Acer Timeline 3810T or 4810T with SSD ?

So far I only found with normal hard drives , I want the SSD option , where ?

Who is selling the timeline with the most amount of options ? (different CPU's, SSD ,...)

 

Looks like I need to use an external SSD ( I thought I could replace the internal HD with a SSD)

 

Why can't you replace the internal HD with an SSD in 3810T?

I have asked around and it seems that the 3810T (probably the 4810T also) has the SATA II slot required. Did you read anything different?

 

I read something about the possiblity for an external SSD > I reasoned therefor that internal is not possible.

What is equie consequence of the requirement of SATA II slot ? (noob here)

 

SATA and SATA II is backward compatible basically, just that it will be a bit slower.

 

Basically, I am roughly in the same situation. I am looking around for a portable laptop to fit a SSD. What I heard was that 3810T definitely supports SATA II (as mentioned by another forum member).

The SATA II theoretically supports up to 300Mb/s sequential read and write while SATA I is 150Mb/s. There are already SSDs that broke the SATA I limit (OCZ vertex, GSkill Falcon, etc..) and probably more SSDs in the future will.

 

I'm will be putting my Intel X25 SSD into my new 3810T in roughly 9 hours. I will post the results here.

 

How difficult is it to remove the HD and put the SSD in place ?

 

Real simple. Just unscrew the HDD access panel on the bottom, pull out the HDD, swap the HDD tray and the SATA adapter to the SSD and put it back in.

And all of a sudden, this notebook runs absolutely silent on battery...

 

Looking forward to your report back on the Intel X-25 and Timeline. I'm sure this will be a sweet system when done. Has anyone actually seen a Timeline with an SSD on sale anywhere? I hear it is supposed to be an X-25.

 

Crystal Disk Mark scores are attached. Kind of strange... 512k writes faster than sequential? 4k read slower than 4k write?

The drive shouldn't have any empty cells, it is on its 4th OS install and had quite a lot of IO. But at least it shows that there is no SATA 1,5Gb cap.

Anything else yu want to know?

@adampine: Buy a notebook with a cheap HDD and swap it for a seperately bought SSD. You can use the extra drive in an external case. And you really get to choose what SSD you get. If i had to buy an SSD now, i would get the Samsung PB22-J. Best value for money ever.

 

Yes, how much does battery life improves with the SSD ?

I have read about 25 %...

 

SSD dont really improve battery life. That is a myth.

 

I haven't really checked the battery life with the HDD, so I can't answer that one.

But in my Eee PC, the battery life with the HDD and the X25 were roughly the same.

 

Really ?

Have a look at this

http://translate.google.com/transla...msi-wind-u110-929&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=


Double the time on a SSD !

 

For the timeline it would be 25 % better

"eight hours of battery life -- 10 hours with an SSD"
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/07/acer-announces-aspire-timeline-ultralights-699-to-899/

 

I heard the X-25 adder (over HDD) for an Acer Timeline was going to be less that $100. Maybe they changed there mind. That is exactly what i was looking for.

 

You can't generalize. Some crappy SSDs use a lot of power than HDDs, but the better ones will definitely improve your battery life. You also can't predict how much since it depends on how much power your notebook consumes overall. ie. system with 10W vs. 20W, if you save 1W by using SSD, the first system you can get 10% more battery life vs. only 5%.

 

You mean - absolutely silent, just like dell inspiron mini's fanless series? If yes, what about working in normal conditions (via adapter, not battery, wordprocessing, browsing the web)?

 

On adapter, the fan runs all the time, but it's pretty quiet. Maybe that's different with a newer BIOS, I haven't flashed it yet. But it's not very loud. The HDD was louder, even the pretty quiet Hitache 5K500.B

On battery, the fan only kicks in if it has to (gaming, Google Earth, ...). It's dead quiet at all othet times.

PS: @all: Ask your questions in the owner's lounge.

 

Hey everyone!
I am thinking of buying either 3810T or 4810T, I prefer 3810T but the problem is it is without CD/Dvd Drive, are they offering system with drive or no chance for that? and have to use an external?

(I know 4810t is with drive)

Do these models get hot if we use it on the lap or warm even? I am very much concern about this issue.

Which is the low voltage processor? SU9400 or other? Is this a new series starting with "SU" ?

regrds

 

There is no 3810T with an optical drive, you have to use an external one.

The bottom of the laptop gets warm, but not hot. I'm sure it is still comfortable to use on your bare lap.

They are all low voltage. SU9400 is dual core, SU3500 is single core. The SU3500 is pretty new and very cheap. The SU9400 used to bei only for expensive ultraportables, but is declared a "consumer ultra low voltage" processor now and cheaper. Still the same CPU, though.

