Acer TimelineX 3830/4830/5830 T/G

It works on the 3820tg (you need to dremel a small part of the VGA otherwise they don't fit side by side ^^ )
it should work as well on the 3830tg

 

NCIX.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=2222108910&vpn=62205AN.HMWWB&manufacture=Intel

I'm going to check with my Staples today and see if they'll do the same for me they did for you. If not, u wound't be interested in selling that spare sanyo would yah?

 

You actually told me may posts ago how to corrrect this. You do what is suggested above but also this:

and this:

it worked for me.

 

You can just call Acer and get one shipped to you...

If you can't PM me a price..

Edit: the Wear level went up to 5.9% on my Sanyo. :/ Batterybar is saying I have 7 hours and 38 min life though.

 

Well, I guess this is country-specific. In Germany, they will never send you spare parts at home as disassembling the machine will void the warranty. Therefore, the battery gets exchanged in the german service center only.

 

Well he's in Canada, and they sent me one...

 

Did they say it would void the warranty? BTW, I went to my Staples to see what they could do for me. He didn't really seem interested in providing options. Sounds like return it or keep it. Did tell me its going on sale again next week for $499, but I wouldn't buy it at that price. I'm going to muck around a bit more with the lappie then give Acer a call on Monday. My wear actually dropped a bit to 10.9 I think the issue is the 'smart' battery to the motherboard...which wouldn't be a problem unless it thinks the battery really is low and shuts the thing down.

BTW, yours is the first Sanyo I've heard getting wear in the first week. Discouraging.

 

First day...

BTW you could always exchange it and you'd still have 7 days (from today) to return it... (you can exchange/return it as many times as you want within the first 14 days as long as there is something wrong with it.).

 

Naw. Other than the battery issue, which is huge, mine is okay (not great but okay). I'd definitely want those 14 days to check out a new one if it had the Sanyo battery to make sure everything else is okay. If it had the Panasonic, I'd return it the same day.

 

It didn't seem like yours was okay... Red tint, crap battery and annoying dead pixel in the middle of the screen...

 

Red tint fixed with the profile and the dead pixel not very noticeable. The battery is a deal killer.

 

I went ahead and ordered one piece of the Q16M ES i7 2620m, I should have it in a few weeks. I hope it will work!

 

Can you make a vid of you upgrading? It'd be really nice to see a disassemble vid.

 

I could try but honestly I believe the 3830TG teardown shows all the important stuff (i.e. little connectors) in much more detail than I will be able to capture using my video equipments.

 

IDK, I find vids more helpful. :|

 

Just follow the instructions on the 3830TG tear down and take your time. When you get impatient, that's when you break something. The most difficult part is separating the top from the bottom.

I wish I had gone with the 2620M, but its a bit of a gamble. I hope all goes well for you ecchi. If it works out you will certainly be rewarded. 3.4ghz Sandy Bridge is beast.

 

its 2.7GHz.

Edit: You're talking about turbo, my bad.

Can you use the i7-2720QM with this laptop?

Edit 2: After calibrating my Sanyo battery wear went to 3%.

Edit 3: The ICC doesn't work. I tried it on linux and it changes everything green. I got it working on Windows 7 by messing with the color settings in intel graphics options. IDK how I'm going to fix it in linux as there aren't any great linux color management software that I know of. I guess that leaves me with 2 options... take it back to staples again or send it to Acer...

Edit 4: The ICC that RobertDrake quoted seems to work in ubuntu. Not sure why, it was a bit green in linux mint debian edition (maybe because the theme is green? (That doesn't really make sense though...)) and the other one that I liked from notebook check (which was also greenish in linux mint debian edition seems too pink in ubuntu :| I am considering getting one of those display calibrator tools, but they are quite expensive...

 

So my battery wear level after about a month and half is 1.8%. I get about 5 hours, maybe 5 1/2 hours of usage.

Today, I put my laptop to sleep and then put it in the sleeve (the cotton sleeve that they give you in the box when you buy your laptop, and put it in my backpack to go to work. I left it in there for 4 1/2 hours. I get home, turn my laptop on and the battery had been drained. I guess maybe it wasnt completely shut to sleep before I closed the lid? I don't know.

