Aspire 5315 CPU Step-by-Step Upgrade Guide

I will resume this tomorrow. have to go to bed. If anyone can work out what i got from the report file let me know. Thankyou to everyone involved. hope i wake up to some gd news. David

 

From the looks of it, you seem to have a 965GM Northbridge....but can't find anything regarding max memory support.

 

I think its good news as the reports look very similar to the 5315 and hence the same upgrades are worth trying.

It looks like you should be good to go with 3Gb of faster memory and cpus with the 800Mhz fsb. There is always a chance of unforeseen problems of course.

If you can get it working BigO may need to change the title of his sticky to 5315/Travelmate cpu upgrading !

 

I am totally confused now! Is GML 960 in all Acer 5315 or not? Can anyone see anything other than “Intel Crestline-GML GL960” as 5315 chipset with Celeron inside in Everest Ultimate 4.50?

 

ONLY AFTER UPGRADING TO A CORE2DUO CPU do the chipsets showup as i965... w/ a celeron it is a 960!!

my aspire 5315 said it was an i960 chipset, but as soon as i upgraded the CPU to a T5450 (low end C2D) and rebooting my laptop then added new hardware... at which point the CHIPSET magically turned into an i965 (see the attached thumbnail at the bottom of this post!!!

notice in the device manager (the last line visible),,, the same chipset driver is used for GL960, GM965, & PM965 use the same shipset driver..

i'll post an EVEREST pic later.... but i'm not putting my celeron back in the PC!

 

I read this whole thread and seams to me that you are convinced that all reported GL960 in configurations with Celerons becomes GM 965 after upgrade to C2D. I would like to think that is the case but posts on few last page makes me doubtful. Only app. that report GL 960 on my 5315 (with Celoron for now) is Everest:

EVEREST ULTIMATE 4.50.1330
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North Bridge Properties
North Bridge Intel Crestline-GML GL960
Supported FSB Speeds FSB533, FSB667, FSB800
Supported Memory Types DDR2-533 SDRAM, DDR2-667 SDRAM
Maximum Memory Amount 2 GB
Revision / Stepping 03 / C0
Package Type 1299 Pin FC-BGA
Process Technology 90 nm
Core Voltage 1.05 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Single Channel (64-bit)


PC WIZARD 1.84
***************
NorthBridge : Intel GM965
SouthBridge : 82801HEM (ICH8M-E) LPC Interface Controller

NorthBridge Information :
Architecture : Direct Media Interface (DMI)
Manufacturer : Intel (Acer Inc)
Codename : Crestline
Revision : C0
Bus Speed : 133.1 MHz
FSB Frequency : 532.3 MHz (QDR)

Memory Information :
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-4300
Frequency : 266.2 MHz
DRAM/FSB Ratio : 2/1
Supported Channels : Dual (128-bit)
Activated Channels : Single


SiSoftware SANDRA 2008.1.12.34
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Chipset 1
Model : Acer Inc Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller
Revision : A4
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 133MHz (532MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz data rate)
Width : 64-bit
I/O Queue Depth : 12 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 4256MB/s (estimated)

System Memory Controller
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 2GB
BANK 0 - DIMM0 : Samsung 0x4D342037305432393533455A332D43453620 0x7352C065 Unknown DIMM Synchronous DDR2-SDRAM 1GB/64 @ 533Mt/s
BANK 2 - DIMM2 : Empty

So, I fear that some of the reports about GL960 -> GM965 “transformation” may be result of poor software detection. Maybe some 5315 have GM965 and can be upgraded, but other with “real” GL960 can’t?

It will be useful for this thread, I think, if we could see several reports with clear detection of GL 960 before upgrade and clear detection of GM965 after upgrade. As far as I know, best (only) candidate for the job is Everest 4.5.

Off course, I don’t expect anyone put Celerons back in 5315.

 

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is, most of the software tools report a 965 chipset and the upgrade possibilities for that excellent and well documented.

I think BigO has explained why you may be seeing an erroneous report from Everest, possibly its logic assumes if you have a Celeron then you couldn't possibly have anything other than a 960 chipset !

