Acer TimelineX 3830/4830/5830 T/G

3830TG brochure in Korea

http://itempage3.auction.co.kr/Deta...00&scoredtype=0&frm2=through&acode=LP_LV_0301

 

90C CPU temp from the T model under load? That can't be good for the TG model with dedicated graphics. I bet it will be too hot and throttle under load.

The dual cooling of the 3820TG is genious in the way that the computer is always cool, no matter how much you push it.

The only advantages I see with the 3830G is keyboard (definitively), and maybe the USB 3.0 port if you need it, and slight performance gain from new CPU/GPU. Still the HD5650/6650 cards in 3820TG overclocks quite nice and easily

 

Sony Canada have the S 'VPC-SB190S' configured as below at $999

Intel® Core™ i5-2410M processor (2.30GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 2.90GHz
Microsoft Windows® 7 Home Premium
Windows 7 64 Preinstalled
Black
Keyboard
Keyboard Backlight
4GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1333
500GB Hard Disk Drive (5400rpm)
CD/DVD Player / Burner
AMD Radeon™ HD 6630M (1GB VRAM) hybrid graphics with Intel® Wireless Display technology
13.3" VAIO Display with LED backlight (1366 x 768)

so, backlit KB, 6630 and presumably a better screen than Acer ableit still 768vert.

 

If you enter in eCoupon: SPRING200 you save another $200 off of that. In addition, the upgrade to the Intel® Core™ i5-2540M processor is 0 dollars, so I would get that as well.

In total, $799 for a SB notebook with a decent GPU and a pretty good CPU. You could pay $50 more and get a BR burner as well if you wanted. That is pretty high quality for that price. Definitely giving the 3830TG a run for its money, especially if the 6630 is as highly OC-able as the 5650 and 6550 were.

 

Does the Sony S Series have 2 sata portd available? They have listed Raid SSD options so Im wondering is there potential for a small SSD and a storage mechanical drive?

 

It is odd, in a laptop that small, I wouldn't think there would be enough room for 2 SSD in raid and a BR player, but it is a viable configuration. I would just call Sony tomorrow. I plan on doing so to place my order if I can get it for this price.

 

Nice.. still no 13/14" SB aptops on the horizon with 16:9 though?

 

did this coupon work for you rahlsSoldier
i get this error

The following coupons are not applicable for this order: SPRING200

 

Coupon worked for my girlfriend earlier today when I ordered hers. I went to order mine a little later and I got an error. I'm calling tomorrow morning and will update on what they say.

 

I plan on buying a laptop in the near future and can't decide on:
a) Buying the Acer 3820TG now (can find it for around 730 plus tax/shipping)
b) buying the Sony SB190s (if this coupon code works its 700 plus tax/shipping)
c) waiting for he 3830 to be released in canada

Any opinions on my dilemma?

For reference I am looking for a portable laptop with good battery life, and I can do some decent gaming on. 800 before tax is the budget so these seem to fit the bill.

 

The 3830 isn't looking as good as I thought it would be at all. Obviously Sandy Bridge is great but the lack of a second fan on this seems to make a huge difference. The review on page one sees temperatures up to 90 on the T model which is going to mean some throttling very soon. Personally I would be looking at the Sony if the cooling is good. They make nice laptops and the backlit keyboard is a winner! Plus the potential of 2 hdds is awesome! If it exists! Also that extended battery and dock is class!

 

Man, that deal could definitely make me turn on the timeline series..Sucks it's not for the states, or is it?

 

Agreed, Bronsky. I have been hoping to hear something about a SB refresh for the 11" Acer lineup. So far, I haven't been able to find anything. I'm not sure I want to go for a 13" so here's to more hoping...

 

Any word on the coupon? Also, can someone confirm the weight on this Sony vs the the Acer? Thanks!

 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I just find it hard to spend 900$ on something that hasn't even been reviewed yet. They don't even have pictures of the laptop on the sony website. Anyone know how long this 200$ off deal will last?

 

I wonder what effect the earthquakes in Japan are going to have on the SB and SA production?

Bronsky

 

Do intel have FABs in Japan?

 

I thought that Sony still produced its units in Japan (I meant the 13" SA and SB models).

Bronsky

 

Made in China, Assembled in Japan.

 

I think this Hands on: Sony Vaio S Series review | News | TechRadar UK is the new one but there's not really benchmarks yet...plus that seems to use a different model graphics card...bit of info here too http://presscentre.sony.eu/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=6522&NewsAreaId=2

 

I am also leary about buying units that have not been reviewed. Some manufacturers, like HP and Sony, sometimes nerf the parts they install and prevent them from performing as well as they can. The GPU in the Envy 14 and Sony Z-13 come to mind. Acer doesn't install burdensome bios controls that prevent their components from performing to their capacity.

I would wait to see the reviews. Maybe someone at Sony Style Canada can tell you how long the coupon will last.

Bronsky

My favorite SB refresh so far is the Lenovo X220. The IPS panel looks great and the IGPU scores in the 4,000 marks range in 3DM06. It also has an mPCIe slot, so external graphics is a possibililty via a V-Dock. If I was looking to replace my 3820TG, I would have to consider the Lenovo. Luckiliy, my 3820TG is performing perfectly and I see no reason to replace it this year.

 

"The IPS panel looks great"

IPS at 1366x768?
Whats the point in using IPS at this resolution?