But the main problem is now, my battery (using batterycare and batterybar) wear is now 6.5%. ?!?!??!?!?


Using 5830T

 

Hi all, i notice some slight increase in temperature. Wanna check with you guys if it is normal. My temperature is hovering around 48-51 for normal usage (Words, Internet, PPT). 25C room temp. Last time it was around 45-46. Did not do any kind of modding. Thx!

 

For my 3830TG, idle temps of 45-50°C are completely normal. In desktop usage (browsing, office) I get around 60°C.

 

No cotton sleeve in the 3830tg box. Oh wait, you mean the "cloth" shipping cover. Got that.

Surprised you get only five hours with 1.8% useage. What are you running?

 

The user "heatless" installed a 2630QM if I recall correctly. You have to get an OEM quad though, because the 3830TG doesn't have the microcodes for an ES quad. I'm not sure if it's a good idea though. It's important to keep in mind that the quads consume more power, and the 3830TG power delivery and voltage regulation may not be designed with that in mind. Also, for a laptop that overheats, I don't think its a good idea to add another 10W TDP.

 

That depends on what you're going to use the QM for. The TimelineX models only overheat when both the gpu and cpu are active.

If you use a quad core for encoding/decoding etc. it won't overheat, because the gpu will not be used

I can use my i5-2410m for hours on 100% usage, without throttling, because I don't game or use gpu-heavy programs

 

Good point. My reference point is with the i3-2310M, which shuts down at 85C, which it reaches after about 15 mins of prime. My i5-2520M can do prime for hours as well, but I did extensive cooling mods.

 

What are you using to check cpu temps? After running Prime95 for twenty minutes, I maxed out at 70c with RealTemp and Battery Care said it was 83c. The 70c RT gave was really temporary, usually dropping to around 66c. That's with the i3-2310M of course.

BTW, when you've been experimenting, have you lapped your heatsink and your processors?

 

He said he lapped his CPU and GPU I believe. I'm not sure about the heatsink.

 

I was using Core Temp, but since then I have switched over to CPUID HWMonitor.

Do not lap the GPU and CPU itself, as neither of them have an IHS (integrated heat spreader). In both cases, the die is exposed and you do not want to sand that. I lapped the contact points for the CPU and GPU on the heatsink.

Seems like the IC Diamond Paste needed some cure time. I just tried CoD Black Ops at 2.5ghz (1.15V), with an aggressive GPU overclock (830/1660/1050) and hit a max of 77C on the CPU.

 

How did you get the heatspreader things to stick on to the top of the heat pipes? Thermal paste?

BTW is the blue tint normal for the 3830TG display?

 

When I contacted Gelid to give me the BGA heatsinks, I got them to include 3M thermal tape, which is what I used. It is a permanent solution.

If the ES 2620M is compatible, it will hands down be the best solution for various reasons. The temperature difference between turbo and non-turbo is immense. Running the highest base frequency as possible, with disabled turbo will net the best results. I saw a 10-15C increase from 2.5ghz (1.15V) to 2.9ghz (1.225V).

 

Called Acer...never felt so much like the enemy rather than a customer. Keep putting me on hold "for two minutes", he then asked "your baseing this on what you read on the internet?"..."Yes"..."well, there's no recall". Dead silence. He then says he's sending me a new battery (after 20m), I ask if it would void my warranty to put it in. "You just disconnect it and take it off". I tell him its build in, puts me on hold again then comes back and tells me I have to send it in. I told him its easier just to take it back...which is my next move.

 

What is your wear level? Mine is at 18% and I still get almost 6 hours so I could care less.

 

what do you mean by what am i running?

Battery bar says i only get 4:34 hours left. . 6.6% wear now

 

Wear level is 14%. Wasn't at all thrilled with my encounter with an Acer rep this morning...I think it best I move on.

 

I was around 26% wear after 2 weeks i receive my acer 3830T (bought mid-august) & i did calibration for 2 weeks & now my wear decrease to 12%
(panasonic battery)
so if u were seems high,just do a full charge & full discharge of the battery,& charge it to full & u'r wear will decrease

 

Did try that, only go worse. Frankly, after five minutes of talking to the Acer rep I had pretty much decided to return it. Kept thinking, do I want to deal with this person again when something else goes wrong?...well...no. I had thought if they won't send a new battery, I'd be kewl with that...I'd return it and buy another when a newer model came out (one not plagued by all the problems this one has). That bridge has fallen. People who provide me with great customer service are rewarded (I've bought three laptops in the past two months, keep all of them), those who don't I cut loose.