In any case, its your laptop and your money - you decide. Do let us know how you get on .

 

i must agree with Quilty997... it your laptop and your money

i don't blame you for doing research and trying to learn.. i wish i had done more research before i started... i just saw that i had a CELERON 530 and knowing my laptop was the CHEAPEST ACER EVER SOLD $348 black friday special from wal-mart,,,

i assumed it was the lesser quality SOCKET M CPU and jumped in head first and bought 3 socketM CPUs.... which ended up being un-useable in my family's laptops... so i had to turn around and sell those CPUs at a small loss..

but from my mistake we (the acer forum and the 3680 upgrade thread) learned that with the correct motherboard revision people could upgrade the 3680 all the way up to the T7600 **thanks to WAC who bought my T5600** at a fair price and had success when installing it into his 3680

due to INTEL and ACER being every tight-lipped about CHIPSET and MOTHERBOARD info, we often have to TRY things to see if they work. that's how the original 3680 UPGRADE thread got started by KRAZYFIRE when he wanted more performance than his celeron would provide.

then WAC added to the knowledgebase when he bought my T5600 and upgraded his 3680 with success... then ANDY added the most VITAL and MOST important info to date when he tried to upgrade to a T5600 or was it a T7200 cpu and it would not work in his system due to it containing an ACTUAL i940 or GM940... his upgrade failure and the resulting research he did added more practical knowledge than any other upgrade attempt..
***sorry about that ANDY,,, but you have benifitted many people***

for details of that whole escapade read the entire 3680 upgrade thread.


now to get back to the ASPIRE 5315's we have yet to see any CPU UPGRADE FAILURE (unless you count my dumb assed mistake of using SocketM CPUs in a SocketP motherboard)

so far every SOCKETP CPU that has been put in an ASPIRE 5315 laptop has been successfull,,, (but if you are upgrading to T9300 or T9500) you will have to re-install VISTA to get the correct files installed on the HDD to support those newest SOCKET P cpus... but T8300 and below just drop in the socket and work after doing a REBOOT when WINDOWS detects the new CPU... you just shut down and restart and you are done!

and then all software programs report that the 5315 has a GM965 instead of th GL960..

my beliefe is that intel has the CHIPSET programmed to report the chipset model based upon which CPU style is installed... when IMO they are the same chip... ((**this applies to the 960 & 965 chipsets only**)

 

In device manager under display adapters my stock 5315 says it's a Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family.

James

 

it will take the RAM but ACER's current BIOS only supports 3gigs,, and the 2 gig dimm has to be in the OUTTER SLOT

T7800 is fine PER BIOS changelog.txt

 

It’s great that all reported upgrades work. Based on that, I believe that my eventual upgrade would be successful to. However, I would really like to know what is true:

1) GL 960, chipset which support only Celerons and with other restrictions, not exists. It’s all GM965 and Intel lies. Everest 4.5 reports wrong chipset.
2) GL 960 exist, but in all Aspire 5315 are GM965. Acer lies.
3) GL 960 exist but in large quantity of 5315’s are GM965. In others are crappy GL 960 without upgrade possibilities.
4) GL 960 exists but it is almost identical to 965 and upgrades are possible.

I think that we could find the definitive answer to this with more precise information in our posts. I’m especially interested what Everest 4.5 reports before and after upgrade. I’m not sure if Everest reports rubbish, or Everest is the only software capable to make distinction between 960 and 965?

To some of you, especially if you already upgraded, all this may look irrelevant and I will not force this question in this thread.

Sorry for my bad English.

 

BE HAPPY WE ARE LUCK ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE UPGRADES,

if you want to critisize ACER and/or INTEL for SUBSTITUTING a BETTER PART in place of a cheap limited chipset then please start a NEW THREAD about this topic.

I'd prefer to keep the FOCUS of this thread POSITIVE and stay on the topic of the actual ACT of upgrading the laptop, instead of drawing attention away from the positives and focusing on the reasons one can find to complain about

i understand your concerns, and more CORRECT info is always a good thing...

i'll put my celeron back in later and do a few tests w/ different software then post results... in a seperate thread...

