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    How to allow turbo mode on i5 540M?

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by TakedaYabu, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. TakedaYabu

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    Hello everyone,

    I have a 2010 Acer Aspire 5742ZG (p614g32mnkk) with original BIOS v1.01 running on Windows10 for 2 years now (original was Windows7 Home) and I have recently done the following hardware upgrades:

    from (original specs)...
    • HDD 320GB
    • 4GB DDR3 1066Mhz
    • Intel P6100 (2.00GHz - no turbo)
    to (all specs are brand new)...
    • 2.5" SSD 240GB
    • 8GB DDR3 1066Mhz
    • i5 540M (2.53GHz - 3.07Mhz)
    The problem is that after doing all of these upgrades and reinstalling windows, I tested the CPU with a game and I noticed it couldn't go further than the base speed of 2.53GHz... How to fix this and allow turbo?
     
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    TurboBoost does not work like you think - 3.07 GHz is only achievable if one core is under load. If both are you can't get past 2.53 GHz.
    With i5 540M being a dual core CPU, these days you will end up having both core under load in every game therefore TurboBoost will not activate.
     
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    Oh... amazing.

    Thank you for the explanation! But... in what situations would only 1 core be under load and the other not? I'm confused =P
     
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    Some applications still are single core/thread for compatibility reasons (OpenSSL being one of them) although admittedly that does not happen a lot these days. Vast majority of applications are multi-core, however remember that Core i5 540M launched at the beginning of 2010 and that might have made more sense then (I don't remember to be honest).
     
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    So... nowadays modern quad-cores, hexa-cores and octa-cores etc... with turbo, have their turbo appliable for all cores, right? Or just half of the existing cores?
     
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    So if I buy a Quad-Core or Octa-Core CPU, the turbo is will only work on a single core while the rest works at their base speed?

    Sorry I got myself confused...
     
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    Maximum TurboBoost frequency that you see in specs always applies to a single core.

    Here is how it words for a quad-core Core i7 7700HQ (chosen as an example because I own one ;))

    Base frequency - 2,8 GHz
    TutboBoost frequency for 3 and 4 cores under load - 3,4 GHz
    TurboBoost frequency for 2 cores under load - 3,6 GHZ
    TurboBoost frequency for 1 core under load - 3,8 GHz

    That will differ somewhat for different CPUs but the principle holds true - max TurboBoost is for a single core under load, the more cores are under load the less the boost is.

    EDIT: Also there is a TurboBoost frequency for both cores under load for your CPU but it'ss not exactly spectacular - 2,8 GHz up from 2,533 GHz base.

    To answer your original question - you don't have to enable TurboBoost - it's there and works without the need for drivers. It's like SpeedStep - hard-coded into the CPU.
     
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    Thank you very much for your explanation!

    I fully understand now.

    So... considering that the game I was playing actually made the CPU reach the maximum peak of speed (according to base speed), and yet didn't activate the turbo boost dedicated of the Dual-Core, that means my motherboard might not support that turbo boost from Intel???

    What do you think?
     
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    No, I don't think that's the case. TurboBoost is activated as long as CPU temperature is within a certain thermal envelope. If it's outside it TurboBoost won't be active. I did some testing on my Aspire 5740G and Core i5 430M in 2010 but I don't remember the exact temperature.
    Sometimes TurboBoost was there for a while and then in time would fade away as temperature gradually rose.

    If the CPU is supported by BIOS, TurboBoost is as well - there is nothing you can change or tweak about it.
     
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    I see, thank you!