If you run games none stop, you'll be lucky to get a couple hours. If you surf the web, you should get seven hours.

 

Their level one reps are meh. You should ask to speak to level 2 reps. I was thinking about returning this laptop myself ( I still might because of the blue tint) but I'll get it exchanged at worst. I looked at everything at $429.99 and there isn't any other laptop in that price range as good as this one. I'd rather keep this than get something that doesn't even have a core i3 processor...

My Sanyo battery has 3% wear and I'm getting 7 hours of battery life (or that's what batterybar says, haven't tested it out to the fullest) but even if it does go up I really don't think I'd care. Everywhere I take my laptop (mainly it's for school) has a power outlet. I think even the battery goes utter (unlikely even with this wear prob) I wont have a prob.

 

LOL! The guy identified himself as a level two rep. Battery life is pretty much the reason I choose this (well...that and speed and price), I want a minimum seven hours. Again, the encounter was so bad I don't see changing my mind even if I were to get eight hours and a free battery out of the deal.

 

u did few Full calibration?
100% to 0% to 100% ?

 

Didn't want to damage the battery..did to 3%. Used to do calibration with my Macbook so I know how its done.

 

Do what the HP site says. It worked for my sanyo batter (went from 5.9 to 3%).

You charge it to 100% then boot into safe mode and leave it until it automatically shuts down and then charge it up to 100% (without turning it on (the light will turn blue when it's 100%)) then turn it on and check. If you're going to return it anyways it's worth a shot...

 

no u don't
i calibrate for 1 week & my wear decrease 26 to 12%)
just reboot the laptop when it arrive at 6% & stay in the bios system until it turn off itself.
then let the laptop during 20-30mn quiet
then plug it on AC (laptop always turn off) untii the battery reach 100%
test this method,just give a shot

 

Actually RobertDrake is right- deep discharge does damage the battery so it's advisable to re-calibrate this way only once in a while (once a month or so).

Another point- although I think everybody knows that- by re-calibrating you're not changing the actual wear level and wear level never decreases.
It's an effect of a chemical process in the cell and id one way only- that's up.

What you guys do by re-calibrating is let the chip in the battery know that the capacity is greater than the smart-battery (should be called dumb-battery in this case) thinks it is- hence reported the wear level is reduced.

So since your wear level is the same regardless of you re-calibrating and fully discharging the battery will hurt it in the long run there's no point in doing it too often.

 

I'd have to unpack it. And if it worked, I'd regret having to return it.

And what Download said. I think the problem is not lost capacity, its something screwy with the communication between the battery and the electronics. All the same result though.

 

I know... that's why I only did it once...

 

Hey everyone;
So I have picked up my 3830TG and had it for a little bit now, but haven't really been doing much to make use of it, but plan to start over the next little bit.I have reformatted and done a clean install of Windows 7 64bit Home Edition SP1 and I have a few questions.

1 - What does/is the P button for? How do I get it working again?
2 - Which of the 3 usb ports is a USB3 port?

Thanks

 

1. activate/deactivate power management when running on battery (supposing acer's software is installed)
2. the blue one, if any.

 

I always run on high performance mode, so I didn't even bother to install Acer's power management software. So basically I can plug and unplug the AC cable without any interruption to whatever I'm doing.

zebek, do you have any HDMI display available? I am curious if you are able to get the HDMI port working on a clean install. From where did you get your video drivers?

 

More specifically, it turns the gpu on/off when on battery

 

3830TG came back the third time from Acer service. I sent it in because of the throttling and battery issues.

"Problem could not be reproduced, battery ok", although I described in detail how to start und diagnose the throttling.

Best of all, they forgot for the second time to send me my AC adapter back! I had written that it was missing and they should send me back one, I even got confirmation by phone that they would do it. Something's really going wrong there at Acer.

 

Oh, I only surf the internet. I don't play games at all. I watching streaming video and download stuff a lot.

I have sanyo battery.