Acer Timeline 4810t Initial Impression And Review

Timeline in Amazon.com also doesn't have Bluetooth.

 

Don't know if this is helpful, but i came across this thread on another forum...

http://www.notebookforums.com/thread227925.html

 

um...ok, looks like acer wants to keep timeline laptop having price as cheap as possible in NA. my previous statement is wrong for timeline series.

the following 3810t is sold as 840.625 US dollar in Taiwan

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LCD尺寸
13.3吋全新薄型LED背光鏡面螢幕，螢幕僅0.6cm(16:9/200-nit)
LCD解析度
1366*768
中央處理器
Intel®超低電壓處理器(CULV) SU3500 (1.40 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 5.50 W), 支援 IntelR 64 architecture
L2快取記憶體
3M
主機板晶片
Mobile Intel® GS45 晶片組；Intel® GMA 4500MHD
主記憶體
2G DDR 3 1066
記憶體擴充槽
2(已佔用*1)
擴充記憶體容量
4GB
儲存硬碟容量
320GB SATA(5400 rpm)
顯示晶片
Intel® GMA 4500MHD 分享式
視訊記憶體
分享式
網路裝置


・無線網路： 802.11a/b/g/Draft-N
・區域網路: 內建 Gigabit Ethernet 高速乙太網路，具備Wake-on-LAN 功能
・內建藍牙模組 Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
視訊
內建Acer CrystalEye 暗光補強視訊鏡頭
I/O 插槽


五合一讀卡插槽
3個 USB 2.0
1個HDMI連接埠
1個外接 VGA 連接埠
1個耳機/喇叭/線路輸出支援S/PDIF
1個麥克風/線路輸入插孔
1個RJ-45 乙太網路連接埠
AC 變壓器用的DC-in 直流電源接頭
PCMCIA 插槽
無
光碟機
無
電池
6cell 鋰電池(最長待機時間8小時
音效裝置
內建Dolby® Sound Room-永不妥協的影音表現
支援Intel®High-Definition audio技術 / 與MS-Sound相容
輸入裝置
Multi-gesture多點式觸控板與鎖定鍵
作業系統
正版Windows Vista® Home Basic
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sorry lazy to translate
according to the spec shown above, do you consider it worthy? (840.625US$) (compared to the price of 3810t in NA)

o...yeah, btw, there is an intel X25-M 80GB version of 3810t sold in TW as well, (spec should be the same as shown above)
it costs 903US$ (I am shocked, tha's cheap!! I have no idea how acer gets such low price from intel)
ps. the commercial says that it can last 12Hrs!!!

only if it had SU9400 and have HD 4330, I would immediately get one

 

i think 840$ is too much,if battery life isn't your only concern ,you can buy a 14' with a better cpu and gpu.

with intel x25 , i think 903$ is a nice price. ssd 's are really expensive.

i wonder what will ati radeon+su9400 version will cost?

 

chenavd, are you trying to buy it from an Asian store?

 

4810TG (SU9400+ATI 4330) model costs around 1200US$ in Taiwan

ps. those price I mentioned already include tax

 

I don't know yet,
I am still looking for a laptop that fit my need (but so far, timeline is best choice)
but that intel X25-M 80G version of 3810t looks nice (but no SU9400 and ATI 4330 that are the things I want)

 

at that price range , i think there are lots of alternatives. only advantage of the platform will be battery life(ati and su9400 will also cut from the battery life a bit).for example Dell 14z is not a lot thicker than this, and way more powerful .

if you don't need the notebook immediately, other companies also have their culv platforms on the way.

 

Hello, flipp0.
What driver did you use for Windows 7 beta/RC?

 

chenavd, how much are the other 4810TG versions in Taiwan, for example SU3500/4500MHD, SU3500/ATI 4330?

 

It is very interesting. I have IBM T42 with single core contrino that can play youtube HD without much hiccup.

 

If HD content from Hulu and Youtube are such a big concern, you could ask in the Sony Vaio TT thread of this forum. They have basically the same configuration (SU9300 or SU9400, X4500MHD, DDR3 RAM).

EDIT: Or Thinkpad X301, or Samsung X360...

 

Youtube HD and Hulu are no problem for SU9300 and SU9400.

It's the single core CPUs that seem to have problems.

