Acer TimelineX 3830/4830/5830 T/G

My wear went up to 14% after 4 days. After doing a calibration according to this guide it went down to 11%, now it's at 9%. So it keeps going down now, really weird.

But as Arsad mentions, if you start charging again from 40%-60&-80% instead of using it all the way down, the battery loses it's mind.

I'm doing a test now, to see if the wear level will go up again once more, after the positive results I got from calibration

 

hi, i cant find the "performance app" on my nvidia control panel. i don know if im looking at the same control panel..

 

You need to download nvidia system tools.

 

Guys, I need a little help. I'm thinking about buying extra 4GB ram, just have to make sure that it's compatible, and that I won't lose warranty?

I may buy this:
Kingston ValueRAM - 4 GB - SO DIMM 204-pin - DDR3 - 1333 MHz ( PC3-10600 )

It's the same speed as the Samsung in my 3830T, so will it run in Dual mode?
And how easy is it to install RAM in the new timelines?

 

did you open the case already, because i think the original 4GB come in 2x2GB...

I'm afraid you'll need to buy 4*2GB...

That said, i ordered 4*2GB Kingston DDR3 for this computer to replace the original 4GB so if you can wait aproximatly one week i will be able to answer your question...

 

According to AIDA64 and CPU-Z it's 1x4 GB

 

Ok, that's cool for you 'cause the one i ordered yesterday is specified with 2x2GB (3830TG with SSD)...
hope it's true, would be too bad to have one unused 4GB ...

About easyness of changing the ram you can have a look at this website : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Acer-Aspire-TimelineX-AS3830T-6417-Laptop/1352/5

 

New 14" Edge E425s looks like an interesting option to the Acer. A8 APU with dedicated AMD GPU in cross-fire. Should be a decent gaming machine and base price is $549. So, the price with the A8 and dedicated card should be near the list price of the 4820TG (if it was sold in the US ). Should have some impressive gaming performance.

 

Hi, may I know where did you buy i7 3830TG from?

 

Ok so what I said in an earlier post may be true. Wear level went up again, after going down 4% since calibration. I started charging from 40%, instead running the battery all the way down.

 

I had updated to 8GB, so I am sure about that the original 4GB is 2x2GB in my 3830tg. I bought it from amazon(us).

 

i just picked up this lappy...so to prevent battery wear, we should let the battery drain all the way down, and charge it back up?
instead of charging it whenever we need to?
what if we leave the ac outlet plugged in all the time?
this sounds plain stupid

 

Depends on if you have Sanyo or Panasonic battery

 

which one is better?

 

Sanyo the best.

The Panasonic (some are lucky) are really weird. Wear will rise quickly, and maybe continue until 40% (haven't seen higher reported), and some will go up and down every day :S

 

Had panasonic for almost 2 weeks now and hitting 10%

have tried recalibrating it but still no use

 

what program r u guys using to check wear+brand?
i'm just loading it up now

 

i'm guessing it doesn't come with a recovery cd?
i want to swap out the hd
but i dont' have a legit copy of w7

 

gaaaaaaaaaa i has a panasonic battery hope its not gimped.

time to go test this throttling business

 

I use AIDA64. But you can use BatteryCare (it's free)

 

freaking panasonic.

 

Yea I know But keep checking your wear level. Some Panasonic batteries show 0% (lucky people).

Try this calibration

Right now mine is at 11%. It was at 14% before doing calibration.

It's different from the calibration method I normally used. I didn't let it hibernate for 2-3 hours before plugging it in again.

 

1.67% first start up.
haven't done anything besides installing batterycare haha

 

any tips on what to use to monitor throttling?
i have a lappy cooler, hopefully that helps

 

I'm planning to buy the 3830tg today or tomorrow from amazon.

do the new ones all use panasonic battery ?

also-
Is there a lot of chassis flex ?
From what I can see, all the silver areas around the kb are painted plastic ?
and the blue areas are just thin aluminum glued to the plastic?

How much flex is on the lid when you close the laptop and press on the lid?
Is the lid also aluminum covered ?

 

why r people hating on the speakers...they are quite impressive for a lappy. good volume and clear. no bass and tinny, but still it's lappy speakers and an entry lvl lappy at that

 

Panasonic is the "bad" battery right?

Mine has been showing at 2% over the last couple weeks.

the center of the keyboard has quite a bit of flex, the rest of it is decent.

 

Acer TimelineX 3830TG - YouTube

i see the kb flex in this video. It looks pretty nasty

Is this flex fixable with double sided tape? sekisui frag tape ?