 

I found out very early on in to the 3680 thread that the intel chipset utility would only report the chipset that corresponds too the CPU in use. and some other programmes do the same.
but after cpu upgrade the intel utility showed a sudden upgrade in chipset.
intel,acer and many other laptop manufactures don't want you too upgrade they want you to buy a new laptop.
so without all this trial and error on a lot of peoples laptops. we are winning a small war.
upgrading is a chance you take all we try and do is limit your chances of making a mistake.
so give upgrading a chance win or loose, you must let us know so we can correct our knowledge base and help you/others to make the right choice on there upgrade.

all the best,
Phil

 

English is not my native language. I struggle with each sentence so my choice of words is sometimes odd. It is not my intention to criticize Acer or Intel. I have no reason for that. It is great that we got more then we paid with Acer 5315. If they “lied” about GL960, I am thankful for that.

 

I have 5315 with Celeron 550, BIOS 1.43, XP SP3. Intel Chipset Identification Utility 3.22 report this:

*********************************
Intel® Chipset Identification Utility
System Information
Chipset
Detected Chipset:
Intel(R) GM965 Express Chipset
Chipset Components
Memory Controller:
82GM965
I/O Controller:
Intel(R) 82801HBM/HEM I/O controller hub (ICH8M) SATA Controller found in IDE mode
Integrated Graphics:
Intel(R) 965GM Graphics And Memory Controller Hub(GMCH)
*********************************************

Only software that reports GL 960 on my 5315 is Everest 4.5.

 

read the CHIPSET type under the SPECIFICATIONS in the USERS GUIDE (page 19 in english version) it clearly states
CHIPSET GL960

MAX RAM 2gigs (2) 1gig per slot

both of which are wrong... but they are WRONG to our benifit... not to harm us

and they lie to simplify thier level of support they must provide.

 

I have no complains about Acer or Intel. It is obvious that they put more functionality in 5315 chipset then they advertise. Who will complain about that?

What I would like is to resolve this GL960/GM965 controversy from the pure technical aspect. I have very little doubt that all 5315’s are upgradable, but I am equally interested in answers to questions from my previous posts as to my personal upgrade success.

Is in all 5315 the same chipset? Integrated GPU works on 400MHz or 500Mhz after upgrade? X3100 benefits from dual channel memory access? Is dual channel memory access active with 2 + 1 GB?

Some can say: “Upgrade works, who cares about such details.” I respect that, but why not learn more? I would be happy to answer to some of these questions myself, but I am stuck with Celeron for now.

All I suggest is that we all put more data in reports about upgrade. Use several different tools to detect chipset before making claims about 960/965. Run some benchmarks and compare results before and after upgrade ...

 

i understand your questions and have LINKS that answer to most of them

if the CHIPSET is ACTUALLY A GM965 then the X3100 will run at 500mhz

DUAL CHANNEL RAM info, as i understand it by using mis-matched sizes we loose a small % of the MAX performance of DUAL CHANNEL DDR2 (seach for symmetric verses asymmetric dual channel data transfers) post #1 and #5 cover the issue!

and as far as this goes... we did all this 6 months ago, and learned the only way to actually know the PHSICAL CHIP INSTALLED is by 2 different methods

1.) take the MB id sticker # off the RAM SLOT and search GOOGLE & EBAY for listings of REPLACEMENT MotherBoards,, then read the SPECS listed for that motherboard.... (if you can trust the specs reported)

2.) take the laptop apart and actually read the #'s off the CHIPSET. (this is the only way to be 100% sure)

 

I know difference between GPU in 960 and 965 by the specs. What I mean with my suggestions about GPU is this:

GPU Clock * Number Of Pixel Pipelines = Pixel Fillrate
Theoretically, that would be
for GL960: 400 * 8 = 3200 MPixel/s
for GM965: 500 * 8 = 4000 MPixel/s

If we could measure Pixel Fillrate in some synthetic benchmark, before and after upgrade, we could prove or disprove that GL960 with C2D becomes GM965. (I am not sure if 3dmark have Pixel Fillrate test)

Thanks, I learn something from this.