 

TG = have dedicated graphics card. T = intergrated card (I think)

4810TG has two version (SU3500 and SU9400)
SU 3500: 965US$
SU 9400: 1200US$

4810T (only have SU 3500 version)
SU 3500: 903us$

3810T has various versions (the one I know is SU 3500 and Celeren 723 (1.2GH))
SU 3500: 840US$
Celeren 723: 778US$
SU 3500 with 80G Intel X25-M: 903US$

Those price and items are listed on yahoo Taiwan's shopping center.
ps. some people said that there are 3810T with SU9400 sold in Japan. But I don't see it myself, so I am not sure.

 

Thank you so much for reliable info EXACTLY describing my problem. Only I have 5810T. I checked any BIOS updates and there were indeed 4 updates within a month.

I did update to a newest one (almost had a heart attack during that procedure .
Well anyways, do you have any update regarding this issue? Is latest BIOS enough? Well if not, my laptop will freeze within an hour and then I'll know.

Oh and one last thing, which Acer software is needed to uninstall in order for lnotebook to be stable again?

Please reply as this is making my brand new notebook less enjoyable, even though everything else is cool (design, keyboard oh and I LOVE new scrolling, I read somebody stating its no good, but once I bought it I fell in love with it immediately)

 

um, one guy suggest that don't install ANY acer software (except dvd-rom power saving software<===I have no idea) and update all drivers to newest

hope that help,
if not, just hope there will be a new bios or
wait for some other NA timeline users to help you

 

Could you please provide me link to this taiwanese forum so I can dive into that myself? (hope google will translate it )

 

sure, here you go,
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=232&t=1091722&r=2&last=12561295

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=232&t=1069551&last=12586058

 

Hi, I'm considering moving into 3810T with SU9400/4500MHD from my current setup in my sig.
Will this be considered an upgrade or downgrade?
Current setup has been able to satisfy me for the last 3 years except some hiccup with 1080p playback and broken left hinge with the right coming soon.
The only doubt I have will it be bottleneck at any point? Is it worth it?
Since at its price point, I can get Acer Aspire 4937G with p8400, 2GB ddr3, G105M but that thing is thick.

Any reply are welcomed.

 

3810 is an upgrade. 3810 advantages:

• 10W TDP vs 31W TDP of the T2250
• GMA 4500 chipset runs cooler and is a better performer than the 950
• 800MHz FSB faster than 533MHz FSB in T2250
• 45nm is cooler better than 65nm in T2250
• DDR3 ram is better
• SU9400 has virtualization, T2250 does not

The only thing is the SU9400 is 1.4GHz vs the T2250 being 1.73GHz, but the other improvements like the efficiency of the Core 2 Duo vs a Core Duo should make up for it.

 

LOL I'd rather not pay over 1,000 dollars lol. and those are all double that.

 

IF your sure then im definitely getting the SU9400 3810T

 

As far as I remember, SU9400 PassMark CPU Mark has 830 something.
T2250 is 743 here ( http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php)

 

The SU9400 is more powerful than the T2250. So yeah it's an upgrade. (like evilid said)

I'm not sure, I'm just reporting what other people are reporting.

It makes sense though, my CPU is similar to SU3500 and get 95% CPU load with YoutubeHD.

U9400 gets 934, same CPU as SU9400.

 

thanks for the reply
Can I hope to run CS:Source on 3810T?

 

Today just got a 4810TG (meaning SU3500 + ATI 4330)
pretty good so far @@
ps: can i upgrade the cpu to SU9400?

 

Congratulation, WindyDays.
I look forward to hearing more detailed impression of your machine.
Especially in the area of performance and battery life.

 

Can you tell with what CPU load this clip (HD Version) is playing after 1 minute?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBG4vG1JX3c&feature=PlayList&p=96E05E8E62B231EE&index=0&playnext=1 (Click HD)

I don't think so. ULV CPUs tend to be soldered on the mainboard. Afaik.

 

Hello,

Interesting reviews from all of you!
Does anybody has an idea whether the 5810T-944 C2D will also be released with the ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4330 or only the 4810T?

I am still a bit in doubt about the performance although according to the reviews the C2D seems to be fine. My requirments for working are the use of MS Office programs (also in parallel) or watching xvid (and smiliar formats) videos or do simple photo editing tasks. Do you agree that the C2D should work fine with those tasks without being running out of power?

Did somebody actually tested Google Earth and the speed of setting up 3D buildings?

Cheers,
JP

 

Finally my first Post here!
Im having my 3810T since 2 Weeks.
My first testings with the SU3500 so far:

WEI:
CPU 3.6
Ram 5.0
Gpu 3.2
Gpu(Gaming) 3.3
HDD 5.6

Passmark CPU: 499.3
Passmark Score with 1GB Ramdisk(swapfile +temp): 441.1 incl virtual CD

Fillrate Bench FrameBuffer Clear : 566 FPS ? thats lower than my
GMA X3100 ( 870FPS)
Note: before I ve installed the Ramdisk and updated the VGA-Driver
I reached 780 Fps (without changing 3d Mark Scores?)