Isn't IPS better for colour reproduction and viewing angles?
So, IPS better for photo editing type work... yet at 1366x768, photoshop will be a pain in the backside.

 

1366 x 768 at 12.5" is nearly a perfect resolution for me. That same resolution on my 3820TG is fine. We have a Sony Z-11 in our office with the 1600 x 900 resolution and to be honest, it's too fine for me. I guess the finer resolution would be better for editing a photograph at pixel level.

But, the only real editing we do here is video editing. We have to cut and splice Aerial images to demonstrate the spread of contaminants or use of a certain property over time or to edit video depositions.

The proper color rendering plus the better viewing angles would be a nice feature to have on a primary notebook. The Aerial image colors are important in infrared images.

Bronsky

 

Sure, in your application that sounds ideal for you, but as a business ultraportable for the 'suit on the go' emailing and editing excel spreadsheets, colour reproduction isn't that important and the reduction of workspace area would surely be a hinderance?
Most spreadsheets I've worked with are longer than they are wide.

I can understand the 16:10 (**oops 16:9 edit) trend for consumer level laptops where watching films is the main use.. but then I think I'd end up being frustrated by a low res screen where I have to scroll vertically LOTS more than I'd like when browsing the web. Infact, I cant think of an application where 1366*768 would be better than 16:9, or my desktops superb 8:5 1920*1200 resolution.

Anyhow, I guess I'll have to adapt as I don't see it changing anytime soon

 

Some minor corrections:

1366*768 is 16:9
There are basically no more 16:10 notebooks, with the exception of apple.
yes 16:10 is better for excel work.
1920*1200 is 16:10

The IPS matte screen is better, since you can use it anywhere you want, the reproduction albeit not that relevant, for some professionals its a good option.

If you want the sony vaio Z comes with a 1920*1080 screen, I do find that to be a little too much, and I do coding, hence I need more vertical space.

 

1366*768 is 16:9 - Thanks.. sorry. . too many numbers going around in my head

8:5 = 16:10 - oops missed that

 

indeed it is the same, but why would I say something that few would understand to something that would cater most audiences?

 

absolutely right.. that'll teach me to read off Wikipedias resolutions cheat sheet.

 

In regards to that Sony Vaio SB deal in Canada, my girlfriends order (which I did for her) was cancelled. I talked to them over the phone and they told me that the website was being tested and it would be officially available on Monday, March 21 alongside the Vaio CA and CB.

 

do you know if that $200 deal for the SB be available on monday 21st when they launch?

 

IPS is most valuable for its great viewing angles. In terms of color reproduction, brightness and contrast there are some TN screens that match IPS (like the TN screen on the sony Z.) But IPS is the only way to go if you need a wide viewing angle.

12" enterprise laptops are often used in sales. for example, pharmaceutic reps typically use X201's to give one on one presentations at physician offices. For that type of setting having a wide viewing angle really helps.

 

Reply from Sony Canada regarding the fact that the order wont work.

Assuming the code is still valid on monday then presumably...

 

According to their website promotion ends march 31

 

Damn, too bad they don't deliver to the US, otherwise, would be nice to order in Canada, get it for tax free and $200 to be shipped to the US.

 

So, we need a solid review on this system before March 31st then....
Or.. take a flyer and get it anyway as it looks a far better value machine than the 3830TG is likely to be... whenever it appears.

 

Wow, you'd think a company as big as Sony could afford a staging system for their production website.

 

We're talking about Sony Canada here.

Bronsky

 

How did this become a Sony discussion though?

 

Gonna be hard if the ship date is still March 29

Really on the fence for this, $800 even without the extra battery, and the upgraded CPU is still a great deal

 

Classic! Acer had better watch out! There's a Sony discussion going on here http://forum.notebookreview.com/sony/545391-sony-sa-sb-discussion-sonys-next-new-13-3-laptop-158.html

 

for people looking to buy the vaio SB, it was pulled from their site just now. Bad news for canada.

Or maybe good news, since that the market there is probably smaller, you guys will be served first

EDIT: FALSE ALARM THEY ARE BACK ONLINE

so aside that any news for a lonely hopeful that the 3830tg will have an AMD card?

 

NomisR has a point- please keep in on topic.

 

That's a shame when the topic is 3830tg then nobody has anything to say
Hopefully future reviews for this thing will not all point to heat issues and bad screens.

 

LOL, just what I was thinking.. seems the Viao SB is the NEW 3820...

3830 - meh

 

i found some video preview may this interrupt the silence

YouTube - Acer Aspire TimelineX 3830T

YouTube - Video review Acer Aspire TimelineX 4830T. Engineering sample

 

i look at the viao sb specs comes with a 6470m but only has 64mb bus would that affect it graphics performance?

 

I cant find the SB viao on sony.ca... just last years model.

i'd like to compare with what i have

 

http://www.sonyinsider.com/2011/01/25/sony-vaio-sa-and-sb-series-details-pop-up/

 

With regards to the Sony discussion... please keep it on topic. The mods have already mentioned about that earlier. I don't want this thread to be shut down. I'm still looking forward to the 4830TG if it offers Optimus. Load temps for the new TimelineX will probably be around what current generation ones are getting. The question is, will the Sandy Bridge throttle like the Arrandale i3s did?

 

i think load temps will be like the 4820 and nothing like the 3820 with its dual fan/heatsink design.