That sounds very interesting. Anyone tried second method? Could you provide link to the thread?

 

I'm glad you have learned something, because i'd be disappointed in myself if after 5 or 6 lengthy posts i had not posted anything of value or only recietd COMMON KNOWLEDGE... (at least i know how to search and find the good stuff and PowerPack the author of that RAM thread is a valuable member of this community.

As for taking the ASPIRE 5315 apart to look at the chipset, i doubt anyone here has disassembled their laptop that far as it is not required to do the popular upgrades. i'll look at the SERVICE GUIDE later and see where the north and southbrigde chips are located on the motherboard, and since i'll be taking the access cover off mine later to take some pics to help someone with an upgrade, if the chipset is visible i'll actually pay attention to it and may even take a picture for you

but it seems like you are much more knowledgable than i am reguarding the intracies of GPUs with reguards to both the technical aspects and the theories behind it.... so i'm sure you are much better suited to find an appropriate benchmarking program that should allow you to test the fill rates and either prove or disprove what actually happening with reguards to the relationship between the CPU and CHIPSET. (i'm pretty sure you are smart enough to know that no matter which speed the GPU runs at, the X3100 is still the bottle-neck in this wonderful low-end system)

and by performing such a test and starting a new thread about it you may find more people willing to reply to you when they see what your topic is all about... but the only visits my little thread gets involve people needing help in deciding what parts to buy when they want to upgrade thier systems...

anyway, it's been nice debating who to thank and who to blame for the various features and/or lack thereof with reguards to the ASPIRE 5315. Drop by tomorrow morning and maybe i'll have had time to investigate the CHIPSET location and might even have a picture or 2 posted...

but for now i have to finish my new BIOS RECOVERY THREAD,, and now that i have gotten my USB Floppy back from a "friend", i have a PC here that has been waiting for over a week to be upgraded from VISTA to XP PRO... so i'm gonna be too busy to continue this discussion right now.

later,
bigO

 

OK, I got the message. Thank you for your time.

 

This is not related to upgrading, sort of. I recently found something wrong with my dc jack. when i plugged in the ac adapter it would go fritzy, no letting charge it sometimes. I ordered a new part(DC in cable). I'm still waiting for this. But now when every i have the plug in for a long time it gets hot. SO HOT IT SLIGHTLY MELTED THE PLUG OF THE AC ADAPTER! Does anyone know why this is? Is there some gunk that could be in there causing something to happen?

 

i'd be calling ACER and getting that part replaced under warranty

the problem is with the adapter (or it's cable) and not the laptop? correct?

you are taking a chance of damaging your PC by continuing to use that adapter and cable. not to mention taking a chance of starting a fire...

there is no simple fix anyone here can give you... if liquid or tar like substance is leaking out of the BRICK that is a bad sign that some electronic part like a capacitor has fried and is you are risking damage to the PC every minute it plugged into the laptop

if the cable end that plugs into the wall is melting... you need to unplug it NOW and email acer.... and then call thier 1800 # and demand a new AC adapter be shipped out to you ASAP

if the part of the cable that plugs into the laptop is melting then you may need to send the entire laptop into ACER... and i'd think about sending it in to them anyway so they can see the damage and get a case started so if this problem occurs again you have proof of the first time it happened

I THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS ISSUE MORE SERIOUSLY THAN YOU CURRENTLY ARE!!

 

That's a great link on memory theory, though interestingly on the 5315 CPUZ reports dual channel symmetric mode when using an otherwise identical 1Gb and 2Gb RAM chip configuration.

I'm scratching my head, Intel must be using some very clever algorithms to make this work as well as it does.

 

I have had the occasion to read every post in this thread this evening, thank you for the insightful research. I plan on getting an Aspire 5315 just for upgrading thanks to this thread.

