Aspire 5315 CPU Step-by-Step Upgrade Guide

T7100 should work fine, probably the best place to buy one would be eBay, fidning notebook CPU's brand new from other sources can be fairly tricky.

 

Thought so. Thanks

 

Hi guys,

I have another question about the bios.
In this thread, you are saying that you have to update the bios to v1.33.
I have v1.34, the latest version out now is v1.46, if I'm right.
Anyone experienced any problems with this version?
Or is this version safe to be installed without problems?

Thanks!

EDIT: Latest version out now is v1.45.

 

so I now have a T8300 and a T7300. which one would you guys use?

 

defeny the t8300;
its faster, (2.4 GHz VS 2 GHz)
newer(2008, not 2007)
and uses 45nm instead of 65.(wich means more energy effeciency.)

@Full-English

in the netherlands we got our own recources
http://kopen.marktplaats.nl/computers-en-software/processors/c343.html
http://tweakers.net/aanbod/cat/612/intel-core.html

 

Hello,

I have a problem. I tried to upgrade the cpu of my acer 5315 but now it does not boot!

My laptop had a Intel Celeron M 530 (SLA2G) and I replaced it with a Intel Core 2 Duo T5450 (SLA4F). Previously I upgraded my bios to 1.45 so I don't understand why it doesn't boot...

My motherboard is: ICL50 L07

I have 1GB of RAM PC2-5300S-555-12.F1.667

Can the new CPU be damaged or something? I haven't read anything about this problem...

 

OK i have read through a vasy majority of this thread but I do have a question.

1. CPUiD shows the socket as "Socket 479 mPGA" is that the same as socket P or socket m?

The reason why I am asking that is I have found some cheap socket P processors but the socket 479 I gotta do some searching for.

Now this upgrade is for the "Wife", I know I know trust me I know. Mainly Im just a little confused on the socket type and the FSB. Just need a little direction since im a cheapskate since its a acer 5315-2326.

 

Could be socket M as well( attachment), can you get the current cpu's number using HW monitor and post or the name from CPUID.

 

I was thinking about this CPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116474

Just need to be 100% sure it will work with the wifes laptop.

Here are 2 screen of the CPU-Z showes for motherboard and CPU.

 

Anyone????

Can it be that I have socket M? I read that all 5315 have socket P... And also my Celeron CPU SLA2G seems to be socket P according to CPU-World

 

All ICL50 motherboards are Socket P.

Your T5450 is probably broken, or perhaps an unsupported ES.

 

I'm not sure that will work because of the FSB, your current cpu has 533MHz and the intended one has 1066MHz, you can see in this thread people have gone up to 800FSB cpus but I couldn't find anyone gone up to 1066MHz.
Why not try a T8300 which has 2.4GHz and 800FSB from ebay for around $40 and see, this is only a suggestion and wait for someone else chime in, I'll try my best to find more info for you.

 

I didnt even notice that FSB on that one, but yes I havnt seen a YES to 1066 FSB and more then likly had the wrong link. Since most of the ones I have been rsearching have either been 667 or 800 FSB.

Mainly its the socket type that the motherboard for the laptop has. I have read its Socket M, Socket P and CPU-Z is showing 479 so this is where its stumping me.

Edit: added pic of the socket mPGA478MN

 

These pages from wiki will assist you to compare the CPUs, you have to be aware of the Package Type as well, for example, T8300 comes in two Package type, they are FCBGA and FCPPGA and you need FCPPGA type as these have pins, the FCBGAs are soldering types.
Mainly look for the Speck numbers( M550- SLAJ9 or SLA2E). with the numbers you'll get all the info of those cpus from Intel.

List of Intel Celeron microprocessors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of Intel Core 2 microprocessors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Thanks .

All the ones on ebay are showing:

Packaging Type: 478-pin Micro FCPGA, but on the images on the listings it shows the part number that starts with "FF" and not "EC".

If the FCPGA are the soldered type how are they pulling them outta dead laptops?