 

i launched sc2 created a game and idled. the cpu got to 81C but no throttle was kicking in (this is after 20mins)

so i blocked the vent with a box temps go to 90 and throttling kicked in and my fps dropped from 80 to 50. after removing the box and letting it vent the temp dropped back to 82 but the throttle never went off.

i guess i can get away without using throttle stop since my 2310m dont turbo like 2410m.

gonna unplug the power cable and let it loop on a movie and see the battery is.

 

That's impressive. Like I said, not all Panasonic batteries have this problem.

Could you tell us how you charge/discharge? Do you use it all the way down, then charge full again?

 

i'm running prime95 right now, been about 5 min. max of 68 degrees no throttling to be seen. but the gpu temp has spiked to 54...isn't prime95 only stressing the cpu? and because of the hsf/cooling design it's indirectly heating up the gpu aswell?

 

Now my wear level is at 13%....great.

Calibration made it go down from 14% to 9%, but after charging two times it's already at 13%.

If people with Panasonic batteries could post their charging patterns, we may be able solve this (not entirely, because the batteries themselves are crap)

 

aren't you wearing it down by constantly draining+charging it up anyways? seems counterproductive

 

Does anyone have a sample webcam video?

i would like to see the video quality, and if you don't mind, upload to youtube.


also, is there a program that can manually control the fan speed so that you can set it on max speed during gaming ?

 

Well, I have to use the battery you know? It's a portable machine, not meant to be used on AC all the time

Even going through a complete cycle every day, shouldn't make the wear level go up to 13% in 6 days. My older 1810tz is at 24% wear after 1.5 years of use!

 

true that.
prime 95 been running for about 15 min now, max is 74 degrees, and gpu at 59.
no throttling.
i3+lappy cooler. gonna take it off and see what happens

 

i restarted batterycare and wear level sits at 0% compared to 1.67% before restarting it.
i've just kept it plugged in since i opened the box..goodsign?

 

so almost 30 mins running prime95, and a max temp of 78. and zero throttling..is it because it's a i3 2310 vs the i5 2410?
cuz i'm not experiencing anything bad so far.
i'm installing heroes of newerth, gonna see if that stressed it

 

i did a clean install of windows 7 x64 in the 3830tg does anyone know if theres another driver for the webcam i don't see one on the website, what about the dolby sound panel? i don't have the one with the options i used to have (stock os).

 

As you can see in my sig, i have the panasonic battery and my wear used to be 4% out of box, then used down to 60% and I recharged it to 100% next day I saw it sitting at 0% till this day. Li-ion batteries don't need calibration and when you do calibration, all it does to the battery is wear it out more quickly. I use my 3830 on battery like 3 hours a day and my battery is behaving like it should. Don't worry to much about the battery because the wear level will balance itself after "normal" usage is reached like in my case.

Hope I helped.

 

your i3 doesn't have an nvidia card, that's why it doesn't get hot enough to throttle.

in the i5 version, the hot nvidia card's heatpipe runs over the cpu, so it adds heat to the cpu, and makes it throttle.

it's a stupid design. The gt540 should have its own copper pipe to the fan, not travel over the cpu.

 

so the stickers that say nvidia geforce 540m gt are just for show? muahaha
this is the exact unit i bought
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=330197&CatIds=67,68,69,3386&AffixedCode=WW&=&=&=

 

So you keep it plugged in most of the time?

 

if you want to heavy stress your cpu use linx.

also our temps (2310m) will be lower than the 2410m due to the lower stock clock and the fact that we dont have turbo. i think its very reasonable to believe we wont experience throttling with any program/game when the ambient temp isnt super high.

 

what are you talking about. the i3 3830tg comes with 540m.........

and yes the heatpipe design is flawed. but hey its 13.3inch and pretty cheap.

 

I don't know where you bought yours, but the USA version of the i3 3830tg only has HD3000. no dedicated card.

AS3830T-6417 | Product Model

this one would naturally run cooler.

 

i see, me and the other user are both using the canadian version which comes with a 2310m and a 540m.

it was on sale for 599.99 hehe.

 

If it's a TG it has a discrete GPU. If it's a T it doesn't. That's a T model, not TG.

 

You can either make your own recovery disks (you'll need an external DVD drive with the 3830 model) or download them legitimately from the source listed in this thread: Free Legal Windows 7 downloads

 

Has anyone else applied Arctic silver to the gpu/cpu ?
One person said it lowered by 12C. Another person said it didn't do anything.

anyone else get any tangible improvements?

Can anyone play GTA IV without stutter? GTA4 is more cpu intensive.

I'm almost ready to buy the 3830 i5+gt540.... as it would cost me only $400-410 after discounts and promo.


and again I ask...... Has anyone tried to put double sided thermal/frag tape on the areas marked in yellow (in picture below) to fix keyboard flex in middle ?