While I was trying to decipher the meaning of the -2xxx codes that differentiate the different configurations, I found the Aspire 5315-2639 model is currently on sale for $380. I noticed this model uses the T1400 chip, which is not listed in the “Ultimate CPU Guide” thread. A little legwork revealed this CPU actually uses socket M instead of socket P, and is as far as I can tell the only Aspire 5315 to use socket M.

Just a word of caution, unless I am mistaken, don’t buy this model of the 5315 because you can’t upgrade a socket M CPU.

 

ALL ASPIRE 5315's are SOCKET P ONLY...

the second set of 4 #'s following the 5315 is the acer configuration number,

for example the 5315-2153 is the cheapest slowest model ever sold in the US,

i have to change my statement as i just found this page and from reading it,, i have learned that intel is now producing a DUAL CORE CELERON in a SOCKET P format... in the second picture on that page,, the second CPU... the one with the eSpec of SLAQL is infact a SOCKET P

that was my mistake and i'm sorry... but who would have thought that intel would mess around with dual core celerons,, the T7300 is a much better CPU and can be bought off of EBAY for $150 or less,, and a T5250 the lowest CORE2DUO that is a SOCKET P can be purchased for $50 or less.. so why would anyone buy a dual core celeron?? these must be aimed at low end system builders??

but i too learn daily from this thread i created... i hope you find it as useful and interesting as myself and others have!!

thanks,
bigO

 

yeah,, POWERPACK is one heck of a smart person,, and very good at disseminating knowledge into words that we can easily understand.

as for INTEL's methods of memory access with this PC,,, i have NO CLUE... all that tech speak is kinda 2 steps above my knowledge level... i is a component level technician

 

Indeed I was mistaken about the socket in the Aspires, although there is a socket M T1400 solo core. It took a little searching at the Intel site, but I found the info about their new dual core, socket P, SLAQL T1400 chips for laptops. Here are some specs in black and white: http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLAQL.html

What, no fanfare and blaring trumpets from Intel praising their latest processor breakthrough in the T1400? Looks like they are trying to slip this slow piece of crap into the market and hope no one notices

My laptop needs are somewhat limited, so I plan on keeping my Aspire 5315 for several years, which is why I want a system that can be upgraded over time for little money. I noticed one of the biggest caveats in the 5315 is the integrated graphics card, the one component that can't be upgraded.

I don't plan on playing games on mine, but I would like the option, and I may have occasion to do a little 3D molecular modeling... Anyway, I was reading up today on external graphic cards for laptops, specifically the ATi XGP ( http://ati.amd.com/technology/xgp/howdoesitwork.html). This external graphics box can apparently connect to a laptop equipped with a ExpressCard slot, which all Aspire 5315 laptops have.

In theory an external graphics card could be as powerful, if not more than, any internal laptop graphics card. If this can actually connect to the 5315, it could make the laptop a rival for the latest obscenely expensive Alienware gaming laptops. In theory... I didn't see if the external graphics card is available yet, or how much it will cost.

A year or two from now I might want to stick a T9500 CPU in my laptop, along with a 750GB laptop drive, and most likely these components will be very cheap by then. The ability to upgrade the graphics too, assuming the external cards are out, means the dirt cheap 5315 could serve me well for years to come. The potential is here to save thousands of dollars by not buying a brand new laptop every few months, and instead upgrading this sucker until it dies.

Maybe I am cheap, maybe I like the challenge of building my own system, and maybe I just like to tell the big companies where they can stick their high prices. Regardless, thank you bigozone for opening my eyes to the fascinating world of DIY laptopping

 

glad to have helped you!!... now to burst your bubble a bit...