 

FCBGA are soldered ones, BGA stands for Ball Grid Array, they use some heat gun I think to remove them. You don't need to pay attention to "FF" or "EC" and as long as it's a Socket P and the packaging type is 478-pin Micro FCPGA, you are good to go.

 

Ok, I will assume that the cpu is broken... I have found this one on ebay: T5850 Will it work?

Is the T7100 more recomendable than this T5850?

Thanks

 

T5850 has 667MHZ FSB& 2.16GHz, T7100 has 800MHz & 1.8GHz
You won't see any significant difference between these two for normal work, I would go for the cheaper one but both seems to be similar price range and also T5850 seems newer as release date was 2008 against T7100's 2007. I would go for T5850.

 

Since my battery has reached the end of its life, I figured besides getting a new battery (hunting down the extended 8-cell 4800mah acer offers for the 5315), it's time for upgrading round 2. And since we just upgraded the router in my house to an N router, I'm thinking of putting an N card into my 5315.

Anyone else done this? Will there be a noticeable increase in wireless speeds with the newer card (combined with the new router)? Card recommendations (I know there are wireless/bluetooth combo cards but I've never had a need for BT so really looking for just wireless card recs unless you have a combo card that you absolutely love that's priced well)? Do the N cards use 2 antennas like the stock 5315 card or 3 (if so, do I need to add an additional antenna somehow)? Sorry if some of the questions are a bit silly but I know basically nothing about wireless.

Haven't tried upgrading to 3 or 4 GB RAM yet so it's still a maybe. Would love 4gb but that seems to not work for most people so will most likely try 3gb. This round of upgrading will get me a new keyboard and internal speakers (left ones dead, right is starting to crackle). Would love to increase USB transfer speeds as that's the only annoying thing (don't know if its the device itself to blame or the laptop USB)

And updates on upgrades: LOVE the T8300 processor; speed increase from the stock CPU is incredible. The 500gb WD scorpio black is performing well; set up 2 partitions (one for OS and programs other for data) since I re-install windows every 6 months to a year it's nice to just format that one partition instead of everything. Webcam still working wonderfully (probably one of my favorite parts of my upgrading).

 

Most Wi-Fi card use two antennas. Only three stream ones use three antennas but you'd need a special router to work with those (also capable of three stream transition).

You would notice an increased speed in LAN transfers with "n" card and router. As for the net- that depends- 802.11g is capable of up to ~20mbps real-life transfers. If your connection speed is close to 20mbps or exceeds this speed you are going to see an improvement but if your connection is- say 8mbps- you won't notice a difference.

 

Not quite true; N also has a wider range than G. In fact, if you have ~8mbps net throughput with G, then using a 3-stream client and AP (beware, most 3-antenna devices are really just 2-stream, with the 3rd antenna used only for diversity, or in some egregious cases, decoration), and a "wide" (40MHz) channel width, you will get up to 48mbps at the same distance. A 2-stream system (much easier to find) yields up to 32mbps.

 

It doesn't have a wider range (point 3). It has the same transmit power and uses the same frequency hence the only thing that affects range is an antenna and an amplifier which has nothing to to with the router/AP being 802.11g or 802.11n.

Although 802.11n does offer higher throughput at the same range compared to 802.11g (provided we're talking about LAN throughput as Internet throughput is usually limited by ISP not by wireless capability).

As for my 8mbps example it was about Internet speed not so with an Internet connection of 8mbps upgrading to 802.11n doesn't do a thing to OPs Internet speed.

 

Well, using a wider spread spectrum (40MHz bandwidth instead of 20MHz) and new modulation schemes also results in a range increase.

 

Wider spectrum only increases throughput otherwise changing channel width from 40MHz to 20MHz on an "n" router would limit the range.
Also it seems that 20MHz channels seem to do better under extremely poor signal conditions (again point taken from smallnetbuilder tests)

 

Just wanted to give a update.

After installing a Core 2 Dou T8100 and 2gb of memory the wife is happy and I saved some money. So with this fourms valuable information I was able to breathe some new life in a Acer 5315, and we both thank you.