3d mark 06: 614
3d mark 03: 1714
3d mark 01: @4k with HW TnL
and @4600 with SW TnL

Tested Games:
Counter-Strike Source:
about 51Fps in its Bench, but @17fps in de_dust (1366x768 incl. Fps-config)


Morrowind:
between 8 and 17 Fps on 640x480? wow

Half-Life Portal:
runs quite good at about 34Fps on everything low (except the high Textures)

Left 4 dead:
with a tweaked config between 18 and 11Fps (incl. Horde)

SW Republic Commando: Same as Portal

Halo: playable indoors ,but i had trouble on the silent Cartograph Island.

Tested with Fraps, net_graph

Vista runs much faster with a Ramdisk for the Temp and the Swapfile

[Adobe and Nvidia are working for GPU-Acceleration on Flash, so Single-Core-user had just to wait a lil bit]
And for the Record: my english is horrible

 

@Phil
on this Clip I m getting a load of 100%.[Smartpower on]
Smartpower off 93-97%
Firefox itself has a load of 85%.
The First Minute is Okay!
after 1:24 its going down
Note: @ minute 1:33 its really choppy

 

Yeah this is a tough test for a CPU.

My CPU has a Passmark rating of 463 but it gets overloaded too.

 

The Core of the GMA x4500 is downclocked.By overclocking the Cpu the Gpu will also reach a higher Core-clock ! Last week Ive read something about, that the FSB on the GS45 chipset can be set by a Jumper?
http://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/embedded/320503.pdf
look at: 3.6.21 Clocks
But I m not knowing if the Jumper is on that Mainboard anymore

stock FSB (mine 780mhz) ----> GPU @ 320mhz
reaching a FSB of 1066mhz ----> GPU @ 533mhz --> CPU@ 1866mhz
But i dont know if this Single Core CPU can reach such a Clock with its Stock Voltage (0.900V)?

btw: BF2142 can be in played in Singleplayer on low >25Fps (except Textures)

 

No1R, have you heard of SetFSB? It's software that can raise the FSB, if you know what clock generator the 3810T/4810T has.

 

ive tried Setfsb !
every Pll gets an error except 2 !
But when im trying to chang the FSB the Clock isnt changing !
It is Staying on 1366mhz all the time.

only
ics9248bf-87
CY28346zi-2
arent getting an error !
But they are showing a false FSB

 

So those are probably not the right clockgen's.

I found the clockgen for an Acer 751 by searching with Google.

 

yes i know.
Ive tried all, to show that Setfsb is in its current version useless.
Finding the right Plls seems difficult atm.
There are not many reviews about the Timeline series so far.
Not many people are willing to open their new Timeline.

And we didnt know if we had to change Jumpers anywhere.
Since my posted doc is showing that a jumper can override the FSB settings,
we only had to change these jumpers (?)

 

Maybe you already know, but if you open it up, you can read the clockgenerator of one of the chips.

 

congs !
can you play the 1080p mkv files without a glitch?

i was just going to buy this model, planing to change the cpu later. too bad that the cpu is soldered.

 

I have not many experiences in open up a book and finding a Clockgenator.
Im busy this week, but i think im going to open it up.
not now, but within this or the next week.

 

Anybody , any idea what model will be the most interesting ?

 

here's a guide how to open 3810T, in chinese though
http://benyouhui.it168.com/thread-959387-1-1.html

On post no 5, there got attachment on the motherboard high res, anyone can try to look it and see the PLL?

 

good job, there is also an 1080p guide !
Thx !

on these Pictures the Pll is RTM-875T-606
Somebody had already asked if it is OC-able:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=283794

 

After following the recent discussions here, would it be safe to say that Timeline with SU3500 cannot play Youtube HD and mkv files smoothly?

 

based on

seems like su9600 coming?

 

@evilid
on lee_what2004 posted link there is also an pictured guide for the Vlc-Player to accel. 1080p content.

Youtube HD isnt playable since its not gpu-acc.

 

its more like KMPlayer rather than VLC

 

My bad!

 

Is 3810T made up of plastic only?
I haven't seen it in person

ps. why would they want to pair 800MHz cpu with 1066MHz ddr3?

 

Even a SU3500 with X4500 can play 1080p mkv's without a glitch using CoreAVC and MPC.