really surprised at just how much came out. After that she is running cool again.

    Just my two cents

    Y
     
  10. Arla

    Arla Notebook Deity

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    Thanks Yellow, I'll give that a try, I do have some compressed air cans so I'll see if that helps much.
     
  11. Arla

    Arla Notebook Deity

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    Okay, info request, but has anyone got a service manual I finally got the "bit" to fall out (took the DVD drive out and carefully turned laptop over a few times hearing it clank around, and lo and behold a "cover" of some sort fell out... NOT GOOD!!!)

    Anyway, I want to try to determine where this cover is supposed to go. Also Yellow, any chance you can post exactly where you blow the air, I took off the main cover over the Ram and the Processor, in the top left corner (as I look at the board) is the Wireless chip, below that is a honking big fan which I assume is the processor fan, then some copper tubing and what I think might be heat sinks, the to the right is the RAM.

    I assume you are blowing air into the fan (towards the left edge of the laptop (left edge when it's upside down that is)) but can you confirm?
     
  12. Yellow11

    Yellow11 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey Arla, just blow the air into where it normally comes out of the laptop, through the grill on the left side. The dust will come out through the fan. The reason for taking off the cover is to let the dust out of the machine instead of blowing it around inside it. You don't want to blow from the inside of the machine outward through the grill because this will push dust further into the tight little spaces in the cooling radiator.
     
  13. Raymomofo

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    Wow thanks for all the replies. Still just wondering if anyone has any advice towards any specific cooling devices? Looking to buy one asap, despite having my temperatures lowered alrdy
     
  14. Arla

    Arla Notebook Deity

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    Yellow,

    Thanks for the air tips, playing C&C my PC never hit 60, where before applying air it was hitting 95 and shutting down so this has definitely helped a lot.
     
  15. msnealo

    msnealo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Didn't think my 8204wlmi was getting that hot but thought I'd clean it out anyway after seeing this thread.

    Now it never get's over 60 degrees no matter what I throw at it, nice and cool!
     
  16. Greenwell

    Greenwell Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yellow and the rest, thanks for a great great tip!!!

    My CPU temp was always at around 85C and the fan working all the time, I was really worried about it.. I was on the verge of formatting and reinstalling Windows when I read this thread. I sprayed some air in there, a small ball of dust came out, and now I feel like I have a whole different computer.. 55C most of the time.

    I recommend every 8204 owner perform this maintenance every few months!!!

    Thanks!
     
  17. max 0401

    max 0401 Notebook Consultant

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    And when I took my lappy to service for blowing the dust out they didn't took anything off,what they did was just put the compressor blower near the vent grill at left side and the dust came out through the grill at the back of my laptop.

    Did this push the dust even deeper into the laptop,it did didn't it?
     
  18. bundys

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    If high temps are the problem, why don't you guys also try undervolting the CPU? It lowered my C2D temps on my 5680 while encoding x264 video from 75C to 58C. Adds to battery life as well.

    Two most common utils to accomplish undervolting are NHC and RMClock. If you want more details, do a search on undervolting on the forum and you'll find lots of info.
     
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  20. Arla

    Arla Notebook Deity

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    Yes, NHC and RMClock are both useful, but if you have lots of dust in the system, then they won't completely help, you need to get that dust out.
     
  21. bundys

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    True, definately solve the physical heat issues first (as in make sure the air ducts are as clean as possible). Secondary, for those who continue to have high temperatures, the use of the utilities above can help reduce temps significantly.

    If you continue to have temperatures up in the 100C range (or close to it), check with the manufacturer, as that is definately not normal and could indicate a problem that needs to be solved by other means (ie the manufacturer).

    Just as a side note, I had a computer that would crash from time to time, and Windows would trash itself when it crashed. Couldn't figure it out for the longest time, until one time by accident, I tilted the computer when the case was off, and noticed the heatsink move slightly off the cpu. I then noticed that one of the clips holding the heatsink in place was cracked and wasn't performing as expected. This was back in the days of Pentiums, but even then, bad or not enough contact of the CPU with the heatsink was enough to make the processor behave badly.

    Now if some genius out there could find a way to undervolt a C2D below 0.95V it would be fantastic ;)
     
  22. artfuldodga

    artfuldodga Notebook Geek

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    my temp drops to 39c, it over a few minutes rises to 50c and at 50 the fan cuts in & brings it back to 38-39 (prolonged use, 24hrs+)

    that seem normal?
     
  23. Arla

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    Sounds fine to me, my 8204 is normally around 55-60ish, whether idle or playing games. If yours is getting down to 39 that sounds good to me (also will depend on ambient air temperature)
     
  24. artfuldodga

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    thats good, i hope my fan doesn't die sooner rather than later, although thats what a good warranty is for.