 

has anyone ran into any issue with the higher end processors with over 800+ FSB and 6+ mb of L2 Cache? I am a little concerned with the fact that those who slap on these later processors are stretching the limits of what the motherboard was designed for.

also, anyone with experience buying used cpuc's off ebay?

 

Up to T9500 should be fine. Probably X9000 too.

800MHz is the highest FSB this board can handle. There is a HW mod to run 1066MHz CPUs downclocked to 800MHz, but you won't be able to run them at full clock (except maybe using SetFSB after applying a TME mod).

When buying from eBay, watch out for ES CPUs - some eBayers may try to pass off early ESs as retail units.

 

So essentially the higher cache in l2 and fsb gets down clocked?

-Blame my typos on my fat fingers & Droid Charge

 

Only 1066MHz ones will downclock, 800MHz Penryns are drop-in.

Also, the L2 cache will not be downgraded to Merom levels.

 

So in that case, does these motherboards just take in the higher l2 cache without issue? i would assume there would be some hardware limitation as the mobo specs at the time couldnt even had dream of cache levels that high

-Blame my typos on my fat fingers & Droid Charge

 

Yes, in fact, no board support is needed at all for the L2 cache. Remember, it's all inside the CPU.

 

just lettin you no the intel core 2 duo T7300 works fine in acer aspire 5315 as i am useing it but you need v1.42 bios as the newer bios wont reconise both cores

 

Did you try the Black Edition BIOS? Presumably "CMP support", hidden in the official BIOS releases, is erroneously disabled by default on your machine. However, Black Edition should allow enabling it.

 

Where do you get hold of this 'Black Edition' ??.

 

First of all thank you BigO and all the others that have made this great thread. Armed with this wealth of information I have the parts on the way to upgrade my 5315. I would also like to get opinions on my planed upgrade and the method I was going to use.

My 5315 is currently running vista 64-bit, 2 x 1GB of PC5300 RAM, and has bios v1.33. I have ordered a T7500 C2D, a 80GB Intel 320 SSD, and planning a clean install of W7. Haven't decided on 32 or 64-bit W7 though.

Now I was going to install the T7500 first to verify it's not DOA and that it will work with current bios then flash bios if necessary. Then install the SSD and load W7.

If I need/decide to flash the bios I was going to boot into safe mode and flash from there just to be on the "safe" side (I'm a little paranoid of flashing bios especially from within windows). Does anyone think I should update the bios first? I am thinking even if it all runs fine latest bios should better support the T7500 and SSD. If flash to latest bios the only one I found on Acer's site is v1.45. In the event I need to revert bios could someone point me to a reliable place to find the older versions?

That's all I can think of for now. Thanks again and if anyone notices a problem (Other than my paranoia. lol) or has suggestions please point it out.

 

Installed the Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz 3MB 800MHz T8300 on my acer 5315 works great, I m waiting for the 2gig ram to arrive..I am also using the stock bios 1.45 with no issues in terms of the bios recognising the Duo.

 

Didn't need to worry about the 'Black Edition' bios - just dropped a T8300 in and away she went - Win 7 Ultimate with 3GB ram - Beauty..

 

David,
Would you mind sharing what type or configuration of memory you are using?
I know its 2gig and 1 gig but is 533mhz or 633. I want to order 2 and 1 but i want to know exactly what to order. If I look up acer 5315 they will send me the 533 wich is limited to to 533mhz and my new cpu goes up to 833. Thank you in advance.

 

I think that the missing-cores issue happens when upgrading from a single-core Celeron to a T7xxx or higher CPU. "CMP Support" fails to be toggled on.

The fix is likely a BIOS reset / "Load Setup defaults".

 

I actually now have 5 of these 5315's but have only upgraded the one so far.

The description (taken from my Ebay History) is as follows:

2GB ELPIDA DDR2 800/667/533-2 GB PC2-6400 PC SODIMM RAM

I have another purchase earlier with the description:

2GB ELPIDA DDR2 800/667-2 GB PC2-6400 PC SODIMM RAM DDR

I believe the 6400 will downclock as the 5315 has it's own maximum of 533.

best of luck..

dave

 

Joe

The 5315 can handle socket P cpus with a fsb up to 800Mhz.