ASUS has been working on those external GRAPHICS devices, but the last i read on the subject seemed to indicate that the device CURRENTLY was only working on ASUS laptops and was extremely over priced..

in a year or two those devices are either going to become the "MAGIC BULLET" and saturate the market, or they are going to quickly evaporate and won't even exist. i hate to be negative, but i don't see the external devices over-comming all the current issues. while i hope i am wrong, i've seen similar ideas come and go thru out my 20+ yrs of doing PC tech work, and very few of them are lucky enough to out live the current chipset of the day!

you will always be able to buy a cheap CPU and HDD in the future the are only gonna get cheaper.... and if you want dedicated graphics bad enough you can always buy a new laptop. these 5315's are actually holding thier value very well,,, infact i can't buy a refurb 5315 for under $375, yet i bought mine factory new in a sealed box for $348. you can always sell the laptop later and use the money to put toward one w/ the features you want. just steer clear of rent to own PCs... i see people paying $99 a month (for 12 months) to RENT2OWN a PC very similar in specs to the $468 aspire 5315 listed to the left of the main window. that's practically double the cost of the PC when bought ought right.

IMO considering the fact that you will be using it for school (a good reason not to have good video since it could turn into a major distraction),, these cheap laptops are a very good technology investment...



enjoy the wonderful world of laptop enhancement,
bigO

 

Hello, sorry for my English, does it accept a Core 2 duo T5470 socket p?
Thank you.

 

the ASPPIRE 5315 will accept and function fine with ANY socket P CPU...

what are the specs of that CPU if i recall any T5X70 is an 800mhz FSB?

 

come on mate if things are melting then you and the people around you could get hurt.
i had a costumer with an IBM T21 with the same kind of problem.

Fire Kills

 

It didnt really melt just made the plastic softer from the heat . The problem stopped but i am going to take it apart and see what the problem was. Hopefully it wont happen again.

 

what do you think MELTING means?

melt (mlt)
v. melt·ed, melt·ing, melts
v.intr.
1. To be changed from a solid to a liquid state especially by the application of heat.
2. To dissolve: Sugar melts in water.
3. To disappear or vanish gradually as if by dissolving: The crowd melted away after the rally.
4. To pass or merge imperceptibly into something else: Sea melted into sky along the horizon.
5. To become softened in feeling: Our hearts melted at the child's tears.
6. Obsolete To be overcome or crushed, as by grief, dismay, or fear.
v.tr.
1. To change (a solid) to a liquid state especially by the application of heat.
2. To dissolve: The tide melted our sand castle away.
3. To cause to disappear gradually; disperse.
4. To cause (units) to blend: "Here individuals of all races are melted into a new race of men" Michel Guillaume Jean de Crèvecoeur.
5. To soften; make gentle or tender.

 

^ Whats goin on here..?!

 

ok i now have a first hand report of visual inspection.... and ACER IS NOT LYING,,,, the GPU or NORTHBRIGDE CHIP says GL960... so now the question is this...

are the two parts the same chip but w/ different labels printed on the top?

or are they the same but with certain features disabled,,, or is intel continuing it's pattern of selling parts that fail to pass QC at one clock speed as a different part that was designed to operate at a lower speed, when infact it is actually the same part that has been down clocked to allow it to pass QC?

edit:: that would make an excellent tech article.... maybe some online-site or pc magazine could write an article on that

 

This is very interesting and might explain why CPUZ is reporting my chipset as GL960, but it appears to have 965 features (memory capacity, cpu/fsbs supported.

There is a lot of mileage in the idea that 965 chips which fail some of their tests could be branded/sold as 960s though slightly against this are the forum members' upgrading experiences which are remarkably consistent.

An alternative thought is that Intel get big orders for 960s, no doubt priced lower than 965s, but fills them with 965s that are rebadged and slightly downtweaked (in the same way that they downtweak their processors at will by locking the multipliers on most of them).

I don't think we are going to get an official pronouncement from Acer or Intel !

 

Thank you. Really crucial information. If Everest detects GL960 on this system, we have confirmation that Everest produces reliable chipset reports.

Is this system upgraded? Could we see Everest, CPU-Z ... reports?

Could someone else with upgraded 5315 post Everest report (lots of details please) ?

 

Are you sure about CPUZ and GL960? This would be first time that any other tool except Everest reports GL960. On my 5315 (Celeron 550) CPUZ 1.44.2 reports GM965.

