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    Intel VT Enabled?

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by andyasselin, Jan 8, 2007.

  1. andyasselin

    andyasselin Notebook Deity

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    Hello I was just wound how many people wound like see intel vt enable bios for they laptops?

    Also what company are released them and winch arn,nt?

    Acer says no bios update for to enable disable vt

    dell has some ??

    hp has options and some bios updates
     
  2. simmerz

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    This is something I've come across today. I use VMWare on a regular basis and it would be somewhat handy to be able to use the VT tech that is built into my Core 2 Duo (Acer Travelmate 8215 wlmi).

    There is no setting in the BIOS, despite it being a feature turned on by default at intel. It is a conscious decision on the part of laptop makers to turn it off, rather than absent mindedness.

    Tom
     
  3. f4ding

    f4ding Laptop Owner

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    I think it is for good reasons. I have read somewhere that the build in VT could be a security hazard if not used properly. Something about hackers can run your machine from remote by creating and installing VT on your machine. I don't remember much, but I saw a writing by Mr. Demerjian from The Inquirer about this...not to say he knows a lot, but he's pretty computer savvy.

    I'm not saying VT is a bad technology, just that maybe the reason the manufacturers are not enabling it by default is justifiable. Although they can make another BIOS with VT enable for the experts to take advantage of the tech.
     
  4. andyasselin

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    Yes i can understand that can be possable risk but i think give the option in bios to disable or enable limnt amount of risk to people who want to use the feature


    yes it seem acer case they not will give us new bios where other company such hp and dell seem to be step up and give people who want it via bios update
     
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    andyasselin is right. I read on the hp forums specifically one very long and drawn out case of HP listening to its customers. They initially didn't want to continue down that line, but with enough heat kept on, it was developed and tested.

    A point to note is that AMD doesn't offer any method of disabling their VT tech, and given that Intel send the chips out VT-enabled, it must surely mean that Intel are happy to say they are confident in its use.

    I think it would be prudent for Acer and others to take note - VT is one of the key developments recently, and for developers not to have access to it when using laptops (desktop machines seem to have become all but defunct these days) is more ridiculous than sublime.

    Tom
     
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    f4ding, I just read the post by Charlie Demerjian. Post 4 of 4 is here with links back to parts 1 to 3.

    It actually talks about VT being the proponent of security - one that together with leGrande Technology (LT), could entirely secure machines (he says a moot point, theoretically, given that Microsoft promised to completely secure their OS within 2 years of roughly when Demerjian posted that article, *scoff*.

    From what he has written, there is no compelling reason to disable VT in laptops, any more so than there would be to disable it in desktop machines. As chip technology has typically been released to the desktop (synonym for laptop these days) world some 9-15 months in advance of the server world and primarily as a testbed, it would make sense for those people needing to use that particular function of their processors be allowed to test and evaluate and feed back to either manufacturer or Intel.

    Forgive me if I'm wrong on this - there just doesn't seem to be any business case for purposely disabling the technology.

    Tom
     
  7. andyasselin

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    Yes both the point is i think customers shound have options of enable do think they any way we cound get acer to change it mind on not let us enable it


    Acer Responsed when ask them on online question was this


    Dear Andy,

    Thank you for contacting Acer America. I apologize for the delay in responding to your email. The BIOS is provided as is; that I know of Acer does not plan to implement a BIOS update to offer this feature. I'm sorry I am unable to assist with this issue.


    Regards,
    Acer Online Support Team


    The bios is provides as what does this mean if they bug found in it or some error then need bios update they will not provide as with fix to bios be conside as is
     
  8. simmerz

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    That is certainly what it sounds like. Surely that isn't the case though?!
     
  9. andyasselin

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    well that reply i got on from online chat can,nt seem find email address for some one else i cound try as tech support about b uti bet they be even less help full i wound if acer has suggestion email address?
     
  10. f4ding

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    Yea I agree that VT could be useful, I guess Acer could have provide the BIOS upgrade for the experts like hp and dell are doing.

    And I'm not was sure whether it was you, andyasselin, but I've seen that post before with regard to Acer response about their BIOS. I think that is not a very good thing on Acer part. They could have done better, at least on the response part, if they really don't care about their customers.
     
  11. andyasselin

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    Maybe we shound try get them change they mind do you think cound get ahold of they bios dev?
     
  12. simmerz

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    I think that sounds like a sensible solution. do either of you know where any of the acer devs hang out online? Doesn't have to specifically be bios - a hand wedged in the door anywhere is a good starting point.
     
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    Yes i love know how get ahold them to make suggestions

    any one want try one they techs maybe but that problay usely

    any one want give it anythey try on ask them online? see if we get diffent response
     
  14. f4ding

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    No idea how. Too busy right now to check that out. I'm sure it's out there somewhere, google is our friend (though the NSA might be behind them).
     
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    Either of you guys had any luck tracing people? I haven't unfortunately.
     
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    Nope but i am very instrested in find out

    shound we just try to emails to them see if we can get response? answer
     
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    why not try and see what happens andy? Let us know the outcome and any transcripts.
     
  18. andyasselin

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    i wound if cound find any one better then tech support and customer services to talk to