It can handle memory of either 533 or 667Mhz.

If you put in dissimilar memory, it will clock the memory at the lower speed.

You should be able to use 800Mhz memory too, but it will be downclocked to a speed the 965 chipset can support. (ie 667 or 533Mhz)

Good luck

 

Ok Thank you Quilty997 and David for the info.

 

Anyone have any problems with the ethernet port on their 5315s? About 3 days ago, the cable no longer clicks into place and is constantly falling out. I know it's not the cable because it still has its little tab and I've also tried 3 other cables (including one brand new one I bought to test this) so that means somethings up with the port. It still connects perfectly fine via the port but the loose connection is annoying (especially since we don't have wireless at university and I need to be hard-wired -_-).

Any fix-it ideas or should I just learn to deal with it while at school (or get a USB to ethernet adapter).

 

From tech stuff

Can somebody tell me how do I know if the processor's both cores are working properly? I have the t8300 it is faster but when antivirus runs on the back ground or have 3 programs open it slows down tremendously.

 

Are you still using only 1 gig of ram? If so I bet that is to blame. On Vista & W7 you can use task manager to moniter cpu and ram usage. Just click performance tab it should have two graphs for cpu (one for each core) and one for ram. If your using Xp I can't remember what all it displays.

 

ok I check task manager and it shows 812 memory and 52% cpu usage
I am using 1gig and should receive the 2gig today will report back the results. Thanks.

 

Ok I received and installed the new two Gig and runs way better and with the t8300 it flys i was hoping to get 667 mhz or better but they shipped the 533mhz instead none the less it is like a new laptop now.

 

Can somebody tell me if there would be a major benefit if install Vista 64? versus 32 i currently have 32.

 

NetRolller,
I have just receintly acquired a 5315 from a friend and been researching this site for upgrade ideas as well as following your progress on the newly titled "BLACK EDITION 1.45" BIOS, and have several questions.

A. Does this version have:
1. SLICE 2.1? ... or ... SLP for XP?
2. VT support?
3. Hackintosh compatability?
4. CPU voltage reduction controls?

B. Does it require any special command line switches to flash?

C. Does it run right straight after flashing, or do some settings need changing right away? What are the usual settings needing changes?

D. Do you have any advice on how the newly revealed settings are used/optimized?

E. Is this significantly different than version "H" or the next version from "dummy"?

F. Does "dummys'" version have SLICE 2.1?

I hope I'm not asking too much here. Maybe you have another thread that has all of these answers?

Thanks in advance
Byghtn

 

@byghtn3:
A.:
1. No discussion of warez on this forum.
2. Yes, VT support is exposed and enabled by default in Black Edition, if you have a CPU that supports it.
3. Discussion of running Apple™ Mac OS X™ on non-Apple™ hardware is strictly prohibited and will result in a ban.
4. No, as the reduced voltages are specific to Dummy's CPU (not just the model of it - even another CPU from the same manufacturing batch will have different tolerances).

B. Yes, to get the PLL fixes (CPU speed displaying e.g. as 2493 MHz instead of 2500), you need to update the PEI block as well as the main (DXE) block. The easiest way to do this is via Fn+Esc.

C. VT will be enabled right after installation; other features (like the EFI shell) need to be enabled in Setup.

D. A few hints:
-Be sure to set USB mode to "EFI USB" (default: "Legacy USB") to get a fully functional EFI shell.
-Disabling "IST Configuration" unlocks dual-IDA. Enable it when not using dual-IDA to get better battery performance.

E. Yes; Dummy's version does not have the MXM fixes (only relevant for 5720G and 7720G owners - 5315 and the non-G 5720/7720 has no MXM slot), the updated DSDT, the PLL spread spectrum fix, and most importantly, the EFI shell. Only his version has the downvolting mod, for reasons explained above.

F. No discussion of warez on this forum.