************************************************************
CPU-Z 1.44.2 report file (I deleted some rows to save space)

Processor(s)
Name Intel Celeron M 550
Code Name Conroe-L
Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 550 @ 2.00GHz
Package Socket 479 mPGA
Core Speed 1995.1 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 15.0 x 133.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 532.0 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz

Chipset & Memory
Northbridge Intel GM965 rev. C0
Southbridge Intel 82801HBM (ICH8-ME) rev. 03
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency 266.0 MHz (1:2)

System
System Manufacturer Acer
System Name Aspire 5315
System S/N LXALC0C0458111B8C11601
Mainboard Vendor Acer
Mainboard Model Acadia
BIOS Vendor Acer
BIOS Version V1.43
BIOS Date 06/25/2008

Memory SPD
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Samsung

Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
***********************************************************************

Could you post reports with the similar level of details from CPU-Z and Everest 4.50 for your system?

 

my stock acer 5315 is running a 965 acorcing to the bios with a 560 procesor (550 0n the sticker lol)

snd how do i find the model number e.g. number after the 5315

 

lol.... that's like Fez from that 70's show

 

Well said that man.

 

CPU-Z v 1.46 reports a GL960 for my 5315 system. I'm running with the stock Celeron 530.

 

yo,
has anyone tried installing an motherboard from a higher acer aspire into the 5315. this could mean upgrading processor, graphics etc.. at the same time.
and i believe it would be cheaper than buying the upgraded version.

it looks do able as i think the shells are the same

p.s. if u dont think its not viable look at how much a higer end aspire sells for on ebay with a broken screen, hard drive, etc...

 

just got back from the KID ROCK CONCERT.... i got a guitar pick from Jason Krause of the TWISTED BROWN TRUCKER BAND!!!! i hope my crap digital camera took a few decent PICTURES...my seats were OK... but not great....

as for the PICK i'll post images tomorrow in OT,,, along w/ other PICS if they look ok.... and there is a little story of how i managed to get a PICK when i was 30 rows back.... lets just say the good you do comes back to you!!

good eye.. i couldn't remeber where i had heard that saying... but you are 100% correct.... (i think i was feeling the same or even more frustration when i typed that post)... BTW Fez Rocks!! love season1

as i finally was motivated to find out for sure... the ASPIRE 5315 does infact have a GPU labeled GL960 (see previous posts for my thoughts on why it may magically converts to a GM965 after C2D upgrade)...

i was actually thinking about the possibility of something like this.... but you'd need a MOBO with ports and plugs in the EXACT SAME LOCATIONS unless you wanna go making new holes and usb slots, vga connector holes ect..

i'll go into limitations deeper later on, first i need about 12 hrs of sleep.. and then i have a laptop I MUST FIX YESTERDAY so it has priority over everything else at this time

but i will get to addressing the idea and it's possibilities w/o doing case modifications.

 

Facts collected in last few pages:
- CPU-Z 1.46 and Everest 4.50.1330 can detect GL960 with Celeron.
- CPU-Z 1.46 (and probably Everest) can detect GL960 with T9300 (according to Quilty997, #588).
- All other software, including Intel Chipset Identification Utility, can’t make distinction between 960 and 965 in current versions.

In my opinion:
- There is no magic GL960 => GM965 conversion after C2D upgrade.
- You can put C2D on GL960 and it will ALMOST certainly work.
- We can’t blindly trust any software about all details they report regarding GL960.

What’s the real GL960 spec? Could 690 based 5315 become unstable after upgrade? What about FSB, memory speed …? These are all valid questions – how to answer them without research?

Wrong thread? OK, I AGREE and I apologize for length of my posts. I’m not apologizing for asking these questions here. It was not off topic, after all.

To bigozone:
Extraneous junk, antagonism crap, pollute the actual VALUABLE info … ??? Is that really necessary? It is really hard to not respond to you in the same manner.

 

I too believe this topic should have been discussed in a separate thread. This is called Thread Hijacking, since it was specifically opened to discuss about 5315 upgrades and not for a debate on the GL960 and GM965.

The GL960 is just a crippled version of the GM965, and the main reason the 5315 has Penryn Support, is due to the fact that the BIOS is shared with the 7720 Series, etc

(Create a new thread and get the posts shifted to that thread with the help of a Mod)

 

looks like the motherboard upgrade is possibel, IN THEORY

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=256253

NO PROOF
but i would be extreemely interestead if it is doable, more research needed,
im sure u guys are a lot more knowledgeble than me (a 16yr old)

please research, im sure everyone would be interested if its doable or not.

 

You want to swap mobos in the 5315..?? I guess the 7720 has a similar mobo. Will have to look up the compatibility, since BigO earlier stated that the 7720's mobo is a bit bigger in size. It will be a great upgrade if you can get a PM965 mobo from the 7720 into the 5315.

[I swapped my mobo, from an Aspire 5570 into my 3680. Works fine and I did it basically to get Core 2 Duo functionality in my notebook. (And I got a cheap deal on the mobo for $95).]

 

you are right, but it seemed to me you were not getting the idea of what i am trying to achieve with this sticky! i appologize for my hostility and respect you for your ability to refrain from turning it into a flame war!!

this post is your best yet IMO.. you are asking VITAL questions reguarding the stability of the system after upgrades....

Ok,, maybe was being WAY TO HARSH,and i appoligize for that.

i am glad to see we are finally comming to an understanding about this whole issue.. and i want to help..
but i don't want that help to screw up the flow of info in this thread...

i'm already deleting some of my posts to clear space in the thread and make it a more new-user friendly collection of info.... so anything you want to copy and paste into your thread needs to be done buy monday.... because on monday i'm doing SERIOUS deleting of previous posts that have been coverd in posts prior to them.

i'm just trying to keep this thread to MOST IMPORTANT info about the upgrade, and it would be extremely intimidating to newbies to see all that technical data and wonder what it means, and might cause some to back away from a very easy and 100% successful upgrade. also this thread has reached 600 posts and by addind multiple posts form each reoprting upgrade it would cause many people to skip reading most of the important things..

since i have not seen or heard of issues form upgrading even to the top-end T9500. i don't see a need to go searching for reasons to scare people away from upgrading CPUs especially when it works FINE!

i have had no reports of instability, infact my information is quite the opposite, even after the upgrades to the T9500, GL960 works fine and the FSB will report and RUN in full FSB SPEEDS even at 800mhz (one guy has even over clocked above 800mhz (DO NO ASK, as i don't condone such actions)
RAM speed is limited to the 667mhz of the DETECTED CHIPSET (i965) RAM speed is limited to 533 by a GL960.. yet no one is having BSODs or problems from either CPU FSB or the RAM speeds being increased above the i960's specs,, and they will come here and report problems and ask for help or atleast provide us w/ thier experiences... should they encounter such problems...

i'm also gonna appologize for the fact that much of the research you are trying to do has been done, but in different threads i have long since lost (i had no need to keep them since no-one was having issues! but you have no clue the # of PMs that have went back and forth between 5315 owners and myself or the details of what we have done in the past unless you are searching using NBR FORUM SEARCH and then you want to be more vauge rather than specific... (one wrong word (or letter even) in the seach and it can ommit the exact info you wanted just search for 5315 chipset

start a thread about chipset data reports,, i will contribute and link it to the main post so others can find the info easily..

the info can have good uses and is revelant to the upgrade, so i'm happy to help. but from the 30 or more 5315's i have helped upgrade thru NBR i've ran into no issues other than POWER MANAGMENT not working in a T9500 upgrade until after a fresh OS install.

i'm really not trying to be an *** i'm trying to keep the actual CRITICAL INFO for upgrades easy to find while keeping it as simple as possible...

start a thread, i'll post info from the 2 5315's i've got that have been upgraded. and i will link it to the firsrt page POST #1, i want to help you.. but i want you to help me too, buy keeping that data in your chipset thread dedicated to that specific topic.. (new users tend to get very confused when topics inside a thread change like the weather)

later,
bigO