 

Thanks for the info. Just one more question - what about using Smart Power (max battery life mode) on adapter? The fan still runs all the time?

 

The acer power utility doesn't work on AC mode. The toch sensitive LED doesn't light up when you press it. You can only activate it on battery.

I installed this utilty just for this test, because Win7 power management is enough. I don't think the tool is able to do any more than the Windows power settings.

In the Windows settings, I tried changing processor cooling policy to "Passive", but to no avail. The fan still runs continually. Maybe they change it with a newer BIOS. There is no reason for the fan to run, the temps are the same as on battery.

I'm on BIOS 1.04 right now (the newest one).

 

Tocharius you talking about 3810T or 4810T if you are talking about 3810T then how about 4810?????is it also with good cooling system?

 

I'm talking about the 3810T. I can't tell you about the 4810T, but it should be just as cool. Maybe the optical drive in the bigger notebook takes up room that was taken away from the heatsink, but that's very unlikely...

 

Tocharius: could you possibly tell me about the acer 3810t original hard drive power consumption? How many Watts does it use up as opposed to the ssd drive you've installed? And another one As your laptop has the core 2 duo processor does it still work for 8 hrs? I've heard about an extra cell in the battery for C2D models is it true?
Thanks,

Kezz

 

Sorry, can't answer any of your questions. The drive in my timeline was a Hitachi 5K500.B with 320 gigs. This line of drives is supposed to be quite efficient. Look it up on Tom's Hardware or something.

I don't know about any extra cells, or about the real life battery performance. I'm happy with everything that 6+ hours, and that's easily possible. How much I can get out of it max, I have no idea...

 

where can you purhcase the su9400 version? i only see su2700 and su3500.

thanks

 

Microcenter had the 3810T for 899. Dual Core, Bluetooth, and 500GB HD.

I upgraded the bios and intel chip, no hang up issues. Runs silent and cool to barely warm. 5-7hrs on HIGH Performance setting.

14" runs the same, very cool.

 

anyone please suggest me useless software to uninstiall from my timeline 4810t my system is still slow even while browzing it take time to load or unload the program or software please suggest.

 

I suggest you get Vlite and make a slimline Vista, add the current drivers and only the software you use from Acer and fresh install that.

 

me thinks u need only post once... mods dont like this type of ASK in every thread type actions... so you should be careful, ASK once = someone will answer, ASK in 5 threads = Ignored... just a helping thought

 

hmm, actually, in taiwan, there is an acer timeline 3935 which does have a ati 4330 along with a optical drive at 13 inches. maybe some would want to wait till it comes over to the US?

 

just to remind, it uses 1.8'' hdd.

 

so the acer comes with the intel SSD with just 60gb total space..maybe the recovery is taking too much space!

 

yup recovery was taking 14gb... had to erase it...

installed win7 x64 ultimate... now it loads windows in less than 20 seconds!!

 

I've heard that it's mini-sata connector inside the 3810T. Is this true?

If so, where can I find a SSD with mini-sata connector? Anyone tried this?

 

The build-in harddisk has a normal SATA interface. But it is attached to a special connector. So you can easily replace the SATA HD with a SATA SSD.

 

Yo!, I have the 4810T with SU7300 1,3Ghz. It works great and I get easily 6H+ batterylife, and round 4h with heavy usage for example movies during flight. With switchable graphics between Ati4330 (4hours movie) and Intel 4500HD (5hours movie).
Anyway I replaced the HDD with an SSD but the laptop is only set as SATA1!! Strangely as ACER don't have a solution to my problem. The original HDD was also set as SATA1. Now the Acer 4810T is SATA2 so I don't know where the problem lies. Anyone out there with luck installing the SSD with SATA2? Acer 3810 and 4810 should be the same design so.....HELP! And YES I have updated to newest BIOS and chipset drivers.

 

i think the poster is trying to suggest that he could connect an ssd to the mini-sata connector whilst still keeping the original spinning-platter hard disk in place?? so have two disks connected??

if you could do this it would be awesome::
ssd for o/s and programs = speedy system
big slow hdd for media files = great storage

best of both worlds!

 

any solution for the sata1 problem on the 4810t ?
my postville is walking on 120mb/s read

 

One experiment to try is to boot to Linux off an usb-stick (eg, puppylinux). You can verify SATA-2 speeds with 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/zero bs=1024K count=1024" -- it will report read speeds when finished.

If your configuration is like mine, you'll find Linux supports SATA-2 but both Windows drivers only manage SATA-1.

 

Whatever happened to this thread ?

Is there any way to run the Acer 4810tg in SATA2 with Windows7 ?

Or do I need to go back to Ubunto to be able to achieve FULL SPEEED ?

Thanks