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    Aspire 4315 With an Engeneering Sample CPU?!

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by 8twister8, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. 8twister8

    8twister8 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys,

    I have been checking all over the place for the past two days to
    find out what my laptop is.

    The past year I have stayed in Thailand and this is also where I
    have bought this laptop at the Tesco Lotus. I bought the laptop
    without an OS. The box and sticker next to the keyboard give these
    specs:

    Intel Celeron dual-core processor T1400 1,73GHz
    Mobile Intel GMA X3100
    1 GB DDR2

    And overal this is correct. But when I was trying to find out
    what the motherboard was I stumbled upon some strange results.

    Attached are the results from CPU-z, Everest, Intel PIU and
    Sisoft Sandra (notice the contradictions).

    I would like to hear your thoughts on this and would also like
    to find out what my motherboard is in case I need an BIOS
    upgrade at some time.

    And if somebody knows what the lcd driver is for this laptop,
    it will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks for your time and thoughts, and I hope to soon learn
    a bit more about this machine :).


    NaThon
     

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  2. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    The Motherboard manufacturer and model, will be shown on the Mainboard page of CPU-Z.

    And what are the contradictions ? :confused:

    And the monitor does not need a driver. The OS has a native driver for the monitor..and the monitor is usually considered PnP.
     
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    It doesnt say anywhere that the cpu is es.
    does it say that on the cpu-z cpu info?
    it should be at the type of processor at the
    end like this (es)
     
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    Moederbord:
    CPU Type Mobile DualCore , 1733 MHz (13 x 133)
    Moederbordnaam Acer Aspire 4315
    Moederbord Chipset Intel Crestline-GML GL960
    Systeemgeheugen 1014 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM)
    BIOS Type Phoenix (05/15/08)


    It's an Acer Aspire 4315
     
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    Thanks for your replys and input.

    Monitor:
    I know but for some reason I cannot use a color profile with the current monitor driver. So there must be a confusion with the driver and the display

    Contradictons:

    CPU:

    Intel:
    The tested Intel(R) processor appears to be an engineering sample, not a production processor. The utility is designed to support production Intel processors only. Sample processors are not warranted by Intel, and are not intended for resale.

    If this information differs from what was expected, please contact the PC system manufacturer or microprocessor place of purchase.


    Sandra:

    Model: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T1400 @
    1.73GHz
    Speed: 1.73GHz
    Cores per Processor: 2 Unit(s)
    Threads per Core: 1 Unit(s)
    Type: Mobile, Dual-Core
    Bus: Intel AGTL+
    Package: FC µPGA (Socket P)
    Rated Speed/FSB: 1.73GHz / 4x 133MHz
    Multiplier: 13/1x
    Minimum/Maximum Multiplier: 6/2x - 13/1x
    Generation: G8
    Name: C2DM (Merom) Mobile Core 2 Duo 65nm 2.4-
    3.33GHz 1.0375-1.3V

    Revision/Stepping: F / D (0)
    Stepping Mask: M0
    Microcode: MU060F0DA3
    Core Voltage Rating: 1.113V
    Min/Max Core Voltage: 0.713V - 1.113V
    Maximum Physical / Virtual Add:36-bit / 48-bit
    Native Page Size: 4kB

    < Co-Processor (FPU) >
    Speed: 1.73GHz
    Type: Built-in
    Revision/Stepping: F / D (0)

    < Cache Information >
    Internal Data Cache: 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte
    line size
    Internal Instruction Cache: 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 8-way, 64 byte
    line size
    L2 On-board Cache: 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 2-way, 64 byte
    line size, 2 threads sharing
    L2 Cache Multiplier: 1/1x


    Everest:

    CPU-Eigenschappen:
    CPU Type Mobile DualCore , 1733 MHz (13 x 133)
    CPU Aanduiding Clovertown / Conroe / Kentsfield / Merom / Tigerton / Woodcrest
    CPU stepping M0
    Instructieset x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3
    Originele kloksnelheid 1733 Mhz
    Min / Max CPU Multiplier 6x / 13x
    Engineering Sample Nee
    L1 Code Cache 32 KB per core
    L1 Data cache 32 KB per core
    L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ASC, Full-Speed)

    CPU-z:


    Processor 1 (ID = 0)
    Number of cores 2 (max 2)
    Number of threads 2 (max 2)
    Name Intel Celeron T1400
    Codename
    Specification Genuine Intel(R) CPU T1400 @ 1.73GHz
    Package Socket P (478) (platform ID = 7h)
    CPUID 6.F.D
    Extended CPUID 6.F
    Core Stepping M0
    Technology 65 nm
    Core Speed 1729.3 MHz (13.0 x 133.0 MHz)
    Rated Bus speed 532.1 MHz
    Stock frequency 1733 MHz
    Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
    L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L2 cache 512 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    FID/VID Control no
    Features XD

    Motherboard:

    Sandra:

    Manufacturer : Acer
    Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
    MPS Version : 1.40
    Model : Volvi2

    Version : Rev
    Serial Number : LXAL30C0618310CBE12000

    Everest:

    Moederbordeigenschappen:
    Moederbord ID <DMI>
    Moederbordnaam Acer Aspire 4315



    CPU-z:

    vendor Acer
    model Volvi2
    revision Rev
    serial LXAL30C0618310CBE12000

    Chipset:

    Sandra:



    Chipset
    Model : Acer Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller
    Revision : A4
    Bus : Intel AGTL+
    Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 133MHz (532MHz)
    Maximum FSB Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
    Width : 64-bit
    I/O Queue Depth : 12 request(s)
    Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 4.16GB/s

    Everest:
    North Bridge Eigenschappen:
    North Bridge Intel Crestline-GML GL960
    Ondersteunde FSB-snelheden FSB533, FSB667, FSB800
    Ondersteund Geheugentype DDR2-533 SDRAM, DDR2-667 SDRAM
    Maximale hoeveelheid geheugen 2 GB
    Revisie / Stepping 03 / C0
    Verpakkingstype 1299 Pin FC-BGA
    Procestechnologie 90 nm
    Core Spanning 1.05 V
    In-Order Queue Depth 12

    CPU-z:

    Northbridge Intel GL960 rev. C0
    Southbridge Intel 82801HBM (ICH8-ME) rev. 04
    Memory Type DDR2
    Memory Size 1024 MBytes
    Channels Single
    Memory Frequency 266.0 MHz (1:2)
    CAS# 4.0
    RAS# to CAS# 4
    RAS# Precharge 4
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 12

    If the Intel GL960 is part of the Gl965 mobile express chipset family than this is not a contradiction and i will have a gl960 chipset



    Driverpage:

    Yeah I found that one and a few others but if I look at the newest version of the bios update, it states there 1.13 and mine says it is allready 1.15 so i must have a different bios.

    @OutCTRL Well uhm.... Intell Processor ID Utility!! :)

    So tell me what I am misunderstandig here please...
     
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  7. Andy

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    Ok, forget software. I'll make it clear for you. :rolleyes:

    The T1400 is a Dual-Core Celeron @1.73GHz; 533MHz FSB; 512kb L2 Cache.

    The AS4315 has only one motherboard available by Acer which uses only the GL960 chipset.

    That motherboard does support Multi-processors, well dual-cores to be precise, as you can upgrade to any Socket P Core 2 Duo with a bus speed ranging from 400MHz to 800MHz.

    It is not an ES. Your CPU is an OEM part. Software is not updated at the same rate at which CPUs are released by Intel.

    The fact that your CPU supports EIST is unknown. The new T1500 and T1600 support EIST. You can install RMClock and see if your CPU supports EIST. If it does, you can undervolt your CPU.
     
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    Thanks Andy,

    My CPU is not found in there database. I do not understand Where i can find info on EIST.

    I uploaded the rmma txt results. You can understand it better than me.

    What about my volvi2 motherboard. What bios can i use?

    Thanks again
     

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    Download RMClock and check on the CPU Info page if EIST is active or not.

    All AS4315 mobos are codenamed Volvi2, and you already have the latest BIOS on your system. v1.15 for some reason is not available to end-users.
     
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    It is indeed not active.
    Thanks for all the info, have you any suggestions for
    improving performance for this machine.

    And have you got any ideas on that monitor display with the weird name?

    Thanks
     
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    can someone answer my last questions please
     
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    What exactly do you want to know?
     
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    What inf (or is it ini) file i have to (or you use) for that auo monitor.

    Why my processor is not findable on the processor finder of intel. (processorfinder.intel.com) and what drivers i should use?

    And as a last question does the GL960 belong to the 965 express chipset family.
     

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    What inf (or is it ini) file i have to (or you use) for that auo monitor.

    Why my processor is not findable on the processor finder of intel. (processorfinder.intel.com) and what drivers i should use?

    And as a last question does the GL960 belong to the 965 express chipset family.

    And this article confuses me even more:
     
  16. Andy

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    You don't have to use any inf, etc to install the Monitor. If there are any montor issues, these are either related to the BIOS or the GPU driver.
    If you're looking for detailed monitor info, download PC Wizard 2008 > Display > Monitor type.
    Because Intel has not updated their list. There are many CPUs missing. It doesn't matter if Intel did not update their list. I dunno how will that affect you. If you doubt Acer, that you got a dodgy CPU or something, you can contact Intel by phone or email or something and find out what they have to say about it, and pass on that info to Acer. And there is no driver for the Processor.

    If you're so bothered about the processor, upgrade it to a Core 2 Duo, which you can actually find in the Processor.finder list. Search -- There is an upgrade video of the Acer 4315 posted here.
    Yes, the GL960 belongs to the 965 express family. It is the budget version of the GM965, with reduced features and capabilities.


    EDIT: Your CPU is based upon the 65nm technology, because it is based on the Merom Core.

    And the T1400 is recognised by Intel.

    Pg. 9

    [​IMG]


    Top: ES Version
    Bottom: OEM Version
     
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    Again andy you are great!

    Yes i think I will contact intel since i just checked the readme of intel procesor id utility [qoute]Supported Processors

    The Intel(R) Processor Identification Utility is designed to operate on computer systems containing an Intel processor found in the following list:

    Intel Atom(TM) processor
    Intel Core(TM)2 Extreme processor
    Intel Core 2 Quad processor
    Intel Core 2 Duo processor
    Intel Core 2 Solo processor
    Intel Core Duo processor
    Intel Core Solo processor
    Intel Xeon(R) processor
    Intel Pentium(R) processor Extreme Edition
    Intel Pentium dual-core processor
    Intel Pentium D processor
    Intel Pentium 4 processor Extreme Edition
    Intel Pentium 4 processor
    Intel Pentium M processor
    Mobile Intel Pentium 4 processor-M
    Mobile Intel Pentium 4 processor
    Intel Celeron(R) dual-core processor
    Intel Celeron D processor
    Intel Celeron processor
    Intel Celeron M processor
    Mobile Intel Celeron processor [/quote]

    Correct me if i am wrong but wasnt the t1400 one of the first dual-core procesors...([edit] for laptops)

    And yes I sort of have a monitor issue since it is located in the unknown devices in the device manager.


    and where have you found that information (see my screenshot)

    Thanks
     

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    Click on that image, it'll take you to the PDF.

    I don't know about the monitor thing. The handful of laptops I've owned, all have had PnP monitors, and needed no drivers.

    Download PC Wizard 2008 > Display > Check the Monitor Info showed in there, and see if there is a driver for it.
     
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    Thanks again. Downloading now.

    Btw, do you know a link to download acer empowering technology for the 4315. I can not seem to find it and the versions i tried until now seem to fail.

    Naithan
     
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    If it only where that easy.. I have XP :)
    or can i just install the et for vista?
     
  22. Andy

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    You can try. I think it'll work.
     
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    Nope, doesnt work andy.
    Says wrong Operating System.
    I think better to start new thread on this.

    Thanks for all your help Andy! rep added

    naithan
     
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    It´s possible to upgrade the celeron cpu to pentium cpu ? And which socket the motherboard has ? The cpu pentium to notebook acer aspire 4315 is possible to buy in a informatic shop